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The stupidity of the MAGA voter in one act:

https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1843754 ... NcXCfN8s1g
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I can't help but laugh this close to the election. A very rare turn on of the TV and CNBC this morning. Not sure why. Of course I turn it on from a discussion about how inflation is now the only solution to government debt now that inflation seems to have come down and begun to stabilize and the best way to do this is by tarriffs not by taxing the wealthy where Kernan goes into GOP angry shouting out everyone into silence with a both sides rant mode talking about lower taxes, less government, and degulation of the 80s is the responsible for all the growth and prosperity of the last 40 years. The next segment is about Starbucks that quickly devolves into an E Coli outbreak at McDonald's.
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Kernan is losing it more than usual. I take that as a good sign.
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It was the first time I turned them on in I don't know how many weeks, so I have no idea how it's been but him getting angry and controlling the the morning by shouting had been becoming more common place.

I don't take it as a good sign. This seems to be a more and more acceptable trend from the visible right and it's becoming normalized. The left will follow. I don't need a world of unfunny unthinking Lewis Blacks that think they are sage and funny.
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LordMortis wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:42 am It was the first time I turned them on in I don't know how many weeks, so I have no idea how it's been but him getting angry and controlling the the morning by shouting had been becoming more common place.

I don't take it as a good sign. This seems to be a more and more acceptable trend from the visible right and it's becoming normalized. The left will follow. I don't need a world of unfunny unthinking Lewis Blacks that think they are sage and funny.
He's auditioning for Kudlow 2.0 and so when shit gets under his skin, you know it's getting under Trump's skin.

I agree that our standard of discourse is on a rapid decline but that is bigger than Trump or Kernan.
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The Senate vs Trump on campaign funding:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/1 ... g-00189839

Donald Trump’s team — convinced that the Senate GOP campaign arm and its top allied super PAC are hiring “Never Trumpers” for key roles — is preparing to launch its own super PAC to compete in the next round of Senate races in 2026, according to two close allies of the president-elect.

The plan, if carried out, would upend the party’s traditional method of competing in Senate races and could cause major discord among powerful GOP financial players — pitting Trump and his new regime against longtime GOP donors seeking to influence competitive Senate races. The move could disperse money across multiple entities and hinder the Senate Leadership Fund, a group that was created to be a centralized GOP clearinghouse for Senate spending.
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They keep advertising where they want to take us and we keep not listening.

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/24/nx-s1-51 ... reme-court
Inskeep: Mr. Leo, I want people to know about something called the Teneo Network, if I'm pronouncing it correctly. There's been some reporting on this, an effort that you're involved with to bring conservative influence to businesses Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, in the same way that you brought more conservative influences to the judiciary, will you help me understand what you're doing there? With judges, you identified young law clerks, young lawyers to try to promote them into the judiciary. What are you doing with, say, Hollywood?

Leo: It's very important, in my view, to create pipelines of talent and networks of very driven, strategic people in all sectors of American life. If you want to introduce, you know, the Western cultural tradition and traditional values. So in the case of Hollywood, for example, the idea is to recruit and identify talented young professionals who have a knack for content creation and other aspects of the production of entertainment. People who believe in a sort of family-centered entertainment, where there's a high demand. And Hollywood recognizes that. And then really helping them find opportunities to use their skills to create that kind of entertainment in the Hollywood space and beyond. And there are a lot of young professionals in entertainment and in journalism and in business and finance who are looking for opportunities to inject their traditional values and the Western cultural tradition into other aspects of American social and cultural life.

Inskeep: ProPublica obtained a video of you promoting this project and saying you wanted to "crush liberal dominance." Is that what you want to do?

Leo: Yes! And the reason Steve – and I would really call your attention to the words I used: I want to crush liberal dominance. In other words, I want to make sure that there's a level playing field for the American people to make choices about the lives that they want to have in their country. I'm perfectly happy having a world where people can make choices between various kinds of things. But what I don't want is a system where our entertainment system or our world of news media or our business and finance worlds are heavily dominated by left ideology that either chokes out other ways of thinking about things, or that just creates a system where sort of inappropriate political and policy decisions are being made in places where politics and policy don't really have a proper place.
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His level playing field is Right dominated just like the McCarthy era.
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I’m placing my bet now. Assuming Lara Trump is elected Senator from Florida, I bet at some point she subsequently runs for president.
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I doubt Eric Trump’s ego would allow himself to be a “first husband”. So he’ll either leave her for another Ivanka lookalike, or put his tiny little foot down….and get it crushed.
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hepcat wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:50 pm I doubt Eric Trump’s ego would allow himself to be a “first husband”. So he’ll either leave her for another Ivanka lookalike, or put his tiny little foot down….and get it crushed.
He’s never shown any real political interest. She’s been RNC chairperson, now Senator. Too late to put his foot down, she’d already going down the road.
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As long as Eric has his blocks and his little tape player, he’s probably good.
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It's probably too soon for an article, but you might remember back in October that 19 GOP states sued the Biden administration to block DACA recipients (aka the "dreamers") from gaining access to the ACA marketplace. Well, a federal judge has just ruled they cannot purchase access to health care.

The judge is a Trump appointee, if you were wondering.

This fucking timeline already.
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The states argued that by allowing DACA recipients to benefit from subsidized health insurance and making them “lawfully present” in the health care system, they will want to stay in the country longer, causing states to spend more money on resources like education, health care and law enforcement.
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U.S. District Judge Daniel M. Traynor temporarily halted the guidance from taking effect as the lawsuit proceeds, stating that the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services does not have the authority to “circumvent congressional authority” and redefine “lawfully present,” a term used to describe people who are legally permitted to remain in the U.S.
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Dear god, can you imagine if the country were full of healthy, educated people?

They'd run out all of the real Americans!
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ERs will be even more crowded and guess who is going to ultimately eat the cost?
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Not sure where to put this, so I'll drop it here. How to turn around low US birth rates, according to conservatives

Ah yes, it’s “overeducation” and “lack of access to religious education” that is to blame for the declining birth rates. :roll:

It’s not the collapse of optimism about the future that’s being slowly strangled away from the average young person through corporate greed and political cronyism. It’s not the astronomical costs to have and raise a child, and the complete decimation of any sort of social safety net should something go wrong. It’s not the ever-increasing maternal risks for women as reproductive restrictions continue to expand. Nope, it’s all that dang book learnin’ that's the problem!
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Lack of education and/or religious zealotry can overcome almost any valid reasoning for not having a child.
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This feels related:
No women will lead a House committee for the first time in two decades after House Republicans revealed their list of committee leaders for the 119th Congress on Thursday.

The 17 standing committees, whose leaders were selected by the House Republican Steering Committee, will be dominated by white men when the new Congress is seated on Jan. 3. No people of color were selected, either.
I'm sure it's just a strange coincidence.
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Smoove_B wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:04 pm This feels related:
No women will lead a House committee for the first time in two decades after House Republicans revealed their list of committee leaders for the 119th Congress on Thursday.

The 17 standing committees, whose leaders were selected by the House Republican Steering Committee, will be dominated by white men when the new Congress is seated on Jan. 3. No people of color were selected, either.
I'm sure it's just a strange coincidence.
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Holman wrote:
Smoove_B wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:04 pm This feels related:
No women will lead a House committee for the first time in two decades after House Republicans revealed their list of committee leaders for the 119th Congress on Thursday.

The 17 standing committees, whose leaders were selected by the House Republican Steering Committee, will be dominated by white men when the new Congress is seated on Jan. 3. No people of color were selected, either.
I'm sure it's just a strange coincidence.
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Remember when the GOP disguised at libertarians used to talk about open unelected shadow governments on the left and pointed to the UN, Trilats, and George Soros as examples. Why is it their conspiracy fears always eventually become their playbooks and how the hell does it always work?

The idea that we openly have President Musk and VP Thiel running the executive branch and directly the legislative branch while the Heritage Foundation and Fedrealists run the courts and collectively we shrug and cheer it on is just in mind blowing to me. All the while that swamp of unelected corrupt oligarchs calling the shots, out to destroy our way of life for a globalist rule by and for the rich elite?
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Grifman wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:18 pm I’m placing my bet now. Assuming Lara Trump is elected Senator from Florida, I bet at some point she subsequently runs for president.
Lara Trump withdraws name from consideration for US Senate
She stepped down this month as co-chairwoman of the Republican National Committee (RNC)
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She said she had a big announcement to share in January, without giving further details.
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Elon will probably name their kid Xylophone Pudding ZK. People tried telling her father in law not to let him near Melania or his son’s wives. But would he listen?
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Holy Crap. An (federally) elected member of GOP I can listen to. How did this happen? Rep David Schweikert looking at the debt, economic contributions, and immigration for real. He reminds me of times I've long since forgotten when I used to lean conservative and how these voices has disappeared completely.

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The man sitting behind him is flirting with me, I think.
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Unagi wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 1:59 pm The man sitting behind him is flirting with me, I think.
I really think Congresspeople have learned the trick of putting their hottest aide in line with the camera. You see it all the time.
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Holman wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:20 pm
Unagi wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 1:59 pm The man sitting behind him is flirting with me, I think.
I really think Congresspeople have learned the trick of putting their hottest aide in line with the camera. You see it all the time.
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I didn't really find him terribly attractive (or not), but he has an involuntary wink if you watch him.
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Unagi wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 1:59 pm The man sitting behind him is flirting with me, I think.
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I'd also like to say I watched that video, and I agree that this man sounded legit and sincere and actually interested in solutions to real issues. If I wasn't told ahead of time that he was GOP, as the video started I would have never guessed it until he spoke about 'his brothers and sisters on the left'.

I'm seriously shocked he hasn't been primaried out of the spotlight.
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Unagi wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:26 pm
Holman wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:20 pm
Unagi wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 1:59 pm The man sitting behind him is flirting with me, I think.
I really think Congresspeople have learned the trick of putting their hottest aide in line with the camera. You see it all the time.
:ninja:

I didn't really find him terribly attractive (or not), but he has an involuntary wink if you watch him.
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