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Punisher wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:21 pm Correct me if im wring, but i th8nk we discussed this here before and the general consensus was that raw milk is actually bad for you right?

Punisher wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:12 am Ok. I apologize if this was already answered in the ither thread.

1. Is there any true benefit to drinkning raw milk atcall? If so, what in layman's terms.

2. If 1 is no, whats the worst realistic common thing that can happen? Im not talking about something like death unless its actually a high percentage.
IE. Desth is in 2% of all cases and bloody moses is in 45% of all cases. In this, the bloody nose would be the m9st commin worst symptoms because its more likely even though death is more severe. Lets say a ranking on things thst are 15% or higher nut we can mention things lower with a note that they are less common.

3. If yhe answr to 1 is no then why the big desire to make it legal in thevfirst place?

4. Whichvside is pushing this? Dems, Reps, or both?

5. Is this basically cow>bottle>market. nothing in between each step?

If we look back to just before World War II, in 1938, it was estimated that milkborne outbreaks constituted 25% of all disease outbreaks (related to food/water) in the United States. ... Today, tuberculosis is a forgotten disease in the United States because of the success of eradication programs and the implementation of milk pasteurization.
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During pasteurization, there is no significant change in the nutritional quality of milk.16 Pasteurization does not cause any change in protein quality; minor levels (<7%) of denaturation of whey proteins have been reported due to pasteurization, but protein denaturation has no impact on protein nutritional quality. Pasteurization does not cause any change in the concentrations of minerals; minerals are very heat stable. Pasteurization may cause very minor losses (<10%) of vitamin C, folate (vitamin B9), vitamin B12, vitamin B6, and thiamine (vitamin B1). Of these vitamins, milk is an excellent source of only vitamin B12
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One of the claims made about raw milk is that it alleviates lactose intolerance. A recent randomized controlled study found that raw milk failed to reduce lactose malabsorption or lactose intolerance symptoms compared with pasteurized milk among adults positive for lactose malabsorption.
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Some media reports claim that raw milk is healthy because of the presence of “good bacteria.” ... key probiotic bacteria like Bifidobacteria or Lactobacillus acidophilus should be present only at quite low levels in raw bovine milk, as they do not compete well with the more common types of lactic acid bacteria. Instead Bifidobacteria are found at high numbers in the gastrointestinal tract of cows and humans, and the presence of Bifidobacteria in raw milk has been used as possible indicator of fecal contamination. When probiotic cultures are used in commercial products like yogurt, it is considered highly desirable that (a) the specific probiotic strain used was originally isolated from a human source (not from animals like cows), and (b) the specific strain conveys proven health benefits when used at high levels (ie, millions of colony forming units per milliliter). None of these conditions are met with any fecal contamination of raw milk by probiotic bacteria.

John A. Lucey, PhD, is a professor of food science at the University of Wisconsin–Madison and director of the Wisconsin Center for Dairy Research, College of Agriculture and Life Sciences, University of Wisconsin-Madison. His research is on the chemistry and technology of dairy products and on the properties of food proteins. He has published around more than 100 peer-reviewed articles and more than 21 book chapters. He received a BS in Food Science and a PhD in Food Chemistry, both from University College Cork (Ireland).

Unagi wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:18 pm bottles the mind.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:45 am

Unagi wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:18 pm bottles the mind.

Raskin: "Are there college presidents, by the way, who looked the other way when there was sexual abuse of college wrestling team members? ... are we interested in that now that we are superintending higher education in America"

LordMortis wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:47 pm I really do like Raskin a speaker. I don't know what he does as a legislator but his speeches nail it every. single. time.

Trump: All I know about magnets is this, give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that’s the end of the magnets

At a recent rally in Mason City, Iowa, the former president went on a rant about the frailty of magnets while complaining about the Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier.

Simply put: The ship has an electromagnetic aircraft launch system that relies on very large magnets.

"They had a $900 million cost over on these stupid electric catapults that didn't work. They had almost a billion dollar cost over on the magnetic elevators," he said. "Think of it, magnets. Now all I know about magnets is this: Give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that's the end of the magnets."

That is, of course, not how magnets work. They work just fine underwater.

hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:42 pm I found a bit more on it. Apparently he was talking about cost overruns on an aircraft carrier.

At a recent rally in Mason City, Iowa, the former president went on a rant about the frailty of magnets while complaining about the Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier.

Simply put: The ship has an electromagnetic aircraft launch system that relies on very large magnets.

"They had a $900 million cost over on these stupid electric catapults that didn't work. They had almost a billion dollar cost over on the magnetic elevators," he said. "Think of it, magnets. Now all I know about magnets is this: Give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that's the end of the magnets."

That is, of course, not how magnets work. They work just fine underwater.

That does nothing to diminish the stupidity of his belief that water disables magnetism though.

hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:25 pm Thanks for the info. In doing some more digging, there does seem to be a reliability issue with the electromagnetic catapults vs. the steam catapults. But it has nothing to do with them getting wet, I believe.

hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:56 pm Are you referring to Trump's hatred of magnets and their assumed inability to work when wet? Or the linked article I put in my post which states that there does seem to be a reliability issue with EMALS? The former has little to do with the latter.

Former President Donald Trump shared a bizarre fan-made video on Truth Social, which declared that he was divinely chosen to lead the country.

"And on June 14, 1946, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, 'I need a caretaker.' So God gave us Trump," the video starts.

The narrator goes on to frame Trump as a messianic figure who was created by God to "fight the Marxists" and "call out the fake news for their tongues as sharp as a serpent's.

hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:19 pm That's been making the rounds on sites since its release. It's truly baffling how anyone can watch that and not cringe. But Trumpers watch it and immediately try to figure out where Trump hides his angel wings.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:22 pm

hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:19 pm That's been making the rounds on sites since its release. It's truly baffling how anyone can watch that and not cringe. But Trumpers watch it and immediately try to figure out where Trump hides his angel wings.

I'm sure the faithful will say that he doesn't need to be righteous to be sent by god. Look at David. In fact, I remember when Trump was running and that was the exact argument many of his apologists made when it came to his philandering, slumlording, greed, rapey ways, etc. "Hey, god's divine sword of MAGA doesn't have to be perfect. Look at David!"

Rome, Italy, 2024.
State shame. #AccaLarentia

Five teenagers of the Youth Front, the youth wing of the Italian Social Movement, a far-right and neo-fascist party, were ambushed while leaving the local party headquarters, and two of the teens (13 years old and 17 years old) were killed. The killings caused riots that same day, in which another MSI sympathiser was killed in clashes with police. Commemorations for the Acca Larentia killings take place each year and are controversial. As of 2024, opposition parties said such displays of pro-fascist sentiment was outlawed and demanded an investigation.

Alefroth wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:56 pm There's really no better way to describe her than cultist.

hepcat wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:46 pm What has Biden said that makes you think he supports fascism?