Daylight Saving Time

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:50 pm

Unagi wrote:My two year old finally woke up at 7:00 am

Perhaps you should rethink the whole "Drinkin' with Daddy Night!" concept...

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:38 pm

What, no griping about the tonight's time change? You are slipping, overlords.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:48 pm

I'm doing good to know what day of the week it is.

WYBaugh · Post by **WYBaugh** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:08 pm

I hate the time changes due to work. We trade power every hour and no can decide on which hour to skip, etc. It's a programming nightmare.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:27 pm

Kraken wrote:What, no griping about the tonight's time change? You are slipping, overlords.

My girlfriend is thrilled -- our time difference moves from 14 hours to 13 hours, and that translates to 2 more "prime time" hours we can spend together in a virtual sense.

Sandpuppy · Post by **Sandpuppy** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:24 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:I'm doing good to know what day of the week it is.

BIG: You don't go out looking for a job dressed like that, do you? On a weekday?
DUDE: Is this a w... what day is this..?

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:44 pm

Well, crap! I didn't even realize it was happening.

Freezer-TPF- · Post by **Freezer-TPF-** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:17 pm

theohall wrote:Well, crap! I didn't even realize it was happening.

I just now remembered.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:21 pm

I thought it was tomorrow night. <shrug>

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:33 pm

This whole March/November crap is BS!

Is that better??

DD* · Post by DD* » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:54 pm

The whole DST thing is a colossal waste of time and effort.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:03 am

I'll save my outrage for 2 to 3 am.

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:30 am

tjg_marantz wrote:I'll save my outrage for 2 to 3 am.

Hah! wont do you any good, there is no 2 to 3 am !

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:22 am

Just got finished setting all the clocks...............except for the car's clocks.
Damn but knowing the correct time must be very important to us, as many clocks as we have.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:56 am

My phone lied to me. I picked it up and saw 9:15 and assumed it had already updated. It hadn't until I got to the main menu and it then showed 10:15.

wonderpug · Post by **wonderpug** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:09 am

I didn't get home from the PAX East concert until 2-3am Yesterday Time so I am officially a zombie today. I didn't even have any alcohol at the concert and I feel like I have a hangover.

mori · Post by **mori** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:52 pm

The older I get, the more I hate this. The sun was just beginning to rise when I drove to work, and it was dark by 7 PM. Now it will be dark for another hour while I am up, and still light halfway into the night.

wonderpug · Post by **wonderpug** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:13 pm

mori wrote:The older I get, the more I hate this. The sun was just beginning to rise when I drove to work, and it was dark by 7 PM. Now it will be dark for another hour while I am up, and still light halfway into the night.

What?! That's crazy talk. Switching sucks but DST is the better clock setting. Who cares if it's sunshine and butterflies when we wake up? Most of us aren't farmers anymore and we're just going to lock ourselves indoors and piss away the daytime anyhow. With DST we have more afternoon and evening sunlight to make for better leisure & recreation.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:22 pm

I adjusted pretty well today. My daughter did not - she's still running around at 9:00pm like it's not officially an hour past her bedtime.

Definitely going to take some time to get her back into the right routine.

I agree, however, that it's the better "setting," at least if you're a 40+ hour a week worker. I love being able to come home and potentially get a couple of hours of yard work done, go running, etc. instead of coming directly from my windowless office into a dark house.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:31 am

The news is reporting this morning that Apple sprung backwards and some iphones are now 2 hours off.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 2:54 am

Either we haven't done this since 2011 or you people suck at keywords, or we need to turn search over to AI. On Sat. night/Sun. morning we must all promote our clocks to not-depressed time, unless the government screws that up at the last minute. I speak for all seasonal depressives when I say that a lost hour of sleep is a small price to pay for the annual shedding of gloom.

I'm not going to reset my thermostats because this house has six (!) heating zones, heating season is winding down, and I don't want to reset them all again the next time heating season ramps up. My thermostats are going to be on permanent Daylight Wasting Time.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:33 am

Kraken wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 2:54 am Either we haven't done this since 2011 or you people suck at keywords, or we need to turn search over to AI. On Sat. night/Sun. morning we must all promote our clocks to not-depressed time, unless the government screws that up at the last minute. I speak for all seasonal depressives when I say that a lost hour of sleep is a small price to pay for the annual shedding of gloom.

I'm not going to reset my thermostats because this house has six (!) heating zones, heating season is winding down, and I don't want to reset them all again the next time heating season ramps up. My thermostats are going to be on permanent Daylight Wasting Time.

Thanks for the reminder, I sat my thermostat for 2 time settings (Wake and Sleep temps), but I always forget to change the clock when the time changes, and it may be a week or two of me thinking the temp seems off right now before I figure it out...

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:37 am

I get up and walk the house changing all of the clocks, which includes the thermostat. What I don't do, is go out to the car and then it stays on the wrong time until such a time as I am out running multiple errands and one of those errands is an appointment. Maybe this will serve as a reminder to change it today while I am out... Or not...

Madmarcus · Post by **Madmarcus** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:08 am

I never change the car clock. Instead I wait until it bothers my wife and she changes it.

Fardaza · Post by **Fardaza** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:24 am

I haven't read all the posts from yesteryear, but many experts say that standard time is what our body clocks do best in. Daylight savings time is the anomaly that is generally not good for us.

I'm one of those people that like it just the way it is.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:27 am

My cars all have GPS navigation and set their time by way of satellite signal.

Additionally, I wouldn't ever use my cars clock for 'making an apppointment on time' as I would likely be looking at my phone for the real time and once I get in the car - I can understand that its minutes are correct but that hour is 1 hour off.

I mean, it's not like I realize I need to leave for my doctor's appointment, then get into the car and think "Oh wait, it looks like I'm leaving an hour early... I'll just take the scenic route."

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:32 am

Fardaza wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:24 am I haven't read all the posts from yesteryear, but many experts say that standard time is what our body clocks do best in. Daylight savings time is the anomaly that is generally not good for us.

I'm one of those people that like it just the way it is.

I'm convinced I could get used to either. I just think the yanking it around is stupid.

I come from an IT background and I was responsible for a shit-ton of overnight jobs that all needed to complete on time. The "spring ahead" thing was just horrible - as it destroyed our tight schedule. We didn't have a spare hour.
Gaining an extra hour in the fall wasn't nearly as bad, but it also came with a crap ton of custom work and babysitting as we needed to be sure all of our extracts, transformations, and loads didn't have some components that may fire twice in one night.

Farmers could always just blow off the clock. They would just work with the sun or against it, etc. The digital IT world works best with a constant flow of time on the clock.

mori · Post by **mori** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:57 am

Lawmakers in Minnesota introduced a bill that will do away with Daylight Savings Time and make it standard time year round. It's what our bodies want and it does away with all the flakyness that goes on during clock changes. Those 19th century railroad barons knew what they were doing.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:57 am

Kraken wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 2:54 am I speak for all seasonal depressives when I say that a lost hour of sleep is a small price to pay for the annual shedding of gloom.

This doesn't make any sense to me - aren't you essentially retired? What is stopping you from just active when the sun is up? The changing of the clock indicates there is more daylight, but that's due to the orbit, not with the numbers on the clock.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 12:00 pm

stessier wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:57 am
Kraken wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 2:54 am I speak for all seasonal depressives when I say that a lost hour of sleep is a small price to pay for the annual shedding of gloom.
This doesn't make any sense to me - aren't you essentially retired? What is stopping you from just active when the sun is up? The changing of the clock indicates there is more daylight, but that's due to the orbit, not with the numbers on the clock.

Yeah, Kraken.

You no maka da sense.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:13 pm

Unagi wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 12:00 pm
stessier wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:57 am
Kraken wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 2:54 am I speak for all seasonal depressives when I say that a lost hour of sleep is a small price to pay for the annual shedding of gloom.
This doesn't make any sense to me - aren't you essentially retired? What is stopping you from just active when the sun is up? The changing of the clock indicates there is more daylight, but that's due to the orbit, not with the numbers on the clock.
Yeah, Kraken.

You no maka da sense.

Semi-retired. I typically work 15-20 hours a week during the winter, less during the summer. "Retire" to me will mean going permanently to summer hours.

I've stopped setting an alarm and I don't have curtains on my bedroom windows. I wake up when my bladder or my cat compels me. As it happens, though, changing the clocks coincides neatly with waxing and waning daylight, which is what really controls seasonal depression. Even if it's more correlation than causation, the time shift triggers me twice a year. (Being a night owl probably factors in, too; I typically go to bed at 2 a.m. and get up anywhere between 8 and 10, so I prefer my light later.)

Even though I favor DST, though, I wish we'd settle on one or the other and stick with it.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:17 pm

So back to normal then.

wonderpug · Post by **wonderpug** » Sun Mar 09, 2025 12:27 pm

Fardaza wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:24 ambut many experts say that standard time is what our body clocks do best in. Daylight savings time is the anomaly that is generally not good for us.

Eastern Standard Time in December
Boston sunrise: 7:07AM
Boston sunset: 4:12PM
Cincinnati sunrise: 7:50AM
Cincinnati sunset: 5:16PM

Eastern Daylight Time in December
Boston sunrise: 8:07AM
Boston sunset: 5:12PM
Cincinnati sunrise: 8:50AM
Cincinnati sunset: 6:16PM

So then experts say our bodies do best if we get sunlight from 8am to 5pm (in Cincinnati), but if you're in Boston then our bodies don't do as well if we get sunlight from 8am to 5pm.

My vote would be to pick one time or the other to be year round, but then have businesses and schools adapt their schedule to whatever makes more sense for their particular longitude. "Oh noes, the kids will be riding the school bus in the dark if we use <time zone setting inappropriate to our locality>!" Cool. Keep the clock setting and adjust your school start time.

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:59 pm

Kraken wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 2:54 am Either we haven't done this since 2011 or you people suck at keywords, or we need to turn search over to AI. On Sat. night/Sun. morning we must all promote our clocks to not-depressed time, unless the government screws that up at the last minute. I speak for all seasonal depressives when I say that a lost hour of sleep is a small price to pay for the annual shedding of gloom.

I'm not going to reset my thermostats because this house has six (!) heating zones, heating season is winding down, and I don't want to reset them all again the next time heating season ramps up. My thermostats are going to be on permanent Daylight Wasting Time.

there is in fact a thread for this

https://octopusoverlords.com/forum/view ... ?p=3028143

Drazzil · Post by **Drazzil** » Sun Mar 09, 2025 2:40 pm

Ohhhh... That was *today*

Hrdina · Post by **Hrdina** » Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:31 pm

Drazzil wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 2:40 pm Ohhhh... That was *today*

Yeah, I didn't realize it until I went to bed last night and my phone told me it was past 3 AM.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:02 pm

hitbyambulance wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:59 pm
Kraken wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 2:54 am Either we haven't done this since 2011 or you people suck at keywords, or we need to turn search over to AI. On Sat. night/Sun. morning we must all promote our clocks to not-depressed time, unless the government screws that up at the last minute. I speak for all seasonal depressives when I say that a lost hour of sleep is a small price to pay for the annual shedding of gloom.

I'm not going to reset my thermostats because this house has six (!) heating zones, heating season is winding down, and I don't want to reset them all again the next time heating season ramps up. My thermostats are going to be on permanent Daylight Wasting Time.
there is in fact a thread for this

https://octopusoverlords.com/forum/view ... ?p=3028143

Cute title didn't come up in my keyword search. It rejected "time" as too common, so I used "daylight".

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:20 pm

Well crap, I just noticed it with this thread.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Mar 09, 2025 6:39 pm

I remembered late last night. Specifically, I knew that if I was to be functional today, I needed to be lying down and ready to sleep by 2 AM. At 1:59 AM I got up to pee before bed, and got back to bed at 3:03 AM.

Oops.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Mon Mar 10, 2025 9:50 pm

Blackhawk wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 6:39 pm I remembered late last night. Specifically, I knew that if I was to be functional today, I needed to be lying down and ready to sleep by 2 AM. At 1:59 AM I got up to pee before bed, and got back to bed at 3:03 AM.

Oops.

That's some bladder you have there.