NCAA Football 2024 season

[Pyperkub]

Interesting. The oddmakers have ND as a 1.5 pt favorite currently (OSU is a 6pt favorite over TX). As indicated above, I think Penn St is a bad matchup for ND (tho I do think Allar will turn it over at least 1x, and that could be the difference). I just like the Penn St D vs ND O a bit more than I like ND's D v PSU's O - enough more that even if ND's special teams make a play, I still think I like PSU's offense to make plays.

[Scuzz]

I remember seeing Allar earlier in the season and not being impressed at all, but the last couple games he has looked pretty good. I don’t think he will lose the game for Penn State.

[Pyperkub]

So Milroe has declared for the NFL draft. I imagine DeBoer is fine with that. Milroe can’t really believe he will play quarterback in the NFL.

He reminds me of the other Jalen at Bama. Jalen Hurt, he had the same issues, yet he has developed into a decent NFL QB. Some NFL team will think they can do the same with Milroe.

Alternatively, he'd probably be a really good guy for the Ravens to pick up as a backup in case Lamar gets injured.

[Jaymann]

Those were some bizarre scoring plays by OSU. Looks like a Midwestern showdown for the championship.

[Unagi]

Everyone needs to stop scheduling games vs. ND next year.

Their conference-free money-grab will start to feed an NIL engine.

[Scuzz]

Everyone needs to stop scheduling games vs. ND next year.

Their conference-free money-grab will start to feed an NIL engine.

I think teams in a conference make money off every team in that conference that makes a NCAA or CFB playoff. So if the SEC has 2 teams in the conference gets 2 shares. There is some weird formula at play so it’s not easy to figure but I know it works that way in basketball so I assume football is set up that way. So while ND may score big from time to time they get nothing other schools performances.

[dfs]

I remember seeing Allar earlier in the season and not being impressed at all, but the last couple games he has looked pretty good. I don’t think he will lose the game for Penn State.

That aged.

[Pyperkub]

I think that's how it works now, but the CFP contract runs out next year, and I think the B1G/SEC will definitely try to make sure they get the Lion's share of the next iteration.

[Scuzz]

I remember seeing Allar earlier in the season and not being impressed at all, but the last couple games he has looked pretty good. I don’t think he will lose the game for Penn State.

That aged.

There is a reason I don’t gamble.

[Pyperkub]

I remember seeing Allar earlier in the season and not being impressed at all, but the last couple games he has looked pretty good. I don’t think he will lose the game for Penn State.

That aged.

TBH, I also underrated Riley's ability to make plays (as well as the PSU defense's ability to fall down!).

Riley made some great throws, Allar didn't make any tough throws all night. Otherwise, PSU ran the ball a bit better, and was so close to running away, but ND came out in the second half and did a much better job on the LoS. I didn't think they could, but they proved me wrong. Even so, it was a great game, as was the second.

[Lassr]

I have a feeling we probably saw the true National Championship game with Ohio St vs Texas. I could be wrong and Notre Dame finds a way to hang around and win, but I think Ohio St would have to play a really bad game to lose.

[ImLawBoy]

I saw somewhere (don't remember where) that ND might be the type of team that could pull a Michigan on OSU. They play a similar style of football (albeit with a somewhat functional QB) and if they're able to drag down OSU the way Michigan did, they could have similar success.

Anyway, go Team Giant Meteor.

[LawBeefaroni]

Everyone needs to stop scheduling games vs. ND next year.

Their conference-free money-grab will start to feed an NIL engine.

Schedules are decided years in advance. Being independent, ND already has most of 2030 decided.

[Isgrimnur]

Y'all ready?

[Skinypupy]

Y'all ready?

Meh, don't really care.

Schedules are decided years in advance. Being independent, ND already has most of 2030 decided.

True, but future schedules don't mean all that much. Those games get bought out all the time.

[Jaymann]

Y'all ready?

Don't look now but we may have a contested game.

[Isgrimnur]

I disagree with counting playoff statistics as season achievements.

[Scuzz]

Y'all ready?

Don't look now but we may have a contested game.

Nah.

[Skinypupy]

Oh hey, the team with the largest NIL collective just won the National Title. What a shocker!

[ImLawBoy]

That's silly. Michigan didn't have the largest NIL collective!

[Scuzz]

Oh hey, the team with the largest NIL collective just won the National Title. What a shocker!

They were beatable during the season though. I just don’t think this was a year with any great teams. And I don’t think either Howard or Leonard are future NFL starters.

[Lassr]

Oh hey, the team with the largest NIL collective just won the National Title. What a shocker!

They were beatable during the season though. I just don’t think this was a year with any great teams. And I don’t think either Howard or Leonard are future NFL starters.

I don't think we will see many years with great teams since you cannot develop players (or team chemistry) anymore, they trasfer too much, and in a few years the NFL will start feeling the degrading talent too...
Rare will there be a team that can afford major injuries since the backups will be inexperienced and young with the better backup transferring to starting positions on other teams.

Need to just make this semi-pro with contracts and salary caps and do it quickly.

[Pyperkub]

Oh hey, the team with the largest NIL collective just won the National Title. What a shocker!

They were beatable during the season though. I just don’t think this was a year with any great teams. And I don’t think either Howard or Leonard are future NFL starters.

Ohio St **became** a great team. They weren't early, and they had to overcome a TON of OL issues, and like many great teams, needed that one awful loss to truly come together, but they pretty much blew out all comers when it counted. Sure, they had to make some late plays after they coasted too much or committed too many penalties (Texas), but they became what I thought they would be after hiring Kelly with all of that talent. I always thought they'd lose at Oregon and then beat them later (tho I did think it would be in the B1G championship, not the Rose Bowl quarterfinal).

[JCC]

I would expect multi-loss national champions will become the norm going forward due to the changes we have discussed before about freedom of player movement and players being paid to play. Undefeated champs will likely become the infrequent exception.

[Pyperkub]

I would expect multi-loss national champions will become the norm going forward due to the changes we have discussed before about freedom of player movement and players being paid to play. Undefeated champs will likely become the infrequent exception.

Also the longer season. See the lack of an undefeated team in the NFL since '72.

[Apollo]

Early predictions before I start reading about teams and the new season:

SEC Winner: Texas (or maybe Georgia)
National Champion: Ohio State (or maybe Georgia)

That is all.

As a final comment on this past season, I would like to point out that I correctly predicted the two teams in the SEC championship game and the eventual National Champion. Oh sure, I really went out on a limb picking Ohio State to win it all but did anyone else in this thread? No! Therefore, in OO NCAA Football preseason predictions, I am the new King.

I'm thinking Arkansas and Wisconsin next year, but we'll see...

[Pyperkub]

Uh, yes.

Personally, I think tOSU is the team to beat, and it's all about getting Chip Kelly. I fully expect them to have the top rushing attack in the country, by far (save for the option service academies).

[Apollo]

Uh, yes.

Personally, I think tOSU is the team to beat, and it's all about getting Chip Kelly. I fully expect them to have the top rushing attack in the country, by far (save for the option service academies).

OK, well next year will be the tie-breaker.

[Pyperkub]

Uh, yes.

Personally, I think tOSU is the team to beat, and it's all about getting Chip Kelly. I fully expect them to have the top rushing attack in the country, by far (save for the option service academies).

OK, well next year will be the tie-breaker.

Well, I probably won't be picking Ohio St - Chip Kelly is off to the Raiders

The Las Vegas Raiders have made their final coordinator hire ahead of the 2025 NFL season.

Last week, the franchise hired Pete Carroll to take the role of head coach. Now, Carroll has a key position filled on staff: offensive coordinator.

[Pyperkub]

I apologize, my bad, it seemed like you meant targeted beyond the simple definition you just gave. It sounded more like you were using it in the way that basically means unfairly targeted.

That was my impression as well. It sounded like you thought they had a vendetta against Michigan.

Yeah, if meant "unfairly targeted", I would have said that. I think I've been pretty consistent over the last year or so that (1) if Michigan broke the rules, they should be punished; (2) Michigan broke the rules (i.e., advanced in-person scouting - but not sign stealing, which is not against the rules); (3) punishment should be light for the known violations; and (4) this whole thing is way overblown. I've also been willing to address new facts as they come out, and I think I've done so fairly while not trying to hide my personal bias.

It'd be nice to get some benefit of the doubt around here. ;p

I apologize, my bad, it seemed like you meant targeted beyond the simple definition you just gave. It sounded more like you were using it in the way that basically means unfairly targeted.

That was my impression as well. It sounded like you thought they had a vendetta against Michigan.

Well, The "online sources" do think that it is an Ohio St plot

Oh, yeah. They think Thamel is completely in the bag for OSU, that he highlights issues that are bad for Michigan and ignores issues that are bad for OSU, and that he basically willed this relatively minor violation into a huge scandal. While he does clearly have connections at OSU and gets info from there dating back to Urban Meyer days, and you can certainly question some of his coverage choices (why did he leave it for others at ESPN to report that OSU also had Michigan's signals and shared them with competitors?), I think it's probably unfair to say that OSU is directing him. They're just really, really happy with the work he's doing.

FWIW, apparently there's a documentary episode of some Netflix series called "Untold" that is coming out soon that focuses on Connor Stalions. Unsure if it's casting him in a good light or making him a villain.

Of course, Michigan's issues weren't limited to sign-stealing!

Matt Weiss, who worked for the Baltimore Ravens before joining the University of Michigan in 2021, was charged with 14 counts of unauthorized computer access and 10 counts of identity theft.

The indictment was filed in federal court in Detroit.

Weiss was fired in 2023 as Michigan's co-offensive coordinator after failing to cooperate with the school's investigation of his access to computers.

Phone and email messages seeking comment from his attorney, Doug Mullkoff, were not immediately returned Thursday.

From 2015 to 2023, Weiss gained access to the databases of more than 100 colleges and universities that were maintained by a third-party vendor, Keffer Development Services, and then downloaded personal information and medical data of more than 150,000 athletes, the indictment states...

..."Weiss primarily targeted female college athletes," the indictment said. "He researched and targeted these women based on their school affiliation, athletic history and physical characteristics. His goal was to obtain private photographs and videos never intended to be shared beyond intimate partners."

Weiss kept notes on photos and videos that he downloaded, commenting on the bodies and sexual preferences and sometimes returning years later to look for new images, the indictment said.

What a creep.

[ImLawBoy]

Be better. That's not a Michigan issue - that's an issue with a pervert who happened to work at Michigan.

[Pyperkub]

Be better. That's not a Michigan issue - that's an issue with a pervert who happened to work at Michigan.

Nah. You know how college football ribbing goes

[ImLawBoy]

Actually, I've tried (not always successfully, I'll admit) to avoid using scandals like that for college sports ribbing. Whether it's Sandusky as Penn State, Nassar at Michigan State, or Dr. Anderson at Michigan - the victims are real people who don't deserve to be grist for the sports rivalry mill. Weiss's victims might not have been physically assaulted like in those other cases, but they're still victims. It's distasteful to me to use that for sports banter.

[Scuzz]

Did Michigan know anything about this or suspect it when they fired him? Kinda makes you wonder.

[Pyperkub]

Did Michigan know anything about this or suspect it when they fired him? Kinda makes you wonder.

Well, pretty the article he was fired for not cooperating with an investigation, so they knew something was up.

[ImLawBoy]

Yeah, he was fired because of it and his non-cooperation with the investigation. I doubt Michigan knew what he was doing and turned a blind eye to it prior to the investigation (that would be something to ding Michigan for if it were true), but they seemed to act pretty quickly once it came to light. I found it interesting that the article notes he was doing it well prior to starting at Michigan, so he was doing it while on staff with the Baltimore Ravens. Guessing he had access to whatever system(s) this was due to scouting purposes.

[Pyperkub]

Stanford fires Troy Taylor

I did not think this would happen, it seemed like it was going to be a slap on the wrist, but here we are...

"Since beginning my role as General Manager, I have been thoroughly assessing the entire Stanford football program. It has been clear that certain aspects of the program need change," Stanford football general manager Andrew Luck said in a statement. "Additionally, in recent days, there has been significant attention to Stanford investigations in previous years related to Coach Taylor.

And it was Andrew Luck who pulled the trigger.

[Scuzz]

Why wouldn’t you fire a coach who is losing and at the same time is causing problems within the program?