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No, it's not accurate. They're not in a prison in Thailand, for God's sake. They're not in maximum security prisons...hell, the majority of them aren't even IN a prison, having served 30 days or so, or being sentenced to home incarceration.

As with all things Trump, you have to take what he says and then either completely discard it as fake, or tone down the exaggeration by a huge degree.
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Never pegged Trump for an "End Incarceration"/Criminal Justice Reform advocate.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:58 pm Never pegged Trump for an "End Incarceration"/Criminal Justice Reform advocate.
Here's fun trivia. How many of the 1/6 rioters were charged and/or convicted of terrorism? If you said zero, you'd be correct. Which is weird when you consider that Luigi Mangione was charged yesterday with terrorism (in addition to murder).

So once again, try to overthrow the peaceful transfer of power? Hang tight and you'll get a pardon. Shoot a CEO? That's terrorism.
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Smoove_B wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:21 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:58 pm Never pegged Trump for an "End Incarceration"/Criminal Justice Reform advocate.
Here's fun trivia. How many of the 1/6 rioters were charged and/or convicted of terrorism? If you said zero, you'd be correct. Which is weird when you consider that Luigi Mangione was charged yesterday with terrorism (in addition to murder).

So once again, try to overthrow the peaceful transfer of power? Hang tight and you'll get a pardon. Shoot a CEO? That's terrorism.
You cannot deny that dozens, perhaps hundreds, of CEOs were terrified.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:58 pm Never pegged Trump for an "End Incarceration"/Criminal Justice Reform advocate.
Yeah, but once the guards are allowed to use firehoses on the inmates, the prisons will be clean places that are probably too good for the enemies of the state that will be replacing the Jan 6 heroes. Prison reform, MAGA-style.
Smoove_B wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:21 pm Here's fun trivia. How many of the 1/6 rioters were charged and/or convicted of terrorism? If you said zero, you'd be correct. Which is weird when you consider that Luigi Mangione was charged yesterday with terrorism (in addition to murder).

So once again, try to overthrow the peaceful transfer of power? Hang tight and you'll get a pardon. Shoot a CEO? That's terrorism.
My understanding is that it makes it easier for them to expedite in his extradition to New York, along with ensuring a more severe sentence when he's convicted. Win-win.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:58 pm Never pegged Trump for an "End Incarceration"/Criminal Justice Reform advocate.
He's not. He's a "no punishment for people who support him" and a "maximum punishment for anyone who opposes him" guy.
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El Guapo wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:27 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:58 pm Never pegged Trump for an "End Incarceration"/Criminal Justice Reform advocate.
He's not. He's a "no punishment for people who support him" and a "maximum punishment for anyone who opposes him" guy.
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For some reason, I am full of Trumptopian ideas lately. The latest one offers anyone incarcerated and serving a 20+ year sentence the option of receiving an M16, all the ammo they can carry, and a parachute drop near the Ukrainian front lines. :twisted:
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Feels like this should be part of the revenge tour:
President-elect Donald Trump has once again suggested he wants to revert the name of North America’s tallest mountain — Alaska’s Denali — to Mount McKinley, wading into a sensitive and decades-old conflict about what the peak should be called.

Former President Barack Obama changed the official name to Denali in 2015 to reflect the traditions of Alaska Natives as well as the preference of many Alaska residents. The federal government in recent years has endeavored to change place-names considered disrespectful to Native people.

“Denali” is an Athabascan word meaning “the high one” or “the great one.” A prospector in 1896 dubbed the peak “Mount McKinley” after President William McKinley, who had never been to Alaska. That name was formally recognized by the U.S. government until Obama changed it over opposition from lawmakers in McKinley’s home state of Ohio.

Trump suggested in 2016 that he might undo Obama’s action, but he dropped that notion after Alaska’s senators objected. He raised it again during a rally in Phoenix on Sunday.
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:08 pm Feels like this should be part of the revenge tour:
President-elect Donald Trump has once again suggested he wants to revert the name of North America’s tallest mountain — Alaska’s Denali — to Mount McKinley, wading into a sensitive and decades-old conflict about what the peak should be called.

Former President Barack Obama changed the official name to Denali in 2015 to reflect the traditions of Alaska Natives as well as the preference of many Alaska residents. The federal government in recent years has endeavored to change place-names considered disrespectful to Native people.

“Denali” is an Athabascan word meaning “the high one” or “the great one.” A prospector in 1896 dubbed the peak “Mount McKinley” after President William McKinley, who had never been to Alaska. That name was formally recognized by the U.S. government until Obama changed it over opposition from lawmakers in McKinley’s home state of Ohio.

Trump suggested in 2016 that he might undo Obama’s action, but he dropped that notion after Alaska’s senators objected. He raised it again during a rally in Phoenix on Sunday.
What's especially dumb about this is Alaskans of all stripes call it Denali. It's only a culture war issue to conservatives outside of Alaska.
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I’m waiting for statues of Confederate generals and heroes to start showing up again in places where they were previously moved to museums in an effort to control the context of their existence.
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hepcat wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:08 pm I’m waiting for statues of Confederate generals and heroes to start showing up again in places where they were previously moved to museums in an effort to control the context of their existence.
And the reversion of military base names back to traitorous generals.
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Why would Trump waste time honoring other people? The statues will be of him, and the bases will be "Trump Courageous," "Trump Victorious," "Trump Large Hands," etc.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskCanada/s/5xwx9TalhB

Eric trump calling out ownership of Canada, Greenland and panama.
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Musk (not a real American) may be failing the MAGA purity test.

Musk, Ramaswamy Face MAGA Uproar After Saying Tech Firms Need Foreign Workers
Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, who will soon head President-elect Donald Trump’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, have repeatedly demonized undocumented immigrants. In recent days, though, Musk and Ramaswamy have both argued Big Tech firms desperately need foreign workers — generating controversy among the MAGA base.

Both Musk and Ramaswamy appeared to be expressing support for H-1B visas for high-skilled workers. These visas have often been criticized by the left and right for allowing companies to rely on cheaper foreign labor. Companies also maintain significant control over such workers; it’s difficult for them to switch jobs, and if they lose their jobs, they can be forced to leave the country.

Musk took to his social media site, X, on Wednesday to argue that Silicon Valley firms need foreign workers because there aren’t enough “super motivated” and “super talented engineers” in America. His statements quickly drew criticism from conservatives who support Trump’s draconian immigration policies.

“The number of people who are super talented engineers AND super motivated in the USA is far too low,” Musk wrote. “Think of this like a pro sports team: if you want your TEAM to win the championship, you need to recruit top talent wherever they may be. That enables the whole TEAM to win.”

The comments incensed Trump ally Laura Loomer, who wrote that Musk only “bought [his] way into MAGA 5 minutes ago.” She said Musk and his “Big Tech buddies” are trying to “infiltrate” the Trump White House despite opposing “MAGA immigration policy.” Loomer added: “You’re still not our President. The real President knows H1B visas are bad for America and the real President is from this country.” (Two of Trump’s three wives were born outside of the U.S., and his firms have used H1-B visas in the past.)

One X user wrote to Musk: “There are over 330 million people in America. Surely, there must be enough among them to build your ultimate team? Why would you deny real Americans that opportunity by bringing foreigners here?” Another user replied to him, before their account was suspended: “My son graduated with honors with electrical and computer engineering degrees in 2023. He can not get an interview, let alone a job.”
Of course, the real reason Musk loves H1-B work visas is that they give him indentured wage slaves that he can have deported if they don't toe the line for him.

It seems that Laura Loomer is going to war with him over it.

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UPDATE: *Free speech champion* Elon Musk is now punishing Loomer for speaking out against him by restricting her account — removing her blue check and limiting her post length 👇🏽

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lol - well Laura Loomer - did you really think it was about free speech?
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I think he's declaring war on showers? I am not sure. Also, there's no way we're going to make it four years. Zero chance.


Trump: "It's called rain. It comes down from heaven. And they want to do no water comes out of the shower. It goes drip drip drip ... you can have all the water you want. It makes no difference."
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Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:28 pm I think he's declaring war on showers? I am not sure. Also, there's no way we're going to make it four years. Zero chance.


Trump: "It's called rain. It comes down from heaven. And they want to do no water comes out of the shower. It goes drip drip drip ... you can have all the water you want. It makes no difference."
I think he's saying that allowable shower water volume should be based on local precipitation rates.
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Last time around it was low-flow toilets, wasn't it? He just doesn't believe in the liberal water conservation conspiracy.
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If he's suggesting that I should be able to get rid of the flow limiters on my showerhead and enjoying a torrential downpour within building code, that may be the one thing he's ever said that I can get behind.
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SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
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Disarm wrote:If he's suggesting that I should be able to get rid of the flow limiters on my showerhead and enjoying a torrential downpour within building code, that may be the one thing he's ever said that I can get behind.
We had a cool plumber who er....."addressed" that particular problem for us. :ninja:
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Last night, after reading about the stream of shit coming out Trump's mouth that day (not ruling out military force to take Greenland and Panama Canal, renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America) I posted the rare political diatribe on my facebook page. I was frustrated with the idiocy of this moron.

Unfortunately, someone who was a brother to a friend decided he'd suddenly start posting pro Trump memes on it.

So I just said screw it and unfriended him, blocked him and deleted all his posts. Then one of my virulent Trumper coworkers, who's facebook page is a daily diatribe against democrats and liberals, while extolling the god like virtues of the orange one, made a joke about he's going to the Gulf of America for his next vacation and can't wait.

This is the coworker who friended me ages ago before I realized what a fucking racist, misogynistic asshole he was on facebook (oddly enough, he's pretty affable in person). I've avoided replying to anything on any of his political posts, so I had hoped this was an unspoken rule at this point. But no, apparently not.

I deleted his post immediately and I'm now waiting for the butt hurt email from him. I should just unfriend him, but I don't want to stir up bad blood at work. At least more than what is now there as of last night.

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I have a zero tolerance rule for FB. You post one thing supporting that orange moron or his policies, and you immediately get unfriended, ignored, blocked, whatever I have to do to make sure I never see anything you post ever again. It has done wonders for my feed.
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I just feel like I'm being held hostage by this coworker and I need to avoid voicing any political opinions on my page. I don't want to cause trouble, but if I could unfriend him without him knowing about it (which would be impossible as he'd discover that the first time he tried to like a post I put up, or post a happy birthday wish, or something) I would...in a heartbeat. I'm looking forward to either his retiring or my retiring so I can do just that.

He's also helped me form some rules for facebook:

1) If a person has multiple facebook pages (more than two is a good start), they're creepy.

2) If they're male and over 75 percent of their facebook friends are young women without the same last name, they're creepy.

3) If they're a young woman and over 75 percent of their facebook friends are older men without the same last name, they're a scam.
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I believe you can adjust your settings to hide the person, and can adjust your post settings so that your posts aren't visible to them. So functionally unfriend them without actually unfriending them.
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El Guapo wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:13 pm I believe you can adjust your settings to hide the person, and can adjust your post settings so that your posts aren't visible to them. So functionally unfriend them without actually unfriending them.
Hmmm....methinks I'll be checking for those settings. I did "unfollow" them so that they're nasty effing political diatribes didn't show up on my feed. But I didn't know about ability to make my posts invisible to them. That sounds ideal.

edit: Okay, thanks to your suggestion, I went through the settings. Turns out you can actually prevent specific people from seeing specific posts, which is perfect. You just select the post's settings and then Edit Audience. Then you can select an option for "all friends except..." and then just choose who you want to block from seeing that post.
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Those settings are probably next for Zuck's axe.
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NOOOOOOOO! You can't take away bliss after I discover it!!
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I'm just joking, mostly. Seems like more of a Leon move.
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In this episode of Elections Have Consequences...

Meta axes diversity programmes joining US corporate rollback
Mark Zuckerberg's Meta is axing its diversity programmes, joining firms across corporate America that are rolling back initiatives criticised by conservatives, citing legal and political risks.

The move comes just days after the tech giant, owner of Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp, said it was ending a fact-checking programme criticised by President-elect Donald Trump and Republicans and elevated conservatives to key leadership positions.

In a memo to staff about the decision, which affects, hiring, supplier and training efforts, the company cited a "shifting legal and policy landscape".

Walmart and McDonalds are among the other companies to have made similar decisions regarding diversity efforts since Donald Trump won re-election.

In its memo to staff, which was first reported by Axios and confirmed by the BBC, Meta cited the Supreme Court ruling, while also noting that the term "DEI" had become "charged".

It said it would continue to look for diverse staff, but end its current approach, which looks to make selections from a pool of diverse candidates.

Major banks and investment groups, including Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase and BlackRock, have also pulled out of groups focused on risks from climate change.

The moves have accelerated a retreat that started two years ago, as Republicans ramped up attacks on firms such as BlackRock and Disney, accusing them of "woke" progressive activism and threatening political punishment.
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I look at my FB account once every few weeks, checking in to see if someone I know has posted news of a birth or a death or similar life events. I abandoned regular engagement on the platform six or seven years ago.

I would delete the account, but it's the only way some far-flung acquaintances have to reach me.

It's bad that so many people rely on it as a source of actual news.
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I have exactly one person left on Facebook that I don't have any other avenue of contact with. I check up on him and his family once every couple of weeks. Beyond that, I've walked completely away from Facebook.
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Revenge states against former Chairman of JCS Mikey:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... eth-trump/

Investigation to see if some misdeed can be found to reduce his retired rank, and security clearances and security detail taken away (and he has known threats against his life). This all just so petty.
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More "ominous" than "petty" IMO.
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