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Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:28 am Trump admin accidentally sent Maryland father to Salvadorian mega-prison and says it can’t get him back
The Trump administration accidentally sent a Salvadorian immigrant to a notorious Salvadorian prison and says it can’t do anything to get him back.

That’s even though the man had protected immigration status in the U.S., specifically barring him from being sent back to that country for fear of persecution.

On Monday, in a filing in Maryland federal court, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) admitted to mistakenly sending Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia to El Salvador’s notoriously brutal CECOT prison.
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The Trump administration argues that because the man is no longer in U.S. custody, a U.S. court lacks jurisdiction to issue orders regarding his detention and release.
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The administration has acknowledged that “many” of the over 200 Venezuelans sent to El Salvador did not have a prior criminal record.
This is disgusting.

And, yes, the cruelty is the point. It's less "we can't help him" than "no one will help when we do it to you."
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Judge rules US must return man deported to El Salvador in 'error'
Judge Xinis called Mr Garcia's deportation "an illegal act" when issuing her order on Friday. She said he must be returned by Monday.
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In a post on X, White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller referred to Judge Xinis as a "Marxist", who "now thinks she's president of El Salvador".

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said: "We suggest the Judge contact President [Nayib] Bukele because we are unaware of the judge having jurisdiction or authority over the country of El Salvador."
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Mr Garcia's lawyer said the claims by the Trump administration that his client could not be returned were "outrageous".

"They're coming before this court and saying, 'We've tried nothing and we're all out of options,'" Mr Sandoval-Moshenberg told Judge Xinis.
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The government lawyer conceded that Mr Garcia "should not have been removed", according to CBS News, the BBC's US partner.

"There is no warrant for his arrest. There is no statement of probable cause," Judge Xinis said. "What is the actual document that got this process started?"

Mr Reuveni said he did "not have that order. It is not on the record".

The justice department lawyer noted that, in his view, "the government made a choice here to produce no evidence", adding that this "absence of evidence speaks for itself".
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Nothing like responding to a court order with, "You want it done, Your Honor? You do it."





And getting away with it.
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This incident alone would put any normal presidency in jeopardy. Yet now it is just a minor aside in the long list of abuses and anti-constitutional actions.
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Exactly. The more actions like this that go unanswered -and- daily life just keeps humming along? It's tacit approval.

Remember how two weeks ago there was a DoD scandal about the use of Signal? That's all been forgotten because of "Liberation" day - along with the random people that have disappeared into ICE or are now in a foreign country and will likely never be heard of again.

The trick all along has been to just keep doing outrageous things because the average person (and certainly the legal system) just cannot keep up.
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Smoove_B wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:43 am Exactly. The more actions like this that go unanswered -and- daily life just keeps humming along? It's tacit approval.

Remember how two weeks ago there was a DoD scandal about the use of Signal? That's all been forgotten because of "Liberation" day - along with the random people that have disappeared into ICE or are now in a foreign country and will likely never be heard of again.

The trick all along has been to just keep doing outrageous things because the average person (and certainly the legal system) just cannot keep up.
They learned this trick during the first Trump administration. It's just that now what they're doing and what we're forgetting is so much worse.
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The same week he trashes the US economy he does this quietly

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/tr ... r-AA1CiBV3
Donald Trump's gold immigration cards are becoming a reality.

On Thursday, April 3, the president posed with the first "Trump Card" — a $5 million green card alternative that would allow wealthy immigrants to be admitted to the United States — while speaking to reporters on Air Force One. He projected that such cards, decorated with his own image, will be available in "less than two weeks, probably."

"Five million. For five million dollars, this could be yours," Trump said, holding the card up for all to see.

"You know what that card is?" he continued, waiting for reporters to offer their guesses. "It's the gold card. The Trump card, gold card."
So when did Congress approve this and how does this benefit the nation?
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