2012 Elections

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:50 pm

I'm beginning to get the impression that god will be on the ballot next year.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:59 pm

Defiant wrote:I'm beginning to get the impression that god will be on the ballot next year.

I will vote against him.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:22 pm

Kraken wrote:
Defiant wrote:I'm beginning to get the impression that god will be on the ballot next year.
I will vote against him.

God is everywhere, so he'll be on all the tickets.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:29 pm

Bachmann: Irene was political message from God

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:47 pm

Defiant wrote:Bachmann: Irene was political message from God

I think her explanation is plausible. She was making a joke about the cluster of natural disasters. Similar jokes were made around our IT office: "I don't think God likes the latest build" and so forth.

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:07 pm

God is mad about federal spending so he generates natural disasters that require more federal spending? That doesn't seem very smart. Anybody who thinks about this for more than a few seconds would realize that the disasters occurred because of his disapproval of gay marriage.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:16 pm

That Old Testament humor must be a big hit with Real Americans.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:01 pm

Captain Caveman wrote:God is mad about federal spending so he generates natural disasters that require more federal spending? That doesn't seem very smart. Anybody who thinks about this for more than a few seconds would realize that the disasters occurred because of his disapproval of gay marriage.

Clearly you weren't paying attention. We either pay for disaster relief with spending cuts or we don't pay for disaster relief.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:02 pm

Smoove_B wrote:That Old Testament humor must be a big hit with Real Americans.

And with this, the derailment has become on topic.

malichai11 · Post by **malichai11** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:10 pm

Captain Caveman wrote:God is mad about federal spending so he generates natural disasters that require more federal spending? That doesn't seem very smart. Anybody who thinks about this for more than a few seconds would realize that the disasters occurred because of his disapproval of gay marriage.

Your god is too busy being indicted for tax fraud!

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:38 pm

malichai11 wrote:
Captain Caveman wrote:God is mad about federal spending so he generates natural disasters that require more federal spending? That doesn't seem very smart. Anybody who thinks about this for more than a few seconds would realize that the disasters occurred because of his disapproval of gay marriage.
Your god is too busy being indicted for tax fraud!

Easy with that New York sense of humor.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:51 pm

That's about as funny as Michelle Bachmann's "joke." But when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:55 pm

With both the left and the right piling on her, she should fade fast. Then Rick and Mitt can thumb wrestle.

malichai11 · Post by **malichai11** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:44 pm

Mr. Fed wrote:
malichai11 wrote:
Captain Caveman wrote:God is mad about federal spending so he generates natural disasters that require more federal spending? That doesn't seem very smart. Anybody who thinks about this for more than a few seconds would realize that the disasters occurred because of his disapproval of gay marriage.
Your god is too busy being indicted for tax fraud!
Easy with that New York sense of humor.

You mean Jewish, don't you?

You know, this isn't the appropriate place for this, but I feel that the West Wing just doesn't get the credit it deserves, probably because of how the show kind of sank after Sorkin left.

godhugh · Post by **godhugh** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:39 pm

malichai11 wrote:
Mr. Fed wrote:
malichai11 wrote:
Captain Caveman wrote:God is mad about federal spending so he generates natural disasters that require more federal spending? That doesn't seem very smart. Anybody who thinks about this for more than a few seconds would realize that the disasters occurred because of his disapproval of gay marriage.
Your god is too busy being indicted for tax fraud!
Easy with that New York sense of humor.
You mean Jewish, don't you?

You know, this isn't the appropriate place for this, but I feel that the West Wing just doesn't get the credit it deserves, probably because of how the show kind of sank after Sorkin left.

It really doesn't. I consider the first 4 seasons to be some of the best TV of all-time and definitely think that "Two Cathedrals" is the best hour of television I've ever watched.

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:36 pm

There is a truck parked outside my house with a Nugent/Palin '12 bumper sticker proudly displayed in the back window. I found it kind of humorous that of the two, the driver apparently feels more comfortable with Nugent at the top of the ticket.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:50 pm

Captain Caveman wrote:There is a truck parked outside my house with a Nugent/Palin '12 bumper sticker proudly displayed in the back window. I found it kind of humorous that of the two, the driver apparently feels more comfortable with Nugent at the top of the ticket.

Palin would soon have two grandkids were that ticket to happen.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:52 pm

When Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard is dumbfounded by the lack of quality conservative candidates, you know something is wrong:

THE WEEKLY STANDARD’s official reaction to last night’s Republican presidential debate: Yikes.

Reading the reactions of thoughtful commentators after the stage emptied, talking with conservative policy types and GOP political operatives later last evening and this morning, we know we’re not alone. Most won’t express publicly just how horrified—or at least how demoralized—they are.

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:02 pm

Pyperkub wrote:When Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard is dumbfounded by the lack of quality conservative candidates, you know something is wrong:

THE WEEKLY STANDARD’s official reaction to last night’s Republican presidential debate: Yikes.

Reading the reactions of thoughtful commentators after the stage emptied, talking with conservative policy types and GOP political operatives later last evening and this morning, we know we’re not alone. Most won’t express publicly just how horrified—or at least how demoralized—they are.

Just for grins I was live-snarking the debate last night on Twitter. I actually came out (1) liking Huntsman and Johnson more, and being happy they were there, (2) liking Paul a bit more, but knowing he's got all sorts of issues (even from a libertarian standpoint), (3) having more mixed feelings about Perry (hating him more for some things, begrudgingly admiring him for standing by his beliefs on others), (4) taking Cain less seriously, (5) finding Romney more electable but less substantive, and (6) despising Santorum and Bachmann even more.

I would probably vote for Huntsman or Johnson (despite flaws) at this point in a general.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:59 pm

And the winner (of the Florida Straw Poll)...

Herman Cain!

These numbers are kind of unexpected:

Herman Cain: 37.11%
Rick Perry: 15.43%
Mitt Romney: 14.00%
Rick Santorum: 10.88%
Ron Paul: 10.39%
Newt Gingrich: 8.43%
Jon Huntsman: 2.26%
Michele Bachmann: 1.51%

I mean, Santorum in double digits??

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:23 pm

Herman Cain at 37%!

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:08 pm

Heh Rick Perry Word Cloud

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:05 pm

Knowing that one term will be unlikely, Gingrich says he wants two terms.

But if Gingrich is going to dream, why shouldn't he dream of being King? Gingrich wants to sign between 50 and 200 executive orders in his first hour of being President. President Barack Obama has only signed 95 total executive orders in the past 3 years. President George W. Bush signed 291 executive orders over 8 years.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:22 pm

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:16 pm

I would hit that...oh wait...wrong thread.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:13 am

The birthers would have a field day.

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:15 pm

Yeah. Okay. Let's put Spock on a stage where he has to listen to Bachmann and Perry and Santorum and Cain, and where he has to listen to questions submitted via YouTube.

That's like inviting Hal to the debate and making all the questions about what ten divided by zero is.

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:29 pm

This will be very awkward for Romney. Though not as awkward as for the gay Indian grizzly bear who is the speaker after that.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:39 pm

Mr. Fed wrote:This will be very awkward for Romney.

At this year’s Values Voters Summit Mitt Romney is speaking right before noted anti-gay, ant-bear activist Bryan Fischer

They crossed an ant with a bear and got this guy?

If we had ethics in science, we never would have reached this point.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:52 pm

Well, the ant-lions were rather underwhelming, so they had to go bigger. Do you have any idea the DNA work required to mix the ant, bear, and elephant? Especially when the elephants keep stomping on the funds for bear DNA studies?

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:51 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Especially when the elephants keep stomping on the funds for bear DNA studies?

Try the veal. Isg will be here all week.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:04 pm

Mr. Fed wrote:This will be very awkward for Romney. Though not as awkward as for the gay Indian grizzly bear who is the speaker after that.

If Romney has any sense of playfulness, he'll show up in full-on short-sleeve white-shirt & skinny-black-tie Mormon door-to-door regalia.

But this is Romney, so he'll just grin uncomfortably.

Exodor · Post by **Exodor** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:09 pm

Can we stop talking about her now?

"After much prayer and serious consideration, I have decided that I will not be seeking 2012 GOP nomination for president of the United states. As always, my family comes first and obviously Todd and I put great consideration into family life before making this decision."

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:24 pm

Exodor wrote:Can we stop talking about her now?

"After much prayer and serious consideration, I have decided that I will not be seeking 2012 GOP nomination for president of the United states. As always, my family comes first and obviously Todd and I put great consideration into family life before making this decision."

and i interpret her reasonings......as such....

if i run for president and fail to secure the nominationg; if i make an asshat out of myself in the debates again, or stumble....it will irrevocably harm the Sarah Palin brand...and will harm my ability to make money off the current position i am in.....

i was wondering about this for a while, if she would run...and one of the pundits i saw on tv said it best (paraphrasing) "she's not book smart, nor really deep...but she is very cunning and savy".....

i think sarah realizes her attraction is narrow, and for her personally its best to stay in her current position and milk it, than to jeopardize it by a failed run.

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:55 pm

I grasp the appeal of W. I grasp the appeal of Cain or Romney or Perry or even Bachmann.

I cannot fathom the appeal of Palin.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:28 pm

If you grasp the appeal of Bachmann, it's not a long trip to connect the dots to Palin I think.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:24 pm

That's disappointing that she's dropping out. What this race needed was more unelectable Republican candidates.

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:44 pm

YellowKing wrote:That's disappointing that she's dropping out. What this race needed was more unelectable Republican candidates.

I could enter if that makes you feel better.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:51 am

Mr. Fed wrote:I grasp the appeal of W. I grasp the appeal of Cain or Romney or Perry or even Bachmann.

I cannot fathom the appeal of Palin.

I believe I understand the appeal of Palin and the people I believe she is appealing to tend to be the people who scare the pancake out of me. They are the last people I want in charge.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:11 am

It's beginning to look a lot like caucus season everywhere you go:

Nevada’s jump ahead in the GOP presidential nominating calendar has prompted new rounds of finger pointing, insider wrangling and political threats. But some Republicans worry the biggest losers may turn out to be voters.

Republicans in the Western state announced earlier this week that they would hold their caucuses on Jan. 14, a shift that triggered a domino effect forcing other states to rethink the timing of their own contests. And now, despite private warnings from Republican officials in Washington, it’s looking more and more likely that Iowa and New Hampshire could schedule the nation’s first presidential voting for the height of the coming holiday season.
...
Nevada is among a host of states that violated party rules by pushing up their elections to garner more influence in the presidential nominating process. It’s unclear whether there will be any consequences. An RNC spokesman declined to comment publicly Thursday.

The spotlight now turns to New Hampshire Secretary of State Bill Gardner, who has the sole discretion to schedule the Granite State’s first-in-the-nation primary. Iowa Republican Party Chairman Matt Strawn said he would like to schedule Iowa’s caucuses for Jan. 5, hoping that Gardner sets the New Hampshire primary for Jan. 10.
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Gardner, who has set eight primary elections over the last three decades, said he is not likely to make a decision before Oct. 17. Strawn said he would make a decision in the next week to 10 days.

One consideration is a provision in New Hampshire law that directs Gardner to schedule the primary at least seven days before any other similar contest. It remains to be seen whether Gardner will interpret the Nevada election — which entail caucuses — as “similar” or not. Recent history offers a handful of examples of a New Hampshire primary less than a week before caucuses in other states.