The Apprentice Season 2 - The Second Presidency of Donald Trump

[Punisher]

Can't remember where but saw an article where Musk is disputing this and saying that they don't actually have the money.

[Smoove_B]

Trump on Hannity a short while ago (I'm waiting for an article):

"FEMA is gonna be a whole big discussion very shortly, because I'd rather see the states takes care of their own problems."

Tell me you don't understand why FEMA was created without telling me you don't understand why FEMA was created. JFC a literal disaster is looming.

[Zarathud]

This is only because it is California in need rather than Florida.

[Max Peck]

Q: Should OO move our net presence to another provider/country to retain free communications? If so, how would we be able to continue to enable access to the US citizens?

We're already hosted in Canada. How much further afield did you have in mind?

[IceBear]

Given the similarities to the rise of the 3rd Reich and use being Austria in that example, it probably needs to be further away to be safe

[Max Peck]

Given the similarities to the rise of the 3rd Reich and use being Austria in that example, it probably needs to be further away to be safe

I generally use the Russia/Ukraine analogue. Trump relates to Putin more than he does to Hitler.

[naednek]

Last night, my brother did a search of US presidents in order. This was the result. He grabbed a screenshot.

It seems to be put back now.

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[LawBeefaroni]

The new training sessions and grant review will return…but we may not like it.

They will be run by the private sector wirh a pure profit motive. Rare disease? Not worth researching. Can't commercialize the cure? Not worth researching. Not my company? No grant.

[ImLawBoy]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-ex ... 5f2b834b9c

On Wednesday, President Donald Trump revoked a six-decade-old executive order designed to combat workplace discrimination by federal contractors, undoing a landmark labor standard that stretches back to the presidency of Lyndon Baines Johnson.

The rule Trump nuked, Executive Order 11246, forbade federal contractors from discriminating on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation or gender identity. It granted the Labor Department the power to enforce its provisions through a contracting standards office.

It seems clear that they're going to go after the Civil Rights Act and Americans with Disabilities Act. Welcome back to legal segregation.

I knew this was going to be bad, but it's worse than I anticipated.

[Holman]

DOJ has just frozen all cases currently worked by the Civil Rights division.

[El Guapo]

I am debating now whether a federal contractor could now say to an interviewee - "No I am not hiring you because you are black / Jewish / etc." without breaking the law. I think federal civil rights statutes still prohibit that, although presumably they would not have to worry (at least for now) about being sued by DOJ. Might still have to worry about the state attorney general depending upon the state.

[raydude]

So yesterday acting administrator Janet Petro sent an email to NASA employees and contractors notifying them that NASA is closing all agency DEIA offices and DEIA-related contracts. But the email contained this nugget:

"These programs divided Americans by race, wasted taxpayer dollars, and resulted in shameful discrimination."

Come to find out this clause is from the "template" provided by OPM: https://chcoc.gov/sites/default/files/O ... Orders.pdf

Ugh, even when I try to ignore the news I can't get away from Trump and his goons.

[Smoove_B]

They will be run by the private sector wirh a pure profit motive

I think that's the same plan for the VA - ~30% reduction in force and then start outsourcing services to the private sector. I'm guessing in private health care organizations that coincidentally have heavy investments from private donors and a smattering of people in Congress - similar to the private prison situation.

[raydude]

This is only because it is California in need rather than Florida.

We've got 4 more years and the Earth is still undergoing climate change. I'm sure at least one or more Republican states will be affected by a major disaster during his term.

[Isgrimnur]

Only four more months until hurricane season

[Max Peck]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-ex ... 5f2b834b9c

The rule Trump nuked, Executive Order 11246, forbade federal contractors from discriminating on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation or gender identity. It granted the Labor Department the power to enforce its provisions through a contracting standards office.

So yesterday acting administrator Janet Petro sent an email to NASA employees and contractors notifying them that NASA is closing all agency DEIA offices and DEIA-related contracts. But the email contained this nugget:

"These programs divided Americans by race, wasted taxpayer dollars, and resulted in shameful discrimination."

Clearly discrimination is only shameful when it means that mediocre white males are excluded from something.

[IceBear]

He spoke of annexing Canada again according to BBC report

[$iljanus]

The new training sessions and grant review will return…but we may not like it.

They will be run by the private sector wirh a pure profit motive. Rare disease? Not worth researching. Can't commercialize the cure? Not worth researching. Not my company? No grant.

There are many who advocate a “more balanced” review process involving the industry point of view…

[Skinypupy]

So yesterday acting administrator Janet Petro sent an email to NASA employees and contractors notifying them that NASA is closing all agency DEIA offices and DEIA-related contracts. But the email contained this nugget:

"These programs divided Americans by race, wasted taxpayer dollars, and resulted in shameful discrimination."

Come to find out this clause is from the "template" provided by OPM: https://chcoc.gov/sites/default/files/O ... Orders.pdf

Ugh, even when I try to ignore the news I can't get away from Trump and his goons.

Several of my clients have shared some of the internal communications with me. Most of them are following that OPM template pretty closely. The consistent refrain I've heard over the past two days is "to protect our people and our agency, we're doing everything we possibly can to stay of their retaliation radar".

I'm sure that fear keeping everyone in line will lead to much a more effective government workforce. /s

[IceBear]

"Good clean coal"

[Alefroth]

I am debating now whether a federal contractor could now say to an interviewee - "No I am not hiring you because you are black / Jewish / etc." without breaking the law. I think federal civil rights statutes still prohibit that, although presumably they would not have to worry (at least for now) about being sued by DOJ. Might still have to worry about the state attorney general depending upon the state.

Does that mean they can also say "No I am not hiring you because you are white"?

[Blackhawk]

I am debating now whether a federal contractor could now say to an interviewee - "No I am not hiring you because you are black / Jewish / etc." without breaking the law. I think federal civil rights statutes still prohibit that, although presumably they would not have to worry (at least for now) about being sued by DOJ. Might still have to worry about the state attorney general depending upon the state.

Does that mean they can also say "No I am not hiring you because you are white"?

Of course not. That would be discrimination.

[Carpet_pissr]

A responsible media would investigate why MAGA sees public-health science as a threat.

There are some that have suggested that this indeed a test for the media - how will they respond to what's just happened? Will they report on all the things these various agencies are responsible for - how they impact the lives of every American? Will they detail all the medical advancements that have come out of the NIH over the last 40+ years?

Will they connect the dots on how this is all tied directly to Project 2025 - that everything that is happening can be connected to bullet-point objectives that were communicated in the giant document?

Or will they downplay and ignore what's been done because it's not "sexy" enough to grab eyeballs?

They will do whatever is deemed by management and shareholders to be the most profitable. Full stop.

[Max Peck]

I am debating now whether a federal contractor could now say to an interviewee - "No I am not hiring you because you are black / Jewish / etc." without breaking the law. I think federal civil rights statutes still prohibit that, although presumably they would not have to worry (at least for now) about being sued by DOJ. Might still have to worry about the state attorney general depending upon the state.

Does that mean they can also say "No I am not hiring you because you are white"?

Of course not. That would be discrimination.

Technically it would be "reverse discrimination" which is now the only bad discrimination.

[LawBeefaroni]

Only four more months until hurricane season

So...paper towel shortage?

Spoiler:

[LawBeefaroni]

He spoke of annexing Canada again according to BBC report

Spoiler:

[Enough]

This is only because it is California in need rather than Florida.

We've got 4 more years and the Earth is still undergoing climate change. I'm sure at least one or more Republican states will be affected by a major disaster during his term.

It seems like we might already be sitting at 1.5 degrees of warming, so the fun/not fun at all stuff has begun. I think we will really start to see it on the next extreme El Nino that earth experiences, like I sort of hope I'm not here kind of bad. All of these cascading localized disasters are going to create an insurance disaster that will far precede the worst horrors of climate change so that by the time that stuff hits our econ will be in shatters and we will have much less elasticity to adjust. Shit got real and now we just put in place probably the single worse human in the single worse position on the planet to fight climate change.

[Enough]

Looking at uni admins around the country, it does not give me great confidence that leadership will not kowtow to the orange one.

Viktor Orban pacified Hungarian universities by tightening control over their funding. It went pretty smoothly. Trump is going the same way. We will see how many American academics will be ready to risk their careers in defense of #AcademicFreedom
.

NIH funding has a huge influence on universities and so it will be a test.

The crazy thing is I studied in Hungary on fellowship right when Orban's party was coming into power and let's just say they really flipped from the people I met when I was there. I even got to meet Fidesz folks like Orban himself in the early 90s. Back then they were raging idealists that would recoil in horror over the very same things they are doing now. It's wild to see how power apparently can corrupt one pretty thoroughly.

Another connection I have is one of my best friends in life turned out to be a maga talking head (Michael Shellenberger). When we were in high school he started an ACLU chapter and in college was a raging progressive. Now he is one of the main scribes of the twitter files for Elon, regularly appears on Fox, Rogan, etc. and even got a gig as Chair of Politics, Censorship, and Free Speech at the safe-space University of Austin that Bari Weiss has been grifting on. Seeing his descent hurts a lot. I was often in disagreement with him but very proud of him for his work when he was younger in working with Earth First in the redwoods and then later becoming a leading advocate for resuming nuclear energy. Now he comes to my state to help headline an anti-trans conference and as of late he's even gotten in on the UFO grift and has become something of a hero to the many ufo communities on reddit and elsewhere. Shit is so weird to see in person in one's life.

[Max Peck]

He spoke of annexing Canada again according to BBC report

If you're going to do it, do it right...

[Max Peck]

Did anyone have "Native Americans are not citizens" on their Trumpocalypse bingo card?

"Excluding Indians": Trump admin questions Native Americans' birthright citizenship in court

In the Trump administration’s arguments defending his order to suspend birthright citizenship, the Justice Department called into question the citizenship of Native Americans born in the United States, citing a 19th-century law that excluded Native Americans from birthright citizenship.

In a case on Trump's birthright citizenship executive order coming out of Washington, Justice Department attorneys quote the 14th Amendment, which reads that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside,” and hang their one of their arguments on the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

[Rumpy]

I kind of figured they'd go in that direction seeing as they've alienated pretty much everyone else. But I suspect there will be some hard pushback on this from indigenous groups, which to be honest, I'm surprised we haven't seen more of recently given his plan for Mt Denali. And yes, I'll keep calling it Denali.

[LawBeefaroni]

Did anyone have "Native Americans are not citizens" on their Trumpocalypse bingo card?

"Excluding Indians": Trump admin questions Native Americans' birthright citizenship in court

In the Trump administration’s arguments defending his order to suspend birthright citizenship, the Justice Department called into question the citizenship of Native Americans born in the United States, citing a 19th-century law that excluded Native Americans from birthright citizenship.

In a case on Trump's birthright citizenship executive order coming out of Washington, Justice Department attorneys quote the 14th Amendment, which reads that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside,” and hang their one of their arguments on the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

Well, we've clearly seen that Trump is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States either.

[Skinypupy]

So where, exactly, do they plan on deporting them to?

[geezer]

Looking at uni admins around the country, it does not give me great confidence that leadership will not kowtow to the orange one.

Viktor Orban pacified Hungarian universities by tightening control over their funding. It went pretty smoothly. Trump is going the same way. We will see how many American academics will be ready to risk their careers in defense of #AcademicFreedom
.

NIH funding has a huge influence on universities and so it will be a test.

The crazy thing is I studied in Hungary on fellowship right when Orban's party was coming into power and let's just say they really flipped from the people I met when I was there. I even got to meet Fidesz folks like Orban himself in the early 90s. Back then they were raging idealists that would recoil in horror over the very same things they are doing now. It's wild to see how power apparently can corrupt one pretty thoroughly.

Another connection I have is one of my best friends in life turned out to be a maga talking head (Michael Shellenberger). When we were in high school he started an ACLU chapter and in college was a raging progressive. Now he is one of the main scribes of the twitter files for Elon, regularly appears on Fox, Rogan, etc. and even got a gig as Chair of Politics, Censorship, and Free Speech at the safe-space University of Austin that Bari Weiss has been grifting on. Seeing his descent hurts a lot. I was often in disagreement with him but very proud of him for his work when he was younger in working with Earth First in the redwoods and then later becoming a leading advocate for resuming nuclear energy. Now he comes to my state to help headline an anti-trans conference and as of late he's even gotten in on the UFO grift and has become something of a hero to the many ufo communities on reddit and elsewhere. Shit is so weird to see in person in one's life.

Do you think he believes the bullshit or is he just a grifter?

[Punisher]

So where, exactly, do they plan on deporting them to?

Back to their country of origin obviously.

[Max Peck]

So where, exactly, do they plan on deporting them to?

They're "Western Indians" so one presumes they go to somewhere in the West Indies, probably Haiti given that there will already be a pipeline set up to deport Haitian refugees back where they came from.

[waitingtoconnect]

The left needs to decide if it’s worth fighting trump on one of the few areas of trumps policy that most Americans could well support giving him airspace to do his meme coins and other highly questionable stuff.

You think most Americans would support revoking birthright citizenship?

What I’m saying is it comes down to is it worth putting something like this as a priority in terms of fighting back or is it better to focus on the most unrealistic nut case ideas like annexing Canada.

[hepcat]

He's not annexing Canada. He's trolling with that one. There's zero chance that will happen. He just likes riling people up with outlandish shit like that because he's an immature asshole that thinks it makes him look like a strong leader. And because it throws people off the scent of the actual crimes he's going to commit domestically.

Sure, he'll try to buy Greenland and he'll try to persuade Panama to sell/give us the Canal. The former has been proposed by other politicians, so that's not new. The latter was something we gave up in 1979, having previously owned it. So both are shitty, but not out of the realm of shitty things he would do.

But annexing Canada? No. Focus on what he can and will do, not the smokescreen crap he throws up to enrage and then blind you to the real dangers he's capable of. Otherwise you're playing right into his hands.

[IceBear]

He wants to slap 25% tariffs on us (all the reasons he has been giving for it - border security, trade deficient) are bullshit. If they are fixed, he'll find another reason. Once he has us in economic ruin he's just hoping that we beg to become a state so we can get out of the recession/depression that he caused. So he's not annexing Canada, we are asking to be a state (I will seriously look at moving to Australia or somewhere far from this BS if that happens)

[Skinypupy]

Bill introduced to allow Trump to serve a third term

"OOOH OOOH LOOK AT ME! PLEASE TELL ME I DID GOOD! DID I SUFFICIENTLY KISS YOUR ASS SIR? YOU'RE TRULY THE BESTEST, GREATEST, BIGLIEST PRESIDENT THERE EVER WAS! ALL THOSE OTHERS WERE JUST POOPIE-HEADS COMPARD TO YOU DONALD! PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEEEE!" - Andy Ogles, probably