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Paingod wrote:I hope that in every future event where "Past Presidents" convene, he's not invited. I want whoever takes office next to make it their first step to say "Okay, here's a big list of everything Trump did. Reverse it" on day one. I want them to apologize to the world for our country's behavior in electing this narcissistic and dangerous moron and promise we'll do better for everyone.

I want to feel like I'm part of the country that can lead the free world, not a laughingstock nation that's trying to drive backwards down an escalator that's pushing us up towards progress.

Captain Caveman wrote:Every choice he makes is in service of his bottomless need to feel powerful and respected. His obsession with nukes is absolutely terrifying... he seems determined to provoke NK into an attack so he can justify laying waste to them.

I’m starting to fear that it’ll be a minor miracle if his presidency ends without an enormous calamity happening.

"General Kelly and Secretary Mattis have had conversations about if Trump lunged for the nuclear football, what would they do? Would they tackle him?"

malchior wrote:I literally can only hope that we get a praetorian guard response like mad emperors of old if that happens.

With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License? Bad for country!

Holman wrote:Here's the president of the United States casually threatening to shut down the media for criticizing him.

Max Peck wrote:

GreenGoo wrote:Mensa has come out and offered to host the IQ tests. Just FYI.

Oh, he was just joking.

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders later insisted that Trump’s comment was “a joke and nothing more than that.”

“The president certainly never implied that the secretary of state was not incredibly intelligent,” Sanders said in Tuesday afternoon’s news briefing. She added that Trump has “100 percent confidence” in Tillerson and admonished reporters for taking the president’s comment so seriously.

“Maybe you guys should get a sense of humor and try it sometime,” she quipped.

tgb wrote:

Holman wrote:Here's the president of the United States casually threatening to shut down the media for criticizing him.

Nixon tried that. Ask him how it went.

Holman wrote:Here's the president of the United States casually threatening to shut down the media for criticizing him.

Holman wrote:Here's the president of the United States casually threatening to shut down the media for criticizing him.

@waltshaub wrote:At what point? At the point when we cease to be a democracy.

(CNN)Former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page told CNN Monday he is going to plead the Fifth Amendment to keep from turning over a "vast array" of documents the Senate Intelligence committee requested, which he said is "beyond the charter" of the inquiry.
But Page demanded an opportunity to testify publicly before the panel, saying he offered to appear November 1 at the committee's open hearing on Russian attempts to influence the election through social media.

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Kraken wrote:Trump is evidently a genius at manipulating people and crushing opponents. Even if that doesn't equate to IQ, it's a mistake to underestimate him.

He's no genius. It's just that rational people have no defense against being steamrolled by complete fabrication raining down like hellfire. While they're spending energy trying to rebut and counter the first lie, Trump is pushing out his 4th fresh one while wearing that big, fat signature shit-eating grin. He's not a genius, he's just a mudslide of shit with financial resources.

Kraken wrote:

Paingod wrote:

Kraken wrote:Trump is evidently a genius at manipulating people and crushing opponents. Even if that doesn't equate to IQ, it's a mistake to underestimate him.

He's no genius. It's just that rational people have no defense against being steamrolled by complete fabrication raining down like hellfire. While they're spending energy trying to rebut and counter the first lie, Trump is pushing out his 4th fresh one while wearing that big, fat signature shit-eating grin. He's not a genius, he's just a mudslide of shit with financial resources.

And yet, he succeeds, despite the predictions from the day he announced his campaign. Being better at bullying and bullshit than anybody else is its own kind of genius. Getting away with openly cheating and lying on a daily basis is its own kind of skill.

I still hope that it catches up with him in the end, but the days keep slipping by and the show, improbably enough, goes on.

LordMortis wrote:Can you plead the 5th and demand to testify?

LordMortis wrote:Can you plead the 5th to an SIC? Can you plead the 5th and demand to testify?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

(CNN)Former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page told CNN Monday he is going to plead the Fifth Amendment to keep from turning over a "vast array" of documents the Senate Intelligence committee requested, which he said is "beyond the charter" of the inquiry.
But Page demanded an opportunity to testify publicly before the panel, saying he offered to appear November 1 at the committee's open hearing on Russian attempts to influence the election through social media.

Holman wrote:Here's the president of the United States casually threatening to shut down the media for criticizing him.

LordMortis wrote:At least it wasn't

Trump: "It's frankly disgusting the way the press is free to write whatever they want to write."

Which I wouldn't have put past him.

Holman wrote:

Holman wrote:Here's the president of the United States casually threatening to shut down the media for criticizing him.

And he doubles down...

Holman wrote:

Holman wrote:

Holman wrote:Here's the president of the United States casually threatening to shut down the media for criticizing him.

And he doubles down...

Tripling down now. He's serious. He's floating the idea to see how it is received.

This is what the Founders feared.

hepcat wrote:Fox News perpetuated the conspiracy theory around Seth Rich’s murder. If they start pulling licenses, the Mangerine may not like what happens.

Pyperkub wrote: Rip - your take if Obama had done this with Fox/Fox News?

Not how it works. See here: https://www.fcc.gov/sites/default/files ... asting.pdf …

malchior wrote:NAFTA heading towards collapse. Trump would literally be the first President to be directly connected to a recession or possibly even a depression. This would be extremely destabilizing for business around the world and within the country. US Supply chains are structured around NAFTA. This is FUCKING INSANITY.

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Pyperkub wrote: Rip - your take if Obama had done this with Fox/Fox News?

We don't even have to be partisan about this.

What if LBJ (or Nixon) had done it with CBS or the Washington Post? What if William McKinley had done it with William Randolph Hearst, or Andrew Johnson with Horace Greeley?

History would judge them as enemies of American freedom. History will do the same to Trump.

Late each night, Rafael Surillo Ruiz, the mayor of a town with one of Puerto Rico’s most critical ports, drives for miles on darkened roads, easing around downed power lines and crumpled tree branches — to check his email.

At the wheel of his “guagua”— local slang for an SUV — he sometimes finds a spotty cellphone signal on a highway overpass, and there he sits, often for hours, scrolling through messages. During the day, with no working landline and no Internet access, he operates more like a 19th-century mayor of Yabucoa, orchestrating the city’s business in an information vacuum, dispatching notes scrawled on slips of paper — about problems such as balky generators and misdirected water deliveries — that he hands to runners.

On the other side of the mayor’s favorite overpass spot, one of the generators at the area’s biggest hospital has collapsed from exhaustion, and the frazzled staff have stopped admitting new patients. Deeper into the island’s mountainous interior, thirsty Puerto Ricans draw drinking water from the mud-caked crevices of roadside rock formations and bathe in creeks too small to have names.

“We feel completely abandoned here,” ­Surillo Ruiz said with a heavy sigh.

It has been three weeks since Hurricane Maria savaged Puerto Rico, and life in the capital city of San Juan inches toward something that remotely resembles a new, uncomfortable form of normalcy. Families once again loll on the shaded steps of the Mercado de Santurce traditional market on a Sunday afternoon, and a smattering of restaurants and stores open their doors along sidewalks still thick with debris and tangled power lines.

But much of the rest of the island lies in the chokehold of a turgid, frustrating and perilous slog toward recovery.

Pyperkub wrote:

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Holman wrote:Here's the president of the United States casually threatening to shut down the media for criticizing him.

And he doubles down...

Tripling down now. He's serious. He's floating the idea to see how it is received.

This is what the Founders feared.

Rip - your take if Obama had done this with Fox/Fox News?

Rip wrote:Haven't got a clue.

He would have been hailed by people criticizing Trump for doing it and condemned by those applauding Trump? That would be my guess.

Skinypupy wrote:

Rip wrote:Haven't got a clue.

He would have been hailed by people criticizing Trump for doing it and condemned by those applauding Trump? That would be my guess.

Let's ask the question more directly. You cool with the POTUS threatening to shut down media outlets because they say mean things about him?