Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:05 am
"I stand by nothing"
-President Trump
-President Trump
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
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"They had these beautiful, soft towels. Very good towels.... I was having fun, they were having fun. They said, 'throw 'em to me! Throw 'em to me Mr. President!"
"People died, but I get to play grown-up. Yay for me!!""In one sense you hate to see it, but in another sense you feel like you can do a good job, you're helping people, so you feel good."
WaPo Source wrote:A Republican congressional official familiar with Trump and Corker's recent conversations disputed each of the claims the president made in his tweets. Trump called Corker early last week and asked him to reconsider his decision not to seek reelection, according to this official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the private conversations. The official said the president also reaffirmed that he would have endorsed Corker had he decided to run again — which, the official added, was not the first time that Trump had extended such an offer of support.
Oh, his antics do distract from important matters. The question merely comes down to is it super tactical three dimensional chess or his insatiable desire to bloviate?GreenGoo wrote:You give him way too much credit, kraken.
Oh, absolutely. Then there's his narcissism and his ego. My point is simply that he can effectively distract from some of the things we should be paying attention to such as the graft and corruption in this administration and the removal of employer covered contraception which will increase the number of abortions not through some amazing strategy, but simply because Trump is Trump and thrives on this kind of chaos.malchior wrote:I'll go with utter lack of self-control. He can't control himself when challenged. He is predictably easy to provoke. A great trait in a leader with a nuclear arsenal at his fingertips.
Maybe we all need to send some Depends to the White Housemalchior wrote:Great piece by WaPo covering the Corker/Trump exchange. They also point out his blatant lying. Yup - this is a Presidency for the ages.
WaPo Source wrote:A Republican congressional official familiar with Trump and Corker's recent conversations disputed each of the claims the president made in his tweets. Trump called Corker early last week and asked him to reconsider his decision not to seek reelection, according to this official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the private conversations. The official said the president also reaffirmed that he would have endorsed Corker had he decided to run again — which, the official added, was not the first time that Trump had extended such an offer of support.
I didn't say he wasn't distracting. Kraken implied it was intentional.gbasden wrote:Oh, his antics do distract from important matters. The question merely comes down to is it super tactical three dimensional chess or his insatiable desire to bloviate?GreenGoo wrote:You give him way too much credit, kraken.
Keeping the media chronically off-balance, and the public unable to focus, is intentional. The specifics are random and unimportant. Whatever you're outraged about on Sunday will be old news by Wednesday.malchior wrote:I think it'd be fair to say that *part* of it is intentional. Most of it probably is pure incompetence and complete lack of character.
Today is the perfect example: Pence's walk out today: completely intentional and staged. Corker tweets: out of control rage storm.
I don't know what's more frightening. The possibility that these idiots don't know that posting a 3 year old photo from the Internet and passing it off as a new one has a 0.0% chance of going unnoticed, or the possibility that they do realize that, but know that it doesn't matter so they do it anyway.
The original topic was about Drumpf. Other people probably have more than a lizard brain.malchior wrote:I think it'd be fair to say that *part* of it is intentional. Most of it probably is pure incompetence and complete lack of character.
Today is the perfect example: Pence's walk out today: completely intentional and staged. Corker tweets: out of control rage storm.
What evidence do you have that this behaviour is coherent and done with forethought? Because I call complete bullshit. Perhaps his administration does things with a plan, but Drumpf tweets are clearly, and I mean clearly, impulsive spur of the moment things.Kraken wrote: Keeping the media chronically off-balance, and the public unable to focus, is intentional. The specifics are random and unimportant. Whatever you're outraged about on Sunday will be old news by Wednesday.
I think they are just too stupid. The bad part to me is that even when caught openly lying no one but some internet folks give a crap.BooTx wrote:I don't know what's more frightening. The possibility that these idiots don't know that posting a 3 year old photo from the Internet and passing it off as a new one has a 0.0% chance of going unnoticed, or the possibility that they do realize that, but know that it doesn't matter so they do it anyway.
Nothing wrong with disrespecting people who have earned disrespect, or so I have been told.Smoove_B wrote:I think it's disrespectful to leave a football game to protest the protesting during the National Anthem.
What a joke we've become.
Just reminiscing about the good old days. Why, it was only 11 months ago that Rip was trying to tell us it wasn't going to be as bad as we thought it would be and that time would prove him right.Rip wrote:I never said I wanted it to burn in a dumpster fire. That is just what you guys call Trump winning. I think his presidency will be fine and all of the predicted apocalypse will fall short leaving the left with the credibility gap they deserve.Zarathud wrote:This is what Rip stated he WANTED since the beginning -- to watch America burn in a Dumpster fire and roast marshmallows. Because lulz, SJW and Hillary GODDAMN Clinton.Skinypupy wrote:Or are you just expecting him to continue to be the uber-troll, even as leader of the free world?
You can only warn people that tomorrow is the end of the world so long before they start ignoring you.
Why Trump doesn't care: Paul has found the way to Trump's heart. Here's how he does it:
He spends a lot of time on the phone with him, listening patiently as Trump rattles on about his latest rounds of golf and, per one administration official, "all kinds of random stuff."
He never asks for anything. Unlike other senators, who asked for tons of money for their states in return for their health care votes, Paul never asked Trump for anything. And he never suggested he would back the final health care bill.
He plays nice. On TV, he never attacks the president personally or questions his moral center as others, like Susan Collins, do. Instead, Paul couches his opposition in principled terms — bringing it back to deficits or the Constitution.
He backed the travel ban. And Trump remembers.
I'd bet my house that he (and many others) still think...raydude wrote:Just reminiscing about the good old days. Why, it was only 11 months ago that Rip was trying to tell us it wasn't going to be as bad as we thought it would be and that time would prove him right.Rip wrote:I never said I wanted it to burn in a dumpster fire. That is just what you guys call Trump winning. I think his presidency will be fine and all of the predicted apocalypse will fall short leaving the left with the credibility gap they deserve.Zarathud wrote:This is what Rip stated he WANTED since the beginning -- to watch America burn in a Dumpster fire and roast marshmallows. Because lulz, SJW and Hillary GODDAMN Clinton.Skinypupy wrote:Or are you just expecting him to continue to be the uber-troll, even as leader of the free world?
You can only warn people that tomorrow is the end of the world so long before they start ignoring you.
YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG DUDE.
I completely agree that there is no premeditation, no cause-and-effect planning or analysis. That's why it's effective. Even stupid people can be shrewd. Trump knows that the press both is his greatest enemy and his biggest asset. He knows how to use them. The specifics don't matter; it's all about rapid-fire chaos and misdirection. The Pence thing actually goes against that grain and was probably planned by someone else. The Corker feud, OTOH, is pure Trump.GreenGoo wrote:What evidence do you have that this behaviour is coherent and done with forethought? Because I call complete bullshit. Perhaps his administration does things with a plan, but Drumpf tweets are clearly, and I mean clearly, impulsive spur of the moment things.Kraken wrote: Keeping the media chronically off-balance, and the public unable to focus, is intentional. The specifics are random and unimportant. Whatever you're outraged about on Sunday will be old news by Wednesday.
Sure, he may think to himself, tomorrow morning I'm gonna tweet about the uppity kneelers, but at no point does he think "I'm gonna tweet some outrageous bullshit so no one notices I pulled free contraception", and what he tweets is pure flow of consciousness crap from a poor thinker.
I'm not even sure if he had to start his career over again from scratch today, that he could manage it successfully, which is to say, do as mediocre as he did the first time.
Bad? It has been great.raydude wrote:Just reminiscing about the good old days. Why, it was only 11 months ago that Rip was trying to tell us it wasn't going to be as bad as we thought it would be and that time would prove him right.Rip wrote:I never said I wanted it to burn in a dumpster fire. That is just what you guys call Trump winning. I think his presidency will be fine and all of the predicted apocalypse will fall short leaving the left with the credibility gap they deserve.Zarathud wrote:This is what Rip stated he WANTED since the beginning -- to watch America burn in a Dumpster fire and roast marshmallows. Because lulz, SJW and Hillary GODDAMN Clinton.Skinypupy wrote:Or are you just expecting him to continue to be the uber-troll, even as leader of the free world?
You can only warn people that tomorrow is the end of the world so long before they start ignoring you.
YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG DUDE.
Both of which have basically nothing to do with anything Trump has done.Rip wrote:Stocks doing well, unemployment down
Um...what? Speaking as a government contractor, I can assure you that this administration's entire goal is to replace every federal government employee or function with a private sector contractor...typically paying 3X, 5X, or 10X more in the process.Rip wrote:less federal employees/contractors,
Skinypupy wrote:Both of which have basically nothing to do with anything Trump has done.Rip wrote:Stocks doing well, unemployment down
Um...what? Speaking as a government contractor, I can assure you that this administration's entire goal is to replace every federal government employee or function with a private sector contractor...typically paying 3X, 5X, or 10X more in the process.Rip wrote:less federal employees/contractors,
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/te ... 13000-yearIn December 2016, the federal government employed 2,819,000 people. In September, according to the preliminary numbers released today by BLS, it employed 2,806,000—a decline of 13,000 people employed by the federal government.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/12/news/ec ... index.htmlThe number of contract workers employed by the U.S. government more than doubled from 1999 to 2010, according to calculations by Paul Light, a professor of public service at New York University and author of "The True Size of Government."