Corporate Resistance Thread - Boycott on February 28

[msduncan]

Do you still support the 2nd Amendment?

I mean, I grew up thinking the whole 2A was about embracing violence when one needs to resist the government. (Which I always found absurd in our lifetime)

The 2nd Amendment is about the last line of defense against government tyranny. We aren't there yet.

[msduncan]

The only place I see people calling for the sale of Teslas is here.

I still eat meat. I still shop at walmart or amazon when necessary. I'm probably left of most people here.

Who gives a shirt about virtue signaling?

I've seen it all over Facebook among my more left leaning friends.

[LawBeefaroni]

Also, people should stop demanding people who own a Tesla to sell them. They bought them long before all of this in a lot of cases and many would take a loss selling them just to not have a Tesla.

Agreed but anyone who drives a Tesla can't get all shocked when someone flips them off or calls them a Nazi. It may not be fair but it's not out of nowhere.

Its like ssomeone wearing Yeezys they bought a few years ago.



Re: selling at a loss. If they expected their Tesla to appreciate, not sure what to say.

Liking wearing Yeezys? No it's not. It's not even close.

With Yeezys, you're talking about a fashion choice that someone probably paid a few hundred dollars for unless they spent crazy money on StockX or Grail or some other BS resell platform.

With a Tesla, you're talking about a car that for many people is their primary mode of transportation and that cost them $50K or more.

It's complete bullshit that someone would flip someone else the bird or call them a Nazi because they continue to drive a Tesla. Those people can go fuck off as far as I'm concerned. They are 100% part of the problem.

Yeezys: overpaid and no one wants to be seen in them anymore.


Teslas: overpaid and no one wants to be seen in them anymore.

The difference, I guess, is that taxpayers didn't subsidize 12% of someone's Yeezys.



Yeah, it sucks to be stuck in a Tesla and I'm not judging. I'm saying that there is no surprise in the reaction theyre getting.

[Victoria Raverna]

Good cop and bad cop approach doesn't work without the bad cop role.

It it's especially useless if you don't understand how good cop/bad cop works.

Then maybe you can tell me so I can understand?

The bad cop is just there to influence the subject to trust the good cop. The good cop is the one who gets things done.

And generally the bad cop is just bluster and attitude.

Firebombing Tesla dealerships and defacing property aren't analogous to either.

Isn't it almost the same thing? A bunch people protest peacefully for changes, then a separate group of people breaking things to protest for changes.

The ending: The ones being protested work with the peaceful protestors to change things.

If you are being honest and look at history, you'll find a lot of examples of it. South Africa? Nelson Mandela was about peaceful protest but there were still a lot of violence involved.

[Kraken]

I would express Susan Collins-level concern over anyone buying a new Tesla in today's circumstances, but not everyone can afford to make a Sheryl Crow-type video waving goodbye to their car after donating it to NPR. If I owned one it would sport one of those "I bought this before Elon went crazy" stickers but I don't know if I'd try to unload it (I imagine resale value is in the toilet right now).

[Kurth]

Also, people should stop demanding people who own a Tesla to sell them. They bought them long before all of this in a lot of cases and many would take a loss selling them just to not have a Tesla.

Agreed but anyone who drives a Tesla can't get all shocked when someone flips them off or calls them a Nazi. It may not be fair but it's not out of nowhere.

Its like ssomeone wearing Yeezys they bought a few years ago.



Re: selling at a loss. If they expected their Tesla to appreciate, not sure what to say.

Liking wearing Yeezys? No it's not. It's not even close.

With Yeezys, you're talking about a fashion choice that someone probably paid a few hundred dollars for unless they spent crazy money on StockX or Grail or some other BS resell platform.

With a Tesla, you're talking about a car that for many people is their primary mode of transportation and that cost them $50K or more.

It's complete bullshit that someone would flip someone else the bird or call them a Nazi because they continue to drive a Tesla. Those people can go fuck off as far as I'm concerned. They are 100% part of the problem.

Yeezys: overpaid and no one wants to be seen in them anymore.


Teslas: overpaid and no one wants to be seen in them anymore.

The difference, I guess, is that taxpayers didn't subsidize 12% of someone's Yeezys.



Yeah, it sucks to be stuck in a Tesla and I'm not judging. I'm saying that there is no surprise in the reaction theyre getting.

Ok. No surprise I guess to the extent that it’s no surprise that the people in this country - on both the right and the left - are mostly a bunch of complete idiot sheep with very little sense.

To those who understand progressives on the left flipping off Tesla owners, that is a poor word choice. “Understand” has three primary definitions: (1) to perceive; (2) to interpret; and (3) to be sympathetic to a particular thing.

If you “understand” progressives flipping off Tesla owners because you perceive why they are doing what they are doing, fine. I suppose I understand it, too. In that regard, I understand why idiots do a lot stupid, nonsensical things. I understand why MAGAts love Kid Rock and Trump and hate Bud Lite and transgender people. But I sure as hell am not sympathetic to their views.

My point here is, understand anger at and harassment of Tesla owners all you want. Fine. I get it. I can’t stand Musk either. But you should not be sympathetic to their point of view on this issue. It’s stupid.

[gbasden]

It's complete bullshit that someone would flip someone else the bird or call them a Nazi because they continue to drive a Tesla. Those people can go fuck off as far as I'm concerned. They are 100% part of the problem.

Some poor dude driving an old Model Y? For sure. Some asshole driving a CyberTruck? They can eat all of the bag of dicks. They knew exactly how bad Musk was when they bought it.

[Kurth]

It's complete bullshit that someone would flip someone else the bird or call them a Nazi because they continue to drive a Tesla. Those people can go fuck off as far as I'm concerned. They are 100% part of the problem.

Some poor dude driving an old Model Y? For sure. Some asshole driving a CyberTruck? They can eat all of the bag of dicks. They knew exactly how bad Musk was when they bought it.

That’s a great point. Very important in the grand scheme of things. Fuck those CyberTruck dickheads. All 39,000 of them

Total Teslas Sold:
2021 - 937K
2022 - 1.3M
2023 - 1.8M
2024 - 1.8M

The fact that this is even a point of debate on this forum is beyond me.

[gbasden]

It's complete bullshit that someone would flip someone else the bird or call them a Nazi because they continue to drive a Tesla. Those people can go fuck off as far as I'm concerned. They are 100% part of the problem.

Some poor dude driving an old Model Y? For sure. Some asshole driving a CyberTruck? They can eat all of the bag of dicks. They knew exactly how bad Musk was when they bought it.

That’s a great point. Very important in the grand scheme of things. Fuck those CyberTruck dickheads. All 39,000 of them

Total Teslas Sold:
2021 - 937K
2022 - 1.3M
2023 - 1.8M
2024 - 1.8M

The fact that this is even a point of debate on this forum is beyond me.

What does the number of cars sold have to do with the douche level of those that chose them?

P.S. - I'm very pleased that it's been a flop.

[GreenGoo]

The only place I see people calling for the sale of Teslas is here.

I still eat meat. I still shop at walmart or amazon when necessary. I'm probably left of most people here.

I've seen it all over Facebook among my more left leaning friends.

Who gives a shirt?

[GreenGoo]

The fact that this is even a point of debate on this forum is beyond me.

Yes, it quite certainly appears to be.

[hepcat]

The fact that this is even a point of debate on this forum is beyond me.

There are some who pretty much praised Mangione shooting someone. I've learned not everything I take for granted is true.

Also, I think passions can run high sometimes. I highly doubt anyone here (with one notable exception) would actually be in favor of firebombing a tesla station if it came down to it. But right now, Musk is fanning the flames of hate pretty heavily.

[GreenGoo]

There are some who pretty much praised Mangione shooting someone. I've learned not everything I take for granted is true.

Imagine how Canadians feel.

[hepcat]

There are some who pretty much praised Mangione shooting someone. I've learned not everything I take for granted is true.

Imagine how Canadians feel.

I think I've shown whose side I'm on with that far more than once.

[GreenGoo]

I think I've shown whose side I'm on with that far more than once.

Yep. Just corroborating that no one should be surprised by much these days. A few birds flipped? Give me a break. Those guys are worse than hitler.

[Smoove_B]

Yep. Just corroborating that no one should be surprised by much these days. A few birds flipped? Give me a break. Those guys are worse than hitler.

Yeah, this is what I'm confused about. If I'm flipping the bird at a Tesla now I'm a "progressive", presumably demanding purity? I'm not saying Tesla owners should be harassed or that cars should be firebombed or vandalized, but me giving the middle finger to a car means I'm part of the problem? What is even happening?

Every time I go to Trent's house I give the finger to his neighbors that are waving giant Trump nonsense in their yard. Every time I drive by a State Farm office, I give it the finger. All these years, I had no idea that I was part of the problem.

[hepcat]

I think his point is that you're insulting someone who may very well be on the very side you're on, but just can't afford to suddenly sell/donate a car they rely on for transportation in order to make a political statement (I believe Coopasonic still has one, as a matter of fact...but that's probably not helping my case as that guy's the worst....finishing video games before the rest of us have even booted them up....who the hell does he think he is?). Purchasing a Tesla prior to a year ago wasn't showing support for Musk. It was more a statement supporting liberal ideas.

Someone putting a Trump sign in their yard though? Completely different ball game and perfectly fine if you want to pull over, drop trou and fill their yard with your replies to their support for the man who is singlehandedly destroying democracy.

[GreenGoo]

To be clear, I'm not saying anything goes for everyone just because it's crazy time in America. I'm saying we shouldn't be surprised by much, and certainly not by some (potentially misplaced) anger expressed as name calling. The idea that people directing their anger at an icon that literally represents the target of their anger, is somehow 100% part of the problem, is ludicrous.

Tesla and Musk are synonymous.

But sure, supporting the dismantling of the American government and giving the finger to car owners is 100% part of the same problem.

Lu. Di. Crous.

I think less time needs to be spent explaining Kurth's position to us, which we fully understand, and more time spent explaining to Kurth just how anger works and why finger flippers are angry and why they are targeting Tesla owners.

Kurth is the one having difficulty understanding human nature.

[hepcat]

Tesla and Musk are synonymous.

But two years ago or more, that wasn't analogous to evil. Or even slighty awful. He didn't fully join the Nationalist Front until last year.

[GreenGoo]

But two years ago or more, that wasn't analogous to evil. Or even slighty awful. He didn't fully join the Nationalist Front until last year.

So what? Life's not fair. No one is saying people are right to be targeting Tesla owners. Most are saying it's to be expected though. Kurth is the one having trouble with reality.

[hepcat]

So what? Life's not fair. No one is saying people are right to be targeting Canada. Most are saying it's to be expected though. Canadians are the ones having trouble with reality.

I rewrote that for Trump's next Truth Social post.

p.s.

I think less time needs to be spent explaining Kurth's position to us, which we fully understand

Honestly, I'm not quite sure you do or you wouldn't be this upset about it.

[GreenGoo]

So what? Life's not fair. No one is saying people are right to be targeting Canada. Most are saying it's to be expected though. Canadians are the ones having trouble with reality.

I rewrote that for Trump's next Truth Social post.

I think you're missing the "it's to be expected" part, but I'm sure it's completely analogous to you.

[GreenGoo]

Honestly, I'm not quite sure you do or you wouldn't be this upset about it.

Lol. You can't be serious.

[hepcat]

That's not a no.

[GreenGoo]

That's not a no.

Oh, I see we've decided to abandon any attempts at good faith discussion. Fun. You're fun.

*wink*

[hepcat]

Hey, I tried. But it just seemed to antagonize you even more, so I gave up and decided to roll with it.

[GreenGoo]

Hey, I tried. But it just seemed to antagonize you even more, so I gave up and decided to roll with it.

I'm not antagonized. That's why I assumed you were joking. What are you talking about?

Maybe continue to try with Smoove. You might find he's more receptive to your contributions.

[hepcat]

He is a good natured fellow, isn't he.

[LordMortis]

But two years ago or more, that wasn't analogous to evil. Or even slighty awful. He didn't fully join the Nationalist Front until last year.

He "took the red pill" and began gaslighting since at least 2020 when he both claimed the red pill and that he voted for Biden but attacked Biden the democratic party at every opportunity while championing Abbott and Paxton. That's also when all of his late night bigotry posting started becoming noticeable. His "slightly awful" started to really take hold (for me anyway) with his reaction to COVID and his demands for attention/more preferential treatment from Biden's administration and the state of California. Hints were around before then but they could be overlooked because he was such a force for bringing EV culture to the US, even as his company was only being sustained by carbon credit subsidy. Or maybe this all hallucination on my part.

(none of this excuses violence, threat of violence, or vandalism but I'll admit, I'll judge you, even as it's more of a poor statement of who I am than who you are)

[Smoove_B]

I think his point is that you're insulting someone who may very well be on the very side you're on, but just can't afford to suddenly sell/donate a car they rely on for transportation in order to make a political statement (I believe Coopasonic still has one, as a matter of fact...but that's probably not helping my case as that guy's the worst....finishing video games before the rest of us have even booted them up....who the hell does he think he is?). Purchasing a Tesla prior to a year ago wasn't showing support for Musk. It was more a statement supporting liberal ideas.

To bring this back on topic - when I drive by Target and refuse to shop there, am I insulting the workers that are employed there and need a paycheck? Should I be going into Target and buying things because I know my neighbor has a job there or can I drive by and give a giant building the finger without it being in any way related to the people that work there?

When I see Canadians booing the American anthem prior to watching a Leafs game, do I feel like they're booing me? Of course not. Are they booing Americans? No. They're booing the flag - a representation of some really bad shit right now.

When in doubt, I always go back to Dalton. Always.

Steve: Being called a cocksucker isn’t personal?
Dalton: No. It’s two nouns combined to elicit a prescribed response.
Steve: What if somebody calls my mama a whore?
Dalton: Is she?

[hepcat]

To bring this back on topic - when I drive by Target and refuse to shop there, am I insulting the workers that are employed there and need a paycheck?

Do you find out who bought a Scrub Mama scrubbing pad at a Target near you back in 2019 then drive to their homes and flip them off? That would be analogous to what was said. A boycott is perfectly fine. Boycott all you want. I'm 100 percent behind that.

When I see Canadians booing the American anthem prior to watching a Leafs game, do I feel like they're booing me? Of course not. Are they booing Americans? No.

I think they are, and that's perfectly fine in my eyes. Americans are the ones that voted in the administration that's harming them. America SHOULD be booed.

[hepcat]

But two years ago or more, that wasn't analogous to evil. Or even slighty awful. He didn't fully join the Nationalist Front until last year.

He "took the red pill" and began gaslighting since at least 2020 when he both claimed the red pill and that he voted for Biden but attacked Biden the democratic party at every opportunity while championing Abbott and Paxton. That's also when all of his late night bigotry posting started becoming noticeable. His "slightly awful" started to really take hold (for me anyway) with his reaction to COVID and his demands for attention/more preferential treatment from Biden's administration and the state of California. Hints were around before then but they could be overlooked because he was such a force for bringing EV culture to the US, even as his company was only being sustained by carbon credit subsidy. Or maybe this all hallucination on my part.

(none of this excuses violence, threat of violence, or vandalism but I'll admit, I'll judge you, even as it's more of a poor statement of who I am than who you are)

My point still stands: he wasn't always the poster boy for Doctor Evil.

[GreenGoo]

He is a good natured fellow, isn't he.

He seems quite upset lately.

[hepcat]

At the people who deserve it, in almost all cases.

[LordMortis]

But two years ago or more, that wasn't analogous to evil. Or even slighty awful. He didn't fully join the Nationalist Front until last year.

He "took the red pill" and began gaslighting since at least 2020 when he both claimed the red pill and that he voted for Biden but attacked Biden the democratic party at every opportunity while championing Abbott and Paxton. That's also when all of his late night bigotry posting started becoming noticeable. His "slightly awful" started to really take hold (for me anyway) with his reaction to COVID and his demands for attention/more preferential treatment from Biden's administration and the state of California. Hints were around before then but they could be overlooked because he was such a force for bringing EV culture to the US, even as his company was only being sustained by carbon credit subsidy. Or maybe this all hallucination on my part.

(none of this excuses violence, threat of violence, or vandalism but I'll admit, I'll judge you, even as it's more of a poor statement of who I am than who you are)

My point still stands: he wasn't always the poster boy for Doctor Evil.

He absolutely wasn't. To my (poor) recollection, sometime around his SNL appearance, he decided he wanted to become a center of attention and what an awful person he is began to be exposed. He then worked very hard to become that poster boy.

[hepcat]

Even then (hell, even now, come to think of it), a lot of people excused his awfulness as signs of autism and other things beyond his control. Me? I think he's just an egocentric asshole who uses that excuse to try to keep people on his side. Which makes him an even worse person, in my opinion.

[GreenGoo]

At the people who deserve it, in almost all cases.

I may not agree with all of his opinions, but I find they are understandable.

[hepcat]

One thing that makes me feel a twinge of savage delight is the belief that his standing in the world hopefully now means his access to money hungry actresses and young female pop singers has been limited because they're more afraid of being shunned by the entertainment industry than they love his bank account.

Yes, I'm that awful.

[LordMortis]

One thing that makes me feel a twinge of savage delight is the belief that his standing in the world hopefully now means his access to money hungry actresses and young female pop singers has been limited because they're more afraid of being shunned by the entertainment industry than they love his bank account.

Yes, I'm that awful.

I thought his thing was career advancing women within his companies.

[hepcat]

Well, at least his prospects have hopefully been diminished.