Octopus Overlords

stessier wrote:Keeping us on tenderhooks is poor form.

tenterhooks

Kraegor wrote:killing Chaos is a moo point

Cowthena?

Chaosraven wrote:

Bakhtosh wrote:If six is dead, as you claim, and #10 is unconverted, we don't have a problem.

-Six or Baltar find each other, Six finds #10: Assassination will not be stopped. The humans will somehow know the next day that they have a traitor in their midst though if Baltar. Will not know if #10 was converted.

Only 6 can activate 10.

Negative:

Cylon #10 - 1 crew is a hidden Cylon (does not know they are cylon) if in the search for Baltar they find hidden cylon#10 then cylon is activated and have access to other cylons (#7 if contacted) and the search for Baltar stops. But Baltar may continue to search for six. If six is dead then the other cylons may continue the search for #10. Cylon #10 will scan as cylon by Athena at all times. Cylon #10 counts as good as long as unconverted. (Athena and Baltar cannot be #10). #10 loses any special abilities of the character he/she was before activation.

This is a sweet ruleset. Maybe it's my favorite.

stessier wrote:You, my friend, have quite the ego.
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It was an alphabetical list. Quote the text, the only space is caused by the horse graphic.

phpbb3ubbwned!

Scoop20906 wrote:

Remus West wrote:

Scoop20906 wrote:

Grundbegriff wrote:No idea what's goin' on, but this looks like the popular thing to do:
 Scoop20906 
 

Please excuse me but this annoys me a bit.

Why? As a normal he would have no extra information to work with. One person seems as guilty as the next. It is the Chaosraven principle....hang them all high and let the 12 gods sort them out.

Because I believe that if Grund was reading the game he would not vote for me based on this "evidence".

For the record, I most certainly would vote against you based on that evidence!

Watching Grund get caught up is awesome.

He talks to dead people...

Lassr wrote:Bakhtosh throws up his hands in frustration. "Frak it" he screams. "I've never seen so many people trying to help the Cylons win! You people need to use your brains. Frak! Some of you need brains!"
With that Bakhtosh pulls a piece of Austin's dried brains off his face and shoves it in stessier's face. "Here, use this!" Bakhtosh turns and storms from the room.

Unagi wrote:

Scoop20906 wrote:I see Unagi's projection.

What's that mean?

You can stop hunting, Baltar. Six is dead.

stessier wrote:

Kraegor wrote: And the best way to keep it air tight is to make certain apollo stays quiet or his alive-atude remains in question.

Dude, I'm pretty sure Apollo is dead at this point. If he didn't come out to denounce me, why do you think your logic is going to get him to magically appear?

Slick

Lassr wrote:0640

An explosion rocks the ship. The survivors pour from their rooms and head toward the location of the blast. They find the room, the door is completely blown off it’s frame and is lying twisted in the hallway. “Who’s room was this?” Revhempus yells above the commotion. Unagi speaks up, “It was Remus West’s room.”
“What the hell was he doing in there?” Before anyone could respond purge runs up, out of breath, he says “I found kraegor. He’s been shot and he’s dead.”
“Frak! Obviously the Cylons are still active. Let’s get to the meeting room and get to work.”

I hope I'm not posting these interactions while dead.

My giant mug of Costa Rican coffee has run dry and my bladder is suffering from severe Kepler Syndrome, but it looks as if I'm getting to the good part so I'm trying to resist the urge long enough to see where things actually stand.

At the moment, I have the impression that it's pretty obvious what's going on.

Austin and Unagi killed Sean not knowing he was 10. Chaosraven discovered Austin. Scoop is 7 and Unagi 'noticed' his code both to seek confirmation and to secure trust.

Without having read the last few pages, I'm 95% sure that Scoop is #7 and only 70% sure that Unagi is Cavil. On the theory that Unagi isn't Cavil, I have another suspect.

But permit me to finish reading....

Chaosraven wrote:Ok, so Logic dictates Sean was Cavil, as Austin was Six.
Rules clarification bears out that #10 was not converted prior to last night (under Found or others Dead rule for #7 Bomb).

I see here that my feint with Unagi cannot work. Nevermind.

Sorry.

Unagi wrote:Protecting mipe or Grund would be a safe alternate if Starbuck just protected Chaos last night without being killed.

Correct. And just let me say that I'm 100% sure that Chaosraven is Athena; if he's an evil Cylon, he deserves to win and I'll celebrate his victory.

BTW-- nice dual kill last night, Scoop.

Reading....

mipe wrote:GODDAMNIT!!! This is the reason why I shouldn't be on internet if I have a small fever... Sowwy grund, I didn't mean you, but the-one-who-claims-athena-but-my-short-time-memory-is-completely-vanished-so-i-dont-remember-who-sorry-sorry-sorry-sorry-sorry-sorry....

Don't mind him. He's from Barcelona.

Right. A few observations.

First, Chaosraven (IIRC) has already mentioned the reason a Specialist might (for now) deny being a Specialist: to open the possibility that an evildoer might falsely claim to be one.

Second, don't bother trying to deduce the identity of Specialist #3 (for now). I'm Specialist #2, and I can tell you (a) that he's alive, and (b) that I've left him the means to confirm himself should I happen to die by night, and (c) it's up to the Cylon(s) to decide whether I'm bluffing about (a) and (b).

With a living Baltar resistant to conversion-- assuming we have such a thing-- the loss of me wouldn't blind us anyhow. A hiccup in the autopsy biz is a smal price to pay for scientific inquiry, no?

Third, I don't understand why Scoop is still alive. I was just toying around with Unagi, which is why I hedged so much; I wanted to provoke certain reactions and see who would join in framing him. Not an unusual play for me, but the fact that the explosion confirms that Sean was Cavil pretty much preempts such maneuvers.

It's really down to redrun, RevHempus, and Scoop. I suspect 10 hasn't been found, but who knows. Odds are that lynching Scoop will end the game; if it doesn't, then at least we'll know exactly where things stand. Then it's merely a game of attrition, no? And we win in any event.

I'd test 'em in this order: Scoop, redrun, RevHempus, Unagi.

Your mileage may vary.

 Scoop20906 
 

Grundbegriff wrote:

Unagi wrote:Protecting mipe or Grund would be a safe alternate if Starbuck just protected Chaos last night without being killed.

Correct. And just let me say that I'm 100% sure that Chaosraven is Athena; if he's an evil Cylon, he deserves to win and I'll celebrate his victory.

That's what I said!

Unagi wrote:The Claims:
Chaosraven: Athena (if not, he's got serious balls and should be rewarded)

Grundbegriff wrote:I'd test 'em in this order: Scoop, redrun, RevHempus, Unagi.

Woot. That's my order too.

Mind if I join you?
 Scoop 
 

I should add: that's the order in which I'd kill 'em. Athena should scan 'em in reverse order, starting with you.

Meet in the middle; it's the most efficient way.

Scoop20906 wrote:Scoop walks into the conference room from his cabin rubbing the sleep out of his eyes looking cranky...

Scoop notices most of the group sits around the conference table quietly discussing the possibilities of the day. Mipe is curled up in the fetal position under the conference table mumbling in his sleep.

Scoop asks, "Does anyone hear that sound?"

Bahktosh looks up and says "What sound?"

"I don't know. But, I keep kind of hearing something like a ... but then it's gone.", responds scoop.

Unagi looks at Scoop skeptically, "Is this another one of your tricks? Like that code you scratched out on the wall of your bunk?"

"No one hears anything?", asks scoop again tapping his ear.

"Go sell crazy somewhere else, scoop." purge remarks, "were all full here."

Scoop shakes his head and walks back to his bunk.

There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke

Grundbegriff wrote:I should add: that's the order in which I'd kill 'em. Athena should scan 'em in reverse order, starting with you.

Meet in the middle; it's the most efficient way.

I agree with this too, I've been asking to be scanned for quite some time now.

Nice to have you back Grund.

Unagi wrote:

Grundbegriff wrote:I should add: that's the order in which I'd kill 'em. Athena should scan 'em in reverse order, starting with you.

Meet in the middle; it's the most efficient way.

I agree with this too, I've been asking to be scanned for quite some time now.

Nice to have you back Grund.

All the heavy lifting was already done. I have little to contribute.

Sean bailed on the game-- uncool when you're Cavil. No wonder Austin longed for a reroll. Incommunicado, he made the most of it. But what can you do against being outed by the Seer? Especially if your teammate provides you no cover?

We know Seven was never discovered by Cavil/Six, since we never had a deathless night. We also know Seven is alive, since the bomb went off. We also know that Seven's in charge; if Cavil/Six were alive (and Sean were Ten) and Cavil/Six hadn't yet found Seven (since no deathless nights have passed), then Seven wouldn't have had authority to set off the explosion.

It's impossible for Sean to be Ten and for Cavil to be alive. So the only question is whether Seven is alone or accompanied by a (somewhat surprised) Ten.

Please note that anyone in this set could be Ten: {redrun, RevHempus, Unagi, purge, Bakhtosh}. Neither mipe nor I can be Ten, since we've both been scanned as Human. Scoop could also be Ten, I suppose, if he's not Seven; but since we're about to kill him, that's a moot point.

Apollo is probably dead; he would've contested stessier's brief Apollonian hint otherwise. So Apollo must've been Semaj or Mr Bubbles. Claimants should be tried by fire.

Unagi wrote:

Grundbegriff wrote:I'd test 'em in this order: Scoop, redrun, RevHempus, Unagi.

Woot. That's my order too.

Mind if I join you?
 Scoop 
 

+1  Scoop 
 

Grundbegriff wrote:
Please note that anyone in this set could be Ten: {redrun, RevHempus, Unagi, purge, Bakhtosh}. Neither mipe nor I can be Ten, since we've both been scanned as Human.

Not Bakh, he's my 3rd Scan (Human)

 Scoop 
 

Chaosraven wrote:

Grundbegriff wrote:
Please note that anyone in this set could be Ten: {redrun, RevHempus, Unagi, purge, Bakhtosh}. Neither mipe nor I can be Ten, since we've both been scanned as Human.

Not Bakh, he's my 3rd Scan (Human)

Sorry. You're right.

Revised observation: Ten could be any of {redrun, RevHempus, Unagi, purge}

Well, glad to see Grund is back and glad to see we have good odds of winning. I'm not a cylon but I do think the strategy is sound. My bet is the Cylon #7 is Rev. I won't say who I think Cylon #10 is since there is a chance he still hasn't been activated. Remember, kill the quiets so you don't have to deal with them at the end of the game.

I did consider voting for myself at this point but I didn't want to incurr the wrath of Remus West (even posthumorously) so I will leave it to you guyz.

Fun game Lassr! Thanks for running it again. I will watch from the netherworld.

Grundbegriff wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:

Grundbegriff wrote:
Please note that anyone in this set could be Ten: {redrun, RevHempus, Unagi, purge, Bakhtosh}. Neither mipe nor I can be Ten, since we've both been scanned as Human.

Not Bakh, he's my 3rd Scan (Human)

Sorry. You're right.

Revised observation: Ten could be any of {redrun, RevHempus, Unagi, purge}

Revised Revised observation: Ten could be any of {redrun, RevHempus, Unagi, purge, Scoop20906}

Goodbye Scoop!

 Scoop the whoop 
 

Scoop20906 wrote:Revised Revised observation: Ten could be any of {redrun, RevHempus, Unagi, purge, Scoop20906}

That would be funny!

If you turned out to be human (or latently Cybernetic), I guess my top suspect then would be Unagi. Even so, I think we should kill from the left and scan from the right.

Am I remembering/interpreting correctly that when Athena goes under deep cover to self-protect, she cannot scan?

What is the argument at this point for hiding Baltar and Starbuck and Tory?

 Scoop 
 


We should have done this yesterday.

Grundbegriff wrote:
What is the argument at this point for hiding Baltar and Starbuck and Tory?

Beats the hell out of me.

Since it doesn't change anything at this point,

I'm Starbuck.

Bakhtosh wrote:Since it doesn't change anything at this point,

I'm Starbuck.

I'm not a cylon.

Then it's time to play chicken with the one(s) left. Round and round she goes, who she protects, nobody knows.

Bakhtosh wrote:Then it's time to play chicken with the one(s) left. Round and round she goes, who she protects, nobody knows.

You do realize that if you are Starbuck you could have done that WITHOUT announcing your role. Right?

Lassr, please make my death interesting. I'd like a space funeral like from Wing Commander III. Grund can give my euology and Unagi can cry and say, "I wish I had take more time to get to know him." Bahktosh can turn traitor after hearing "Heart of the Tiger".

It's more fun this way though. =)

And despite my requests, we still haven't outed any of our other specials. We need to know what roles are left out there. Maybe they were hiding to give Starbuck some room to hide in. Now I've removed that incentive.

I was a proven human. The cylons were likely to tag someone from that group anyway. Nothing's changed that. Mipe, Grund, Me.

Scoop20906 ------------------ revhempus
Unagi ------------------ scoop
Chaosraven ------------------ scoop
Grundbegriff ------------------ scoop
RevHempus ------------------ scoop
redrun ------------------
mipe ------------------ scoop
Bakhtosh ------------------ scoop
purge ------------------ scoop
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Scoop20906 --- 7
RevHempus --- 1
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Majority is 5

Majority plus 2 has been reached.
Voting closed.