Yeah. I’ll take YK’s buffalo analogy and posit that the American people are now two herds of buffalo who behave the way YK suggests, except the obstacle each herd perceives now is the other herd. And it’s driven the buffalo herds insane to the point they’re now just stampeding over a cliff.Blackhawk wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:56 pmThis is the truth. We're too large of a nation - we have such diverse cultures from one place to another that we're often not compatible with ourselves. It's not easy to address, though, as the past 75 years has seen those regions overlapping and mixing such that it isn't so much 'regions' (with the exception of a few) as it is urban vs rural. You can't divide all of the large cities into one nation, and all of the rest into another.
As to awareness, it's not about awareness of what he's doing, it's an understanding of what it actually means. For example: Tariffs. They see them as making America stronger and bringing back jobs. What they mean is increased prices for us and a weaker economy. "They" are aware of the tariffs. They're about to understand what the mean.
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Well yeah, but you can’t help me. 

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The so-called "economic anxiety" that motivates voters sure is filled with lots of people that also hate LGBTQ+ folks, minorities and immigrants.YellowKing wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:54 pm In the end, it all comes down to personal finances. That's it. Literally nothing else matters. They can take all the polls in the world, the pundits can forecast everything, we can trot out 13 keys to the presidency, we can write entire books on it. And I think in the end it comes down to "personal finance = good continue else change path."
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That might have once been the case, but I think now finances covers for bigotry and fear.
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For sure. But in the end, that's not why Trump is in office. He's in office because voters were dissatisfied with the economy.Smoove_B wrote:The so-called "economic anxiety" that motivates voters sure is filled with lots of people that also hate LGBTQ+ folks, minorities and immigrants.
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And because our national media failed to explain why he was completely unfit for office in the first place, and then for the second.YellowKing wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 8:09 pmFor sure. But in the end, that's not why Trump is in office. He's in office because voters were dissatisfied with the economy.Smoove_B wrote:The so-called "economic anxiety" that motivates voters sure is filled with lots of people that also hate LGBTQ+ folks, minorities and immigrants.
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And because people are too stupid to realize that the President can influence the economy, but doesn't command it.
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The president can definitely ruin the economy.Blackhawk wrote:And because people are too stupid to realize that the President can influence the economy, but doesn't command it.

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And if they thought the economy was bad before he took Office, they're in for one heck of a rude awakening when the economy starts tanking and there's nobody to blame but himself. He can't pin this on Biden.
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Of course he can..Rumpy wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:26 pm And if they thought the economy was bad before he took Office, they're in for one heck of a rude awakening when the economy starts tanking and there's nobody to blame but himself. He can't pin this on Biden.
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That's what I was talking about when I said that people will have to learn what his actions mean before they start to wake up. All they have to go on now is what he claims. Soon they will understand what the actual impacts are of what he's doing.Rumpy wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:26 pm And if they thought the economy was bad before he took Office, they're in for one heck of a rude awakening when the economy starts tanking and there's nobody to blame but himself. He can't pin this on Biden.
In other words, they got their wish. Now they get to regret how the genie interpreted it.
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Lol, why not? Americans are profoundly stupid and tribal.
He wouldn’t really even have to try very hard, just say “it’s Biden’s fault” and half the voting populace will believe him without question.
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100% this.Skinypupy wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:12 pmLol, why not? Americans are profoundly stupid and tribal.
He wouldn’t really even have to try very hard, just say “it’s Biden’s fault” and half the voting populace will believe him without question.
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He can even use "It's Biden Fault" to get a third term.
Even now some of his supporters spread the idea that Biden trashed the economy that it'll take longer than 4 years for Trump to fix it.
Only one month in and they have already find excuse for his failure and going to give him more time.
Even now some of his supporters spread the idea that Biden trashed the economy that it'll take longer than 4 years for Trump to fix it.
Only one month in and they have already find excuse for his failure and going to give him more time.
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Yep, the bed is made...Blackhawk wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:04 pmThat's what I was talking about when I said that people will have to learn what his actions mean before they start to wake up. All they have to go on now is what he claims. Soon they will understand what the actual impacts are of what he's doing.Rumpy wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:26 pm And if they thought the economy was bad before he took Office, they're in for one heck of a rude awakening when the economy starts tanking and there's nobody to blame but himself. He can't pin this on Biden.
In other words, they got their wish. Now they get to regret how the genie interpreted it.
I was watching a video earlier this week, dunno if he voted for Trump. but he's a farmer and he had to recently buy new equipment and bought it all from China because buying American like John Deere was too expensive and he feels the quality has gone up from what it was only just a few years ago.
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Trump's base will believe anything Mump says, but Americans at large will always vote their pocketbooks. If the economy's booming four years from now and trump can still do a credible impression of being in command of his senses, then we'll say LOL OK when he refuses to leave at the end of his term. If the economy craters for the bottom 90%, he'll be toast. Assuming we're still staging elections.Victoria Raverna wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:57 pm He can even use "It's Biden Fault" to get a third term.
Even now some of his supporters spread the idea that Biden trashed the economy that it'll take longer than 4 years for Trump to fix it.
Only one month in and they have already find excuse for his failure and going to give him more time.
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The economy for the poor and for minorities is going to crash regardless.
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Guess which one is the new deputy director of the FBI:

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/24/dan-bo ... ctor-trump
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President Trump named bombastic MAGA podcast star Dan Bongino as deputy FBI director — a role that doesn't require Senate confirmation, and typically goes to a senior agent.
Why it matters: With loyalist Kash Patel confirmed as FBI director, the bureau can function effectively as Trump's private security force.
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The FBI Agents Association wanted an active-duty agent as deputy. So the pick could intensify "mistrust among the rank-and-file," the N.Y. Times reports.
Flashback: Talking in 2018 about the confirmation battle for Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, Bongino said: "My entire life right now is about owning the libs."
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I swear, if the "libs" didn't care about "things", these people wouldn't even know what they wanted to tear down.
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And they benefit every day from things the "dirty libs" fought for them to have.
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Sad day when someone has to resort to calling someone names. Really shows off their maturity level. Really sad that it's a guy at a top level government agency.
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Glad the Trump admin has abolished DEI hiring so they can fill positions with only the best and the whitest!
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And this is why I'm against the casual 'funny' name calling here, even if I despise the target.Rumpy wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:23 pm Sad day when someone has to resort to calling someone names. Really shows off their maturity level.
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The incoherent rage in Bongino's response is amazing. Mom's basement? Pr0n? Get a job? That's what he told you to do. "No you" is not the comeback he thinks it is. Does he know who he's talking to?
And, quite frankly, King's success and cultural impact would allow him to watch pr0n 24/7 for several lifetimes. Hell, watch as much pr0n as you want, King. You earned it.
These people are the fragilest of the fragile. Your government is now run by 4chan.
Hopefully the nuke button isn't within reach of any of them.
And, quite frankly, King's success and cultural impact would allow him to watch pr0n 24/7 for several lifetimes. Hell, watch as much pr0n as you want, King. You earned it.
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For anyone who has been blessedly ignorant of Dan Bongino until now, his whole brand is incoherent rage. He's part of the Two Minute Hate programming of right-wing media.
But he is absolutely and completely unfit for the FBI role. It's very clear that he and Kash Patel were picked not just to own the libs but to actually put Trump's political enemies in prison. He has been talking about the necessity of it for years.
But he is absolutely and completely unfit for the FBI role. It's very clear that he and Kash Patel were picked not just to own the libs but to actually put Trump's political enemies in prison. He has been talking about the necessity of it for years.
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This piece by The Atlantic helps me put intelligence around what has seemed so very random.
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Trump reveals 'surprise' and warns Blue states will disappear off mapGreenGoo wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:51 pm Hopefully the nuke button isn't within reach of any of them.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Yeah, that's a good policy. Because on the other end, you never know what the person may be going through and it really makes the person saying it sound small.
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Here in Canuckistan all I have to do is tick one box on the first page of my income tax return and I'm magically registered to vote for any elections (municipal, provincial or federal) that occur in the next year. If registering to vote in any mature democracy isn't that easy, then I'm pretty sure that there's a reason and that reason is shenanigans.Kraken wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:43 am Strategy aside, making it harder to vote isn't how you democracy. It's how you break democracy.
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Even when the person deserves mockery (Trump, for instance), it sounds so juvenile and petty that I think it weakens anything else said along with it.Rumpy wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:34 pmYeah, that's a good policy. Because on the other end, you never know what the person may be going through and it really makes the person saying it sound small.
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On social media, it's sometimes necessary to use nicknames or misspellings to avoid swarms of assholes and bots who search for people criticizing their heroes.
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Spoken like a character that's wearing a ring that makes him immune to Vicious Mockery.Blackhawk wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:48 pm Even when the person deserves mockery (Trump, for instance), it sounds so juvenile and petty that I think it weakens anything else said along with it.
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That's a bit different. Over here, I'd like to assume we're all mature enough not to devolve into name calling.Holman wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:51 pm On social media, it's sometimes necessary to use nicknames or misspellings to avoid swarms of assholes and bots who search for people criticizing their heroes.
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So Trump has said the tariffs are coming next week on Canada and Mexico while again criticizing the people that signed those deals.....uhm...wasn't that you?
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Yep, he sure did, in his first term. Kind of convenient that he's forgotten.
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I was kind of hoping the market meltdown on Friday would have given him pause. Guess not and will just accept the tariffs will happen. Hopefully he'll be willing to negotiate after a few months.
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Wasn't really a meltdown - more of a blip. It would need to be catastrophic - like what happened in 2008/9, but even then I'm guessing he'd figure out way to blame immigrants stealing our jobs or something absurd.IceBear wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:15 pm I was kind of hoping the market meltdown on Friday would have given him pause. Guess not and will just accept the tariffs will happen. Hopefully he'll be willing to negotiate after a few months.
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The US market is interesting. After two years very rapid rising in a forward looking environment, it has essentially been stagnant since the election.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPY/
OtOH, I don't doubt they're making it rain in private equity that you and I could never be a part of.
What the market did on Friday, however, was tick down going in to the weekend, when had been ticking up. Rightfully so, I don't think it trusts the after closing bell moves by the GOP Administration.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPY/
OtOH, I don't doubt they're making it rain in private equity that you and I could never be a part of.
What the market did on Friday, however, was tick down going in to the weekend, when had been ticking up. Rightfully so, I don't think it trusts the after closing bell moves by the GOP Administration.