Immigration Policy

[TheMix]

I wonder if he'll back off it if he hears boos at rallies in the coming day? Or will he double down?

"Boos"? Surely you jest. His followers have always been in favor of it. And we have always been at war with Oceania...

[hepcat]

Why would he show favoritism to colleges he didn't attend?

[Grifman]

This type of language is dehumanizing and disgusting. He might as well be wearing a swastika:

[hepcat]

He asks people to talk to migrant victims. I'm assuming this illiterate asshole means victims of migrants. Otherwise, the grade school dropout is actually sympathizing with migrants.

[Alefroth]

It'd be much easier to find victims of non-migrants. Mayne they should talk to them.

[Jaymann]

Just got back from dropping off my son at the border in Chula Vista. I was looking for the rabid Venezuelan gangs with machetes in their teeth, but not a peep. Mildest border crisis ever.

[$iljanus]

Just got back from dropping off my son at the border in Chula Vista. I was looking for the rabid Venezuelan gangs with machetes in their teeth, but not a peep. Mildest border crisis ever.

They’re secretly infiltrating our society and hooking up with Pelosi and Schiff, becoming the enemy within.

[hepcat]

Just got back from dropping off my son at the border in Chula Vista.

That seems harsh. Can't you two talk it out? Come to an understanding so he doesn't have to leave the country?

[Jaymann]

Just got back from dropping off my son at the border in Chula Vista.

That seems harsh. Can't you two talk it out? Come to an understanding so he doesn't have to leave the country?

Ha ha. Seriously though, for some crazy reason he likes Mexico and is thinking of moving to Oaxaca.

[Alefroth]

Just got back from dropping off my son at the border in Chula Vista.

That seems harsh. Can't you two talk it out? Come to an understanding so he doesn't have to leave the country?

Ha ha. Seriously though, for some crazy reason he likes Mexico and is thinking of moving to Oaxaca.

Who could possibly like Mexico?

[Jaymann]

Just got back from dropping off my son at the border in Chula Vista.

That seems harsh. Can't you two talk it out? Come to an understanding so he doesn't have to leave the country?

Ha ha. Seriously though, for some crazy reason he likes Mexico and is thinking of moving to Oaxaca.

Who could possibly like Mexico?

I certainly don't. He can work from anywhere, so is looking for cheap rent that isn't on the other side of the world. Plus the senoritas like him.

[hepcat]

Is he moving in with tgb?

I'm assuming he's also pursuing the governor of tgb's region? Which, now that I write it, totally sounds like a euphemism.

[Grifman]

It’s about to get ugly:

[Smoove_B]

Yeah, that article is from before the election. File this under "They said they were gonna" - and people voted for it.

[Smoove_B]

Taking a page from the 1300s, I suppose:

President-elect Donald J. Trump is likely to justify his plans to seal off the border with Mexico by citing a public health emergency from immigrants bringing disease into the United States.

Now he just has to find one.

Mr. Trump last invoked public health restrictions, known as Title 42, in the early days of the pandemic in 2020, when the coronavirus was tearing across the globe. As he prepares to enter office again, Mr. Trump has no such public health disaster to point to.

Still, his advisers have spent recent months trying to find the right disease to build their case, according to four people familiar with the discussions. They have looked at tuberculosis and other respiratory diseases as options and have asked allies inside the Border Patrol for examples of illnesses that are being detected among migrants.

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Title 42, which is part of the Public Service Act of 1944, grants power to health authorities to block people from entering the United States when it is necessary to avert a “serious danger” posed by the presence of a communicable disease in foreign countries.

Mr. Miller has long considered Title 42 a key tool for his goal of shuttering the border to migration. He has essentially been on a yearslong quest to find enough examples of diseases among migrants to justify the use of the law.

Remember kids - public health is bad. Unless you can use it justify closing your borders.

Additionally:

When Mr. Biden came into office, he initially kept the public health rule in place at the border, even when C.D.C. officials told his top aides there was no clear public health rationale for keeping the border shut to asylum seekers. Both the Biden and Trump administrations argued the rule was needed to prevent the spread of diseases in detention facilities at the border. But Mr. Biden’s top White House aides were privately concerned that lifting the rule would lead to a surge in migration.

During his second stint in the White House, Mr. Trump’s team will focus on avoiding such pushback. He is intent on installing loyalists throughout his administration who are unlikely to try to stop his more aggressive proposals.

I understand now why the elves felt the desire to sail West; I'm feeling my time here in our society is fading and if I don't leave soon I'll be doomed to fade into becoming a wraith.

[Grifman]

And so it will begin:

[LordMortis]

Demonstrating the punishment of immigrants by going to one of the bluest cities in the US and deporting from there. Shouldn't they be doing it in FL and TX and along the Gulf Coast first and then working their way out through the red states? I mean that'll learn the blue states for voting for against The Wall, right? Oh wait,

[Unagi]

And so it will begin:

I still don't believe this will be a logistical possibility. If they 'try it' - I will be all


Of course, hit Chicago in the middle of winter and deport the "illegal" Mexicans living here - and you certainly won't impact cheap labor in Texas this spring or harvests across the US.

[LordMortis]

Of course, hit Chicago in the middle of winter and deport the "illegal" Mexicans living here - and you certainly won't impact cheap labor in Texas this spring or harvests across the US.

^^^
This. And completely normal unrelated to changes in climate weather destruction rebuilds in the SE and poultry industry labor and restaurants and "black jobs" in the south and...

[LawBeefaroni]

From what I understand they have a list of 300 names of convicted felons. Not all of them even live in Chicago. They're bringing in 100-200 federal agents/officers to effect the arrest of whoever they can find. Despite the headlines, I'm not expecting much to happen. Expecially when it's 2°f before windchill out there right now.

[Skinypupy]

From what I understand they have a list of 300 names of convicted felons. Not all of them even live in Chicago. They're bringing in 100-200 federal agents/officers to effect the arrest of whoever they can find. Despite the headlines, I'm not expecting much to happen. Expecially when it's 2°f before windchill out there right now.

My most sincere hope is that these "mass deportations" amount to rounding up a few hundred felons from across the country, followed by endless bleating in conservative news circles that "TRUMP KEEPS HIS PROMISE OF MASS DEPORTATIONS" so the mouth-breathers think they "won". Win win.

Just like they did with the wall when they built a mile, claimed victory, then just let it all fall down.

[hepcat]

They'll enact mass deportations everywhere but Mar-a-Lago. 2 dollar an hour labor is hard to come by, after all.

[Kraken]

Here are the relevant benchmarks:

In 2019, ICE removed more than 267,000 people — the highest annual total during the Trump administration. That pales in comparison to the high mark that occurred under President Barack Obama, who deported more than 400,000 people in one year. In the 2024 fiscal year, ICE removed more than 271,000 people, the highest total since the Obama administration.

So the #1 and #2 deporters to date are Obama and Biden, respectively. Where do you think trump's numbers will end up?

[hepcat]

Below those in reality, higher than those in his speeches.

[Smoove_B]

Next up - Afghan refugees:

Nearly 1,660 Afghans cleared by the U.S. government to resettle in the U.S., including family members of active duty U.S. military personnel, are having their flights canceled under President Donald Trump's order suspending U.S. refugee programs, a U.S. official and a leading refugee resettlement advocate said on Monday.

The group includes unaccompanied minors awaiting reunification with their families in the U.S. as well as Afghans at risk of Taliban retribution because they fought for the former U.S.-backed Afghan government, said Shawn VanDiver, head of the #AfghanEvac coalition of U.S. veterans and advocacy groups and the U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The U.S. decision also leaves in limbo thousands of other Afghans who have been approved for resettlement as refugees in the U.S. but have not yet been assigned flights from Afghanistan or from neighboring Pakistan, they said.

Trump made an immigration crackdown a major promise of his victorious 2024 election campaign, leaving the fate of U.S. refugee programs up in the air.

The White House and the State Department, which oversees U.S. refugee programs, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

[IceBear]

I feel like I've said this a million times already and I'm sure I'll say it a million times more, but Fucking Trump Sucks

[Isgrimnur]

Trump officials shut down CBP One app

Trump administration officials minutes after the new president took office on Monday shut down a mobile app for migrants to make appointments at the U.S.-Mexico border.

By shutting down the CBP One app, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officials essentially canceled all outstanding appointments made by migrants without visas who sought to enter the United States through legal ports of entry.

The app shutdown is part of a series of moves by the incoming administration to crack down on the border, even as migration has decreased significantly in the past six months.

[Smoove_B]

"We want you to come here legally!"
"No, not like that."

[Punisher]

I feel like I've said this a million times already and I'm sure I'll say it a million times more, but Fucking Trump Sucks

Wow. I didn't know you were that intimate with Trump.
Did Melania join or just watch?

[ImLawBoy]

On my way into my office in downtown Chicago this morning, I saw lots of signs saying "Do Not Open for ICE" in English and Spanish taped up on sign posts and windows.

[Unagi]

On my way into my office in downtown Chicago this morning, I saw lots of signs saying "Do Not Open for ICE" in English and Spanish taped up on sign posts and windows.

I don't understand what the request or what that message is saying though.

Are they asking businesses to not open their businesses (for fear of ICE crack-down), or like - what? or homes to not answer their doors? I don't understand the sentence structure: "Do Not Open for ICE"

[ImLawBoy]

It's messaging to people that they don't have to let ICE into their homes or into the private areas of their businesses (e.g., kitchens).

[Unagi]

It's messaging to people that they don't have to let ICE into their homes or into the private areas of their businesses (e.g., kitchens).

Okay, I get it, it's instructive advice.

Is it good advice? Can one legally refuse ICE entry? I assumed it was like a police visit. And for a business, it would be especially hard to 'close the door' on them (legally).

[Blackhawk]

It's messaging to people that they don't have to let ICE into their homes or into the private areas of their businesses (e.g., kitchens).

Okay, I get it, it's instructive advice.

Is it good advice? Can one legally refuse ICE entry? I assumed it was like a police visit. And for a business, it would be especially hard to 'close the door' on them (legally).

They don't have more rights than any other form of 'law enforcement.' If they want to come in, they need permission, or they need a warrant from a judge specific to your business/residence.

[Smoove_B]

Is it good advice? Can one legally refuse ICE entry? I assumed it was like a police visit. And for a business, it would be especially hard to 'close the door' on them (legally).

I've seen it noted that the ICE warrants are "administrative" in nature and do not allow agents to enter private spaces. As opposed to a true police warrant that's been signed by a judge and gives them the right to enter a home or business.

[ImLawBoy]

It's messaging to people that they don't have to let ICE into their homes or into the private areas of their businesses (e.g., kitchens).

Okay, I get it, it's instructive advice.

Is it good advice? Can one legally refuse ICE entry? I assumed it was like a police visit. And for a business, it would be especially hard to 'close the door' on them (legally).

They don't have more rights than any other form of 'law enforcement.' If they want to come in, they need permission, or they need a warrant from a judge specific to your business/residence.

Right. They'll have administrative warrants, but you don't need to comply with those. You only need to comply with a judicial warrant.

[Isgrimnur]

[Unagi]

It's messaging to people that they don't have to let ICE into their homes or into the private areas of their businesses (e.g., kitchens).

Okay, I get it, it's instructive advice.

Is it good advice? Can one legally refuse ICE entry? I assumed it was like a police visit. And for a business, it would be especially hard to 'close the door' on them (legally).

They don't have more rights than any other form of 'law enforcement.' If they want to come in, they need permission, or they need a warrant from a judge specific to your business/residence.

I assumed all these ICE raids had some form of warrant.

edit:
I didn't realize that there were two forms of warrants. One that could be acted on and the other was relying on being invited in. Makes sense.

[Isgrimnur]

Immigrants’ Rights Advocates Sue Trump Administration Over Birthright Citizenship Executive Order

Immigrants’ rights advocates today sued the Trump administration over its executive order that seeks to strip certain babies born in the United States of their U.S. citizenship.

The case was filed by the American Civil Liberties Union, ACLU of New Hampshire, ACLU of Maine, ACLU of Massachusetts, Asian Law Caucus, State Democracy Defenders Fund, and Legal Defense Fund on behalf of organizations with members whose babies born on U.S. soil will be denied citizenship under the order, including New Hampshire Indonesian Community Support, League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), and Make the Road New York. The lawsuit charges the Trump administration with flouting the Constitution’s dictates, congressional intent, and longstanding Supreme Court precedent.
...
In 1898, the U.S. Supreme Court confirmed in United States v. Wong Kim Ark that children born in the United States to immigrant parents were entitled to U.S. citizenship, and the principle has remained an undisturbed constitutional bedrock for over a century.

[El Guapo]

As always, it gets worse.