[WW - nonvariant] Back to Basics - Game Over

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed May 02, 2007 11:05 pm

I hope we find out tonight! I have to go to Birmingham tomorrow and may not have access to a computer until tomorrow night.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu May 03, 2007 1:47 am

Current Vote Tally

1. Austin - PR_GMR
2. ChrisGrenard - First Snack
3. Grundbegriff - tru1cy
4. Ralph-Wiggum - Dinner Salad
5. PR_GMR - tru1cy
6. Bakhtosh - tru1cy
7. tru1cy - PR_GMR
8. Kelric - Palate cleanser
9. pr0ner - Lynched, Human
10. Cesare - PR_GMR
11. Lassr - PR_GMR
12. Archinerd - Lynched, Human

PR_GMR - 4
tru1cy - 3

4 votes needed for majority.
Voting is closed.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu May 03, 2007 1:53 am

They debated a little, they felt their guts a lot, they kicked sand at each other, they pointed finger. In the end they were almost evenly divided but the decision came down. PR_GMR must face the noose. They marched him to the edge of the well, its stones blackened by the drying blood of the innocents that had already faced their wrath. PR_GMR stood tall and faced them with a sad expression on his face. Unwilling to look into his eyes any longer they pushed him over. His body jerked once and his neck snapped. As they pulled him to the surface they waited intently for the change they knew should occur. This time they could not be wrong. This time they had to have found a wolf. This time they had again killed an innocent. There was no change. From somewhere within the mob came a sob of despair and anguish. PR_GMR was human

IT IS NIGHT.
Werewolves send me the name of your meal.
Seer, send me who you would dream of.
Villagers search yourselves for forgiveness.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu May 03, 2007 6:51 am

Code: Select all

Bakhtosh acc tru1cy(1)
Grundbegriff acc tru1cy(2)
Austin acc PR_GMR(1)
  tru1cy acc Grundbegriff(1)
PR_GMR acc tru1cy(3)
Cesare acc PR_GMR(2)
  tru1cy wd Grundbegriff(0)
tru1cy acc PR_GMR(3)
Lassr acc PR_GMR(4), killing him

Against tru1cy(3): Bakhtosh, Grundbegriff, PR_GMR

Against PR_GMR(4): Austin, Cesare, tru1cy, Lassr

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu May 03, 2007 7:46 am

Lassr wrote:my list was
1. Archinerd
2. tru1cy
3. grundbegriff

I'm going to hold off voting for now though. I've already been part of killing 2 innocents so I'm little timid at the moment.

Lassr wrote:I'm going with gut feeling this time, using my brain got me nowhere last few rounds.

PR_GMR

tru1cy wrote:Grund logic dictates that we target either you and Archinerd. One of you are most likely a WW. Going off on a wild tangent gets the village nowhere.

tru1cy wrote:grunbegriff sometimes we just over think this stuff. Go with the gut. Btw, I can easily lodge my vote for Archinerd

PR_GMR wrote:My suspicions are now tingling for several people, but I can only choose one. So, my vote goes to tru1cy.

tru1cy did vote for himself earlier in the game, but that smacks me of a smokescreen tactic to make people think he's not wolfy.

PR_GMR wrote:Ok, I'll briefly share my 'suspicion matrix'. This is who I currently suspect of being a wolfy, in order of priority:

1. tru1cy (you ain't fooling me by voting for yourself)
2. Austin (although Austin hardly ever plays a wolf/bad guy, I'm beginning to suspect him here)
3. Cesare (just a vibe I'm getting from him)
4. Grundbegriff (He's not high on my list, because Grundbegriff always 'looks guilty' due to his lenghty analytical Machiavellian posting style. I'm trying to get more of a read from him beyond his usual posting style. So far, nothing.)
5. Lassr (I'm getting no reading on Lassr so far.)
6. Bakhtosh (the same. I'm getting no reading from Bakhtosh either.)

I will say this: I am innocent. And if you hang me, you'll be making a grievous mistake.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu May 03, 2007 8:06 am

dammit!
lassrcide.

brain failed me and now the gut.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Thu May 03, 2007 8:11 am

Grund I have to agree with you that Lassr has made me look guilty as well as himself.

I can only vouch for myself to say I'm not a WW. My thinking is that both wolves are in the lynch vote for PR_GMR, so I would start the search there.

We need a bag a WW this day if we are to win

Btw, Grund your streak of getting a wolf has been broken and that is quite odd. Why is that?

Can I suggest no on log a vote so the two WW can't bandwagon

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu May 03, 2007 8:18 am

should have went with brain again.

I am human. I am Remus West reincarnate. lassrcide.

I went with PR-GMR simply for the fact that I agreed that he was playing a different game than normal for being a normal innocent.

I'll be gone most of the day. Post surgery checkup in Birmingham for my wife.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu May 03, 2007 8:36 am

Fantastic. (Do I need sarcasm headers?) And yes, it's directed at myself.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu May 03, 2007 9:28 am

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Thu May 03, 2007 9:33 am

Welcome PR_GMR. The grave is cold and damp, but at least you know you are among friends.

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Thu May 03, 2007 9:55 am

Blurrgghhhhhhh. (/tina fey) Told ya you were making a grievous mistake.

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:20 am

tru1cy wrote: Btw, Grund your streak of getting a wolf has been broken and that is quite odd. Why is that?

Could have something to do with this:
Against tru1cy(3): Bakhtosh, Grundbegriff, PR_GMR

He didn't bag the one he voted for.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:45 am

They did not sleep well that night. Three times they all came running to Cesare's house at the sound of his screams. Each time he sheepishly answered the door and told them it was just a mouse that had startled him. The fourth time he screamed his cries were met with a shout of "Shut the Hell up already and buy a friggin cat." Perhaps they should not have been surprised when he did not appear at the well the next day. Perhaps they should have forced themselves to check his house in the morning light but they could not go beyond the shattered door. Wearily they turned red rimmed eyes upon each other and began to point fingers once again.

It is day

1. Austin -
2. ChrisGrenard - First Snack
3. Grundbegriff -
4. Ralph-Wiggum - Dinner Salad
5. PR_GMR - Lynched, Human
6. Bakhtosh -
7. tru1cy -
8. Kelric - Palate cleanser
9. pr0ner - Lynched, Human
10. Cesare - Main Course
11. Lassr -
12. Archinerd - Lynched, Human

3 votes needed for majority.
Cast your votes at will

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:59 am

Cesare · Post by **Cesare** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:25 am

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:27 am

I'll be back tonight.

I will vote tru1cy but not now I don't want to let the other 2 wolves to jump on board if tru1cy turns out innocent. If I have to cast the killing vote again when I get back I will.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu May 03, 2007 12:04 pm

I'll wait for Lassr - and do the opposite. Actually I kid, as I started the PR_GMR thing. I am going to wait and hear from folks though. 1 bad vote and the wolves can jump on it.

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Thu May 03, 2007 2:08 pm

At this point, I have to assume the push to get PM_GMR killed when the tru1cy bandwagon was so close had to be orchestrated in part by the wolves.

I'll vote before the end of the working day...and wait for discussion until then.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu May 03, 2007 2:10 pm

You've had an admirable run, tru1cy, but your reign of terror ends here.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Thu May 03, 2007 4:28 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:You've had an admirable run, tru1cy, but your reign of terror ends here.

You know what Grund.... If you are innocent you would be more careful in voting.

I'm thinking Grundbegriff and Bakhtosh are the WW. I'm not voting yet. We need more discussion. We miss this time and the village is done

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu May 03, 2007 6:13 pm

tru1cy wrote:You know what Grund.... If you are innocent you would be more careful in voting.

You know what? That's silly. Nobody in the game has been more careful. I've gathered all the objective data. I've presented it for everyone's consumption. I've described the various theories I could think of, but I've refrained from pushing any particular interpretation.

To claim I'm not being careful is ludicrous. Not only that, it's desperate, since everyone who bothers to look can see through it.

My vote was against you last round for reasons I made plain. Nothing since yesterday has changed my mind about you, and your attempt to mislead confirms my suspicions.

I'm thinking Grundbegriff and Bakhtosh are the WW.

Really. Well, leaving me alive was puzzling and cute for a while, but doing it last night was a big mistake. You're going to pay the price for that mistake.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu May 03, 2007 6:33 pm

So you're trying to make me out as hasty, eh? Have a bite of this:

tru1cy wrote:Btw, Grund your streak of getting a wolf has been broken and that is quite odd. Why is that?

Why? Because you're a sneaky, sneaky man. And a quiet one. And one with mountains of experience, since you have played nearly every Werewolf game.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:33 pm

I'm back. I see we have one vote. I'll vote here soon, but I'm waiting on something first.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:44 pm

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:23 pm

So much for discussion.

I'm sticking with tru1cy. I think yesterday proved it. He was on the chopping block and suddenly he and another started pushing really hard for PR_GMR...who turned up innocent.

Time for you to swing at the end of a rope.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:26 pm

Current Vote Tally

1. Austin -
2. ChrisGrenard - First Snack
3. Grundbegriff - tru1cy
4. Ralph-Wiggum - Dinner Salad
5. PR_GMR - Lynched, Human
6. Bakhtosh - tru1cy
7. tru1cy -
8. Kelric - Palate cleanser
9. pr0ner - Lynched, Human
10. Cesare - Main Course
11. Lassr -
12. Archinerd - Lynched, Human

tru1cy - 2

3 votes needed for majority.
Cast your votes at will

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:33 pm

tru1cy

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:39 pm

Current Vote Tally

1. Austin -
2. ChrisGrenard - First Snack
3. Grundbegriff - tru1cy
4. Ralph-Wiggum - Dinner Salad
5. PR_GMR - Lynched, Human
6. Bakhtosh - tru1cy
7. tru1cy -
8. Kelric - Palate cleanser
9. pr0ner - Lynched, Human
10. Cesare - Main Course
11. Lassr - tru1cy
12. Archinerd - Lynched, Human

tru1cy - 3

3 votes needed for majority.
Voting is Closed

ChrisGrenard · Post by **ChrisGrenard** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:40 pm

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:43 pm

ChrisGrenard wrote:

I don't like the looks of that post.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:48 pm

Grundbegriff shouted for the guilty to pay. tru1cy asked for them to be careful. Bakhtosh took up the call, "tru1cy must face justice." Lassr sadly shook his head, "It is time for us to know the truth. tru1cy must face the rope."

Oddly quiet Austin placed the rope around tru1cy's neck and unceremoniously gave him a shove into the well. Before the snap echoed back he turned to Grundbegriff, "Well, looky looky, tru1cy was HUMAN.

Grundbegriff grinned as his jaw elogated. "So he was wasn't he."

Lassr and Bakhotsh turned to each other in horror. "Oh gods, what have we done?" Then the wolves were upon them, no longer needing to wait until dark Grundbegriff and Austin set to playing with their food, batting the two unfortunate humans back and forth between them before finally growing weary of their game and tearing them in two. "You feel like eating?" Austin asked. "Not really, food was to easy to come by here, I'm stuffed." answered Grundbegriff, "Let's go find another town to play with."

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:50 pm

Wolves win in a perfect game.

Wolves:
Grundbegriff
Austin

Seer:
pr0ner

Villagers:
everyone else

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:50 pm

That was horrible.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:53 pm

Did anyone actually read my last post and not just rely on Grund's summation? I thought I made it pretty clear that it was very likely either Archinerd or Grund was a wolf.

edit: And yes, I was the one pr0ner was in contact with.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:53 pm

I have to admit that when the roles came up I figured the wolves were doomed. I thought Grund would get lynched simply by living through the night. I thought Austin would get lynched because of the vampire game. I figure pr0ner would never get eaten because of the vampire game.

Then when Grund manufactured the lynching of pr0ner, even admitting that pr0ner had told him he was the Seer, I figured there was no way he would get out alive. Well played Grundbegriff and Austin.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:56 pm

I knew I should have pushed harder on Grund.

I was pm'ing Austin early trying to get a feel for him since he was too quiet. He didn't give anything away.

After killing PR_GMR I had no confidence to push for a Grund lynching since I was batting 0.000%.

ChrisGrenard · Post by **ChrisGrenard** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:56 pm

Grund was pm'ing me halfway through the game with, "Stop with the ghost posts! You'll give us away!"

Apparently there was no force in the world strong enough to clue the village in on their constant mistakes.

Seriously people, how did you let Grund of all people live through the game? Austin, yeah, he's tricky, but Grund? You should have known better.

/scold

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:00 am

P.S. Even if Grund was killed, I think Austin would've been a hard out. In none of his posts did really give bad/wolf-like advice or reasoning.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:04 am

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:P.S. Even if Grund was killed, I think Austin would've been a hard out. In none of his posts did really give bad/wolf-like advice or reasoning.

Yep, ultra quiet and careful even in the PMs with me.

I thought at the end it could be Grund and tru1cy or bahktosh and tru1cy. Lesson learned "stick to your guns even if you get some wrong"