Canada 2015-25 and Beyond: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

[Isgrimnur]

German Chocolate Cake was actually just made by some guy named Samuel German.

German's Chocolate Cake. Samuel German created the baking chocolate.

[Unagi]

German Chocolate Cake was actually just made by some guy named Samuel German.

German's Chocolate Cake. Samuel German created the baking chocolate.

Yes, I went for brevity. But I appreciate the finer point!

[GreenGoo]

As a fyi, we don't call it Canadian bacon, we call bacon bacon and ham ham

"We" call it back bacon.

[IceBear]

Must be a west thing...growing up in Nfld, we called it ham...will have to ask my Ontario wife when she gets home. If there isn't a Canada anymore will it still be called Canadian bacon?

[Isgrimnur]

We still have ottomans.

[IceBear]

That's what I grew up calling them

[WYBaugh]

As a fyi, we don't call it Canadian bacon, we call bacon bacon and ham ham

"We" call it back bacon.

With my Canadian upbringing through SCTV, I understand that touque (tuque, toque?) go hand in hand with back bacon.

[Max Peck]

Also beer.

[WYBaugh]

Also beer.

Dammit...how could I forget that!

[Unagi]

We still have ottomans.

,Peking Duck, and Jarlsberg Cheese.

[Isgrimnur]

Jarlsberg Cheese.

GRIFFENFELD!

[hepcat]

Also beer.

Dammit...how could I forget that!

From my experience, Canadian beer is probably best forgotten.

[Rumpy]

Yeah, in fact one thing Canada could do is demand that the U.S reinforce its northern borders to prevent guns and drugs coming into Canada, since that is the bigger issue. I've heard some our politicians talking about that possibility.

You say that as if any of this has anything to do with reality or rational logic.

Demanding that the USA secure it's northern border is more likely to result in the USA moving the border north, until it feels secure, than anything else.

Well yeah, not much logic there. But I'm just saying, he's demanding something, we should demand something in return.

And Hep, you just need to expand your horizons on beer. Plenty of good beer here. It's the mainstream stuff you need to avoid.

[Max Peck]

Also beer.

Dammit...how could I forget that!

From my experience, Canadian beer is probably best forgotten.

That's as insightful as someone trying Bud Light and writing off all American beer.

[hepcat]

Holy crap, you're hiding in a crawl space in my place monitoring my beer consumption!

AA is getting a lot more covert with sponsors these days.

[Isgrimnur]

GOINK GOINK GOINK GOINK

[Rumpy]

Seriously though, the thing about beer might have been true 20-30 years ago. It's really no longer the case. There are some excellent craft breweries all across Canada brewing some amazing stuff that sometimes even rival American ones.

[Alefroth]

Yeah, in fact one thing Canada could do is demand that the U.S reinforce its northern borders to prevent guns and drugs coming into Canada, since that is the bigger issue. I've heard some our politicians talking about that possibility.

Odds are you're also going to see an uptick in American refugees crossing your border and claiming asylum.

And for some marginalized groups it isn't that far-fetched.

[Rumpy]

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. There was a lot of talk about that the last time around too. I don't know that I've seen much of it happen, but this time around it's a definite possibility seeing as he's been much firmer about it.

But anyone would have to be prepared for our hot summers and harsh winters. Most don't realize just how wild of a pendulum it swings in. We have very humid summers (30C+) and very cold winters (-30C, -40C). It was just -29C/-14F last night.

[hepcat]

Seriously though, the thing about beer might have been true 20-30 years ago. It's really no longer the case. There are some excellent craft breweries all across Canada brewing some amazing stuff that sometimes even rival American ones.

I will need you to come down here with about 30 or 40 samples for me to try. You may also bring poutine and some back bacon. But sweet jesus, don't you dare bring any flipper pie with you.

GOINK GOINK GOINK GOINK

Great. Someone dropped a fork into the Issie bot case again. The last time this happened, we got nothin' but weather reports from Paraguay in Esperanto for 3 months.

[Alefroth]

You may also bring poutine and some back bacon. But sweet jesus, don't you dare bring any flipper pie with you.

How do you feel about nun's farts?

[hepcat]

It's a HABIT I'm trying to break...

[Isgrimnur]

GOINK GOINK GOINK GOINK

Great. Someone dropped a fork into the Issie bot case again. The last time this happened, we got nothin' but weather reports from Paraguay in Esperanto for 3 months.

[hepcat]

[Rumpy]

I will need you to come down here with about 30 or 40 samples for me to try. You may also bring poutine and some back bacon. But sweet jesus, don't you dare bring any flipper pie with you.

Sounds like a great plan! In fact I was out your way for the eclipse last year. I was on the edge of Cleveland experiencing it from a condo rooftop. It was awesome

[hepcat]

I will need you to come down here with about 30 or 40 samples for me to try. You may also bring poutine and some back bacon. But sweet jesus, don't you dare bring any flipper pie with you.

Sounds like a great plan! In fact I was out your way for the eclipse last year. I was on the edge of Cleveland experiencing it from a condo rooftop. It was awesome

Wrong lake. I'm on Lake Superior.

I grew up near Lake Erie though. Well, 90 minutes away.

[Rumpy]

Close enough, just saying Closest I've been to either city.

[Punisher]

As a fyi, we don't call it Canadian bacon, we call bacon bacon and ham ham

Something to look forward to once we take over...
You'll finally have REAL bacon!!

[IceBear]

We already have that bacon so it won't be new. Paying for health care will be

[hepcat]

As an fyi, we don't call it Canadian bacon, we call bacon bacon and ham ham

Something to look forward to once we take over...
You'll finally have REAL bacon!!

Not we. It’s only the asshole Trumpers who want that. The rest of us are actual adults with an IQ higher than their shoe size.

[Punisher]

As an fyi, we don't call it Canadian bacon, we call bacon bacon and ham ham

Something to look forward to once we take over...
You'll finally have REAL bacon!!

Not we. It’s only the asshole Trumpers who want that. The rest of us are actual adults with an IQ higher than their shoe size.

Why are you against bringing REAL bacon to the artic tundra that is Canada?

[hepcat]

Have you ever had Danish bacon? If not, you’re missing out.

[IceBear]

So he again said the US doesn't need anything from Canada and that we should become a state to wipe out the trade deficient...which, if nothing is needed from us wouldn't exist would it? Our government needs to increase defense spending so that can be taken off his complaint list

[GreenGoo]

{do thing} so that can be taken off his complaint list

I can't even...

Max? Can you do this one?

[IceBear]

Well, we can't depend on the US for protection anymore and we need stronger borders for our own protection, so it's win-win. We all know it's BS complaints he's made up to slap the tariffs on us until we give up our sovereignty.

I have been a proponent of meeting the NATO spending and stronger borders well before now. If there's a chance that'll calm Trump down (not likely at all, but still) we should take it. Then when we meet his demands and he still slaps on the tariffs at least the Canadians saying we should become a 51st State will see it's not because we didn't try (sorry, read some X comments just before I posted and got me annoyed)

The bulk of his $200 billion trade deficient is what they consider their military protecting us.

[Max Peck]

{do thing} so that can be taken off his complaint list

I can't even...

Max? Can you do this one?

It's about Trump's standard attack on NATO -- he bitches that nobody spends enough on defense (which is true to an extent -- we're "committed" to spending 2% of our GDP on defense, but the last I saw we were still only at about 1%). Where Trump is wrong is that he frames it as we owe that money to the USA somehow.

[Rumpy]

Yeah, it technically doesn't make sense, because if the U.S didn't need anything, he wouldn't feel the need to take us over. So, it's a bluff meant to put us off balance for his bargaining. Somewhere down the line, I think we'll need to consider new trade partners at least temporarily, such as the ANZAC proposal.

And I think I've said this before, but theoretically, even if the the U.S could take us over, I'm not sure it it would know what to do with us.

[IceBear]

Yeah, it technically doesn't make sense, because if the U.S didn't need anything, he wouldn't feel the need to take us over. So, it's a bluff meant to put us off balance for his bargaining. Somewhere down the line, I think we'll need to consider new trade partners at least temporarily, such as the ANZAC proposal.

And I think I've said this before, but theoretically, even if the the U.S could take us over, I'm not sure it it would know what to do with us.

We just said at Davos that he want 5% GDP spending now.

Yes, that's how I used to rationally think about it, but the last 3 days have made me realize rationale thought isn't a consideration anymore

[Smoove_B]

Still half convinced all the yelling about the theoretical invasion of Canada is a way to distract from all the actual horrific things happening right now as a result of half the things he signed on Monday night. Classic Trump - of course the Canada stuff generates eyeballs and the average person has opinions on Canada (apparently). But eliminating workplace protections? Silencing public health? Pardoning violent criminals? Preparing ICE for action? Don't pay attention to those things at all - think about the logistics of somehow invading Canada.

I don't mean to sound dismissive or harsh - if I was living in Canada right now I'd likely be horrified by what is starting to unfold here as the administration's plans are apparently being realized.

But I'm not entirely convinced invading Canada is more important right now than punishing brown people and keeping trans women out of bathrooms.

[GreenGoo]

It's about Trump's standard attack on NATO -- he bitches that nobody spends enough on defense (which is true to an extent -- we're "committed" to spending 2% of our GDP on defense, but the last I saw we were still only at about 1%). Where Trump is wrong is that he frames it as we owe that money to the USA somehow.

I didn't mean explain it to me.

I meant explain why drumpf complains about this to Icebear, but more importantly, what it takes to get off his shit list. i.e. bribes and public fellatio.

Fixing the thing he's complaining about just means he moves to another line of attack. He does not care one wit about defense spending.

Never mind, I just did it