Blackhawk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 1:16 pm
The USA is deeply intertwined in the world. I think that a lot of the 'heads down' and silence is the world trying to figure out how to untangle themselves from us, to shield themselves from us, to isolate us. They're not ignoring Trump - they're working on plans to neutralize his influence and power outside of our borders.
If Trump actually crossed certain lines, the world would respond - especially in the case of NATO members.
Exactly, if they have their head down, it's not that they're ignoring him, but rather trying to figure out what the next step is, ie an action plan. Don't mistake their current silence for inaction. They've made plenty of noise backing Canada while harshly criticizing Trump's actions. This is why we have international laws. And supposedly Trump already violated laws by threatening Canada in the first place. You can be sure they would be watching Trump with a very critical eye in everything he is saying and doing. Doing things to his own Country is one thing... Doing it on a world stage is another.
If this is true then doesn't this make the point that international laws don't actually matter to him?
Unless I missed it, there are no consequences for this so it's defacto making it legal.
If murder is illegal but nobody ever gets prosecuted for it then having the law in the first place doesn't matter.
There are absolutely consequences if it goes beyond bluster. At best, economic sanctions that further isolate the US and cripple our economy by cutting off most foreign trade. At worst, World War 3 if NATO becomes involved on Canada's side against the US.
Both would be so devastating to all of the billionaires clustered around Trump that I can't imagine that he'll be 'allowed' to get past bluster. Before that happens, his one-percenter horde will either stop him quietly, oust him by pushing their influence in Congress, or arrange for him to have a nasty slip-and-fall. They aren't going to let Trump lose them billions.
Yep, this. And If you told me 10 years ago that World War 3 could be initiated by the U.S and that it would have involved Canada, I'd have told you it would be such an absurd scenario, but now... you have a President that has destabilized the status quo, and the fact that we've gotten where we are now without Canada doing anything to merit his ire, it would be considered an unprovoked attack if he were to make an actual move. It wouldn't be on his domestic soil anymore where he can manipulate the system, and that's important to note.
Now ironically enough, Trump's bluster seems to be having an opposite effect. I've been hearing reports of the Canadian economy doing better, as if he's given Canadians a kick in the pants and getting people to buy more from Canadian retailers.
waitingtoconnect wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:43 pm
IT can’t put out fires or run a domestic women’s violence shelter…
Huh? I don't...what's your point?
Edit: If I had phrased it as "I have seen management similarly incompetent in similar ways in IT", would that help?
Sorry I was agreeing with you. And was unclear.
IT folk think computers run the world but computers and IT can’t do physical tasks like fight a fire or do front line tasks like nursing at a Va hospital.
waitingtoconnect wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:43 pm
IT can’t put out fires or run a domestic women’s violence shelter…
Huh? I don't...what's your point?
Edit: If I had phrased it as "I have seen management similarly incompetent in similar ways in IT", would that help?
Sorry I was agreeing with you. And was unclear.
IT folk think computers run the world but computers and IT can’t do physical tasks like fight a fire or do front line tasks like nursing at a Va hospital.
To be fair, I wonder how effective those tasks would be without computers.
People who have been around longer might have it easier, but say the computers all go down at the VA or hospital, how many people would know how to handle physical charts? How fast could they switch? How much would get screwed up?
Right now, both go hand in hand.
Even for EMS/Fire. I wonder how many people could read a map if they needed to.
We have documented downtime procedures at our hospital, so in theory we could go computerless for several days if need be. The real problem is that once the downtime is over, all that data has to be reconciled back into digital form. So the longer the outage, the longer the reconciliation. And the current data isn't slowing down while you're trying to reconcile the backlog.
Hah, good point! I was thinking more in terms of technology being set back, not of the advantages. But then again, newer isn't always necessarily better And I'd assume it would be far harder to hide a stone tablet.
God damn he knows how to push my buttons. I really wish we'd win the game tonight, but given the difference in goal tending, that's not likely This one feels more trolling than some of his other ones though.
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I'll be calling our GREAT American Hockey Team this morning to spur them on towards victory tonight against Canada, which with FAR LOWER TAXES AND MUCH STRONGER SECURITY, will someday, maybe soon, become our cherished, and very important, Fifty First State. I will be speaking before the Governors tonight in D.C., and will sadly, therefore, be unable to attend. But we will all be watching, and if Governor Trudeau would like to join us, he would be most welcome. Good luck to everybody, and have a GREAT game tonight. So exciting!
PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP
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Feb 20, 2025 at 9:51 AM
I haven't heard or read anything drumpf has said directly in over 4 years. It's better that way. I managed to understand your post without actually reading the quoted material. I'm getting good at this.
Not really news I was expecting to see, but I totally get it:
A new poll suggests that more than a quarter of Canadians — 27 per cent — now see the United States as an “enemy” country, while another 30 per cent still say they consider the U.S. an ally.
Another 27 per cent of respondents to the Leger survey said they consider the United States to be a “neutral” country.
That said:
The poll was conducted between Feb. 14 and Feb. 17 and surveyed 1,500 Canadians and 1,000 Americans. Because it was conducted online, it can’t be assigned a margin of error.
IceBear wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:42 pm
God damn he knows how to push my buttons. I really wish we'd win the game tonight, but given the difference in goal tending, that's not likely This one feels more trolling than some of his other ones though.
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I'll be calling our GREAT American Hockey Team this morning to spur them on towards victory tonight against Canada, which with FAR LOWER TAXES AND MUCH STRONGER SECURITY, will someday, maybe soon, become our cherished, and very important, Fifty First State. I will be speaking before the Governors tonight in D.C., and will sadly, therefore, be unable to attend. But we will all be watching, and if Governor Trudeau would like to join us, he would be most welcome. Good luck to everybody, and have a GREAT game tonight. So exciting!
PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP
4.04k ReTruths 21.2k Likes
Feb 20, 2025 at 9:51 AM
Bah, it's really nothing more than his fantasy D&D campaign at this point. Pay it no mind.
In other news, I advance-voted-by-mail for the Ontario provincial election on Feb 27. Gotta do some democracy while we still can.
Provincially it looks like another 5 years of Ford, but my riding is likely a lock for the NDP. One sign of that is that the NDP candidate is the only one that has been out knocking on doors, here in my apartment building anyway. I'm kind of surprised that the Liberal candidate seems to be phoning it in, since historically the riding has sometimes gone to the Liberals. The NDP isn't running an incumbent (the current MPP is going to run in the next Federal election), so you'd think the Liberals would be working harder to attempt to pick up the seat. I'd be surprised if the Conservative candidate actually bothers campaigning at all since they never do well here. There's also a handful of fringe candidates whose names and parties I never even bothered to learn.
"What? What?What?" -- The 14th Doctor
It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
I was watching a Canadian stream (SportsNet) for the USA-Canada hockey game tonight, and I noticed the "Protect Ontario" political ad. Ford talking about "standing up" to adversaries with the image of Trump on the screen and the whole "51st state" comments.
I was also very happy to see Canada win the tournament (it wasn't all political, there were 3 Colorado Avalanche players on Team Canada and none on Team USA)
Yeah, our riding is currently NDP as well. I'm in Northern Ontario, and the NDP is generally a better fit for our region. The conservatives are a party that generally don't pay much attention to us aside from giving us a list of promises that are never met.
This time around, the one incumbent is NDP. Sadly, the two other candidates for both the Liberals and the Conservatives are largely unknown. So good luck there. The Conservative candidate looks like a nice enough guy that owns the oldest pizzeria in the city. But the frustrating thing is that the Conservative policy of not allowing candidates to speak for themselves has created a disconnect by not allowing these candidates to connect with their constituents despite the fact that they may have done a lot of good for their community.
Our Liberal candidate was chosen at the last minute, with 10 days to go. Nicely done there.
I think the Ford assumes a little too much that he'll win, and for those places where Conservatives haven't been too popular, their tactic will surely backfire.
And I'd assume it would be far harder to hide a stone tablet.
This one feels more trolling than some of his other ones though.
(it wasn't all political, there were 3 Colorado Avalanche players on Team Canada and none on Team USA)
