Too Soon To Start Thinking About 2020? No, it's 2020!

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:09 pm

hepcat wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:54 pm
Kraken wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:56 pm
At some point he's going to have to stand on his record as the mayor of a small city with a murder rate higher than Chicago's, a poverty rate exceeding 20%, and a median income well below the national average. Has South Bend improved during his tenure? IDK, but his credentials seem pretty unimpressive.
His record ain’t too shabby.

Rome wasn’t built in a day, and a city as down as South Bend was isn’t going to come back over night. But it sounds like Buttigieg is getting there. It might not be as fast as some woukd like, but for those who can see the reality of a situation it’s a success I would say.

Alright, that's better than expected. Thanks for posting.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:55 am

In a move sure to make me in the minority in this country, I hereby announce my intentions NOT to run for president in 2020.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:47 am

pr0ner wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:55 am In a move sure to make me in the minority in this country, I hereby announce my intentions NOT to run for president in 2020.

I will gladly be your not-running partner.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:54 am

We're all still up for a post in the Trump administration though. At the rate it's cycling, we should all get a shot by 2020.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:57 am

If selected, I will not serve.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:10 am

Man, now all this opposition research that I've been doing for months on pr0ner and Isgrimnur will be wasted.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:15 am

El Guapo wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:10 am Man, now all this opposition research that I've been doing for months on pr0ner and Isgrimnur will be wasted.

It will come in handy when they run for Forum Moderator.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:19 am

I volunteer as tribute! I mean, well, I think it is too early to rule out a 2020 run is what I mean to say.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:21 am

El Guapo wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:10 am Man, now all this opposition research that I've been doing for months on pr0ner and Isgrimnur will be wasted.

Issie: The

candidate.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:26 am

Inappropriate BAM-ing has been the downfall of many a politician.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:13 pm

Here's the first promo video for Trump 2020. Yep, it's exactly as absurd as you think it might be.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 0556090368

When one of the first things you feel the need point out in your campaign video is how often people say you're racist, that might indicate a problem.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:17 am

Well, I'm convinced. Sorry guys, MAGA!

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:06 am

Lol copyright violation. I wonder who did it - Hans Zimmer or Warners.

Exodor · Post by **Exodor** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:37 am

pr0ner wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:06 am Lol copyright violation. I wonder who did it - Hans Zimmer or Warners.

Warner Brothers

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:42 am

hepcat wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:54 am We're all still up for a post in the Trump administration though. At the rate it's cycling, we should all get a shot by 2020.

Oooh, can I be Secret Service Director? I have no experience in law enforcement but I have played tactical wargames before, which ought to make me perfect for the job. And if I fail in the mission to protect the president, some will consider me a hero.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:17 am

But you have to work for Trump...

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:34 pm

If your job is protecting the Trump klan, why would you wanna be good at your job?

(which is essentially what Jeff just wrote, I guess)

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:49 pm

Exodor wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:37 am
pr0ner wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:06 am Lol copyright violation. I wonder who did it - Hans Zimmer or Warners.
Warner Brothers

Would have been better if it were Zimmer himself. But still. Glad to see Trump get another copyright takedown.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:28 pm

Sounds like Nikki Haley is one step further along the road to running in 2020

St. Martin’s Press announced Wednesday that Haley’s book, currently untitled, will come out this fall. According to the publisher, the 47-year-old Haley will write about her experiences as ambassador in 2017-18 and her six years before that as governor, sharing “the consequential actions, decisions, confrontations, and behind-the-scenes negotiations that shaped national and world events.

Haley also will offer “deeply personal” insights and the “challenges” she faced as a woman during her time in government.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:26 pm

Pyperkub wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:28 pm Sounds like Nikki Haley is one step further along the road to running in 2020

St. Martin’s Press announced Wednesday that Haley’s book, currently untitled, will come out this fall. According to the publisher, the 47-year-old Haley will write about her experiences as ambassador in 2017-18 and her six years before that as governor, sharing “the consequential actions, decisions, confrontations, and behind-the-scenes negotiations that shaped national and world events.

Haley also will offer “deeply personal” insights and the “challenges” she faced as a woman during her time in government.

There was talk sometime back that Trump had discussed dumping Pence for Haley in 2020.

Unless Pence could be persuaded to claim illness or something, I don't see how this wouldn't annoy the Evangelicals.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:31 pm

Holman wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:26 pm
Pyperkub wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:28 pm Sounds like Nikki Haley is one step further along the road to running in 2020

St. Martin’s Press announced Wednesday that Haley’s book, currently untitled, will come out this fall. According to the publisher, the 47-year-old Haley will write about her experiences as ambassador in 2017-18 and her six years before that as governor, sharing “the consequential actions, decisions, confrontations, and behind-the-scenes negotiations that shaped national and world events.

Haley also will offer “deeply personal” insights and the “challenges” she faced as a woman during her time in government.

There was talk sometime back that Trump had discussed dumping Pence for Haley in 2020.

Unless Pence could be persuaded to claim illness or something, I don't see how this wouldn't annoy the Evangelicals.

It's hard for me to imagine Evangelical leaders doing anything about it, or even publicly complaining, to be honest.

Though I'm not sure what Trump would really get out of dumping Pence for Haley.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:39 pm

El Guapo wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:31 pm
Though I'm not sure what Trump would really get out of dumping Pence for Haley.

“See, I hired a woman as my VP, which means I can’t be a completely mysoginistic garbage person. Checkmate libtards!”

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:41 pm

El Guapo wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:31 pm
Holman wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:26 pm
Pyperkub wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:28 pm Sounds like Nikki Haley is one step further along the road to running in 2020

St. Martin’s Press announced Wednesday that Haley’s book, currently untitled, will come out this fall. According to the publisher, the 47-year-old Haley will write about her experiences as ambassador in 2017-18 and her six years before that as governor, sharing “the consequential actions, decisions, confrontations, and behind-the-scenes negotiations that shaped national and world events.

Haley also will offer “deeply personal” insights and the “challenges” she faced as a woman during her time in government.

There was talk sometime back that Trump had discussed dumping Pence for Haley in 2020.

Unless Pence could be persuaded to claim illness or something, I don't see how this wouldn't annoy the Evangelicals.
It's hard for me to imagine Evangelical leaders doing anything about it, or even publicly complaining, to be honest.

Though I'm not sure what Trump would really get out of dumping Pence for Haley.

More likely to be assassinated? Haley seems a lot less objectionable than Pence, even being from SC.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:35 pm

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/sta ... 3935501314

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:12 pm

I'm largely clueless when it comes to superhero movies, but this thread is hilarious:

https://twitter.com/chandlerjdean/statu ... 7895799809

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:26 pm

Defiant wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:12 pm I'm largely clueless when it comes to superhero movies, but this thread is hilarious:

https://twitter.com/chandlerjdean/statu ... 7895799809

Premise is lame.

Execution is awesome!

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:11 pm

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/sta ... 1588982784

Those are better numbers for Warren than I would have thought, given the rumors that she was struggling to raise money.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:53 am

Trump: $30 million

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:03 am

28 million of which will be used to purchase a painting of Trump for Mar-a-Lago.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:41 am

coopasonic wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:53 am Trump: $30 million

Democrats: $67.5M
Republicans: $30M

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:51 am

ImLawBoy wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:41 am
coopasonic wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:53 am Trump: $30 million
Democrats: $67.5M
Republicans: $30M

Once again Democrat Party spending is out of control! Sad!

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:39 pm

Bear in mind that Trump faces no primary challenge (yet) and can keep building his war chest while the Democrats duke it out. He intends to have $1 billion on hand when the Dem nominee emerges bleeding, bruised, and broke. And contrary to what you'd expect, most of Trump's Q1 fundraising came from small donors -- the median contribution was something like $35. (I think Trump's $1B goal includes RNC funds, which outpaced his campaign.)

NickAragua · Post by **NickAragua** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:08 pm

Kraken wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:39 pm Bear in mind that Trump faces no primary challenge (yet) and can keep building his war chest while the Democrats duke it out.

Well, here we go: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1RR296

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:39 pm

Nice. Weld has about as much chance of displacing Trump as I do, but maybe he can at least make him defend, and maybe he'll encourage other contenders to jump in. Republicans do need a Plan B in case Trump's age, diet, and inactivity catch up with him in the next year and a half. (Hey, a man can dream.)

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:43 pm

Seth Moulton jumps in. America shrugs.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:31 pm

I find myself leaning again towards Warren. I think reports of her political demise have been greatly exaggerated.

Her strong and clear stance on impeachment is impressive, but even more so is that she has been putting out policy proposals ever since this thing began. While the media swoons over Mayor Pete's rise or the expected Biden/Sanders feud, Warren acts like the candidate who knows her job will be to shovel out Trump's shit and then fix the fucking barn.

Buttigieg's eight languages are impressive, but they won't address income inequality or tighten government ethics. Warren is pretty clearly the smartest candidate in the race. We're going to need that after President Stupid.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:55 pm

Kraken wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:39 pm Nice. Weld has about as much chance of displacing Trump as I do, but maybe he can at least make him defend, and maybe he'll encourage other contenders to jump in. Republicans do need a Plan B in case Trump's age, diet, and inactivity catch up with him in the next year and a half. (Hey, a man can dream.)

If the House holds public hearings on all the corruption, lies and crimes, he'll have a much better chance in the Primaries.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:57 pm

Holman wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:31 pm I find myself leaning again towards Warren. I think reports of her political demise have been greatly exaggerated.

Her strong and clear stance on impeachment is impressive, but even more so is that she has been putting out policy proposals ever since this thing began. While the media swoons over Mayor Pete's rise or the expected Biden/Sanders feud, Warren acts like the candidate who knows her job will be to shovel out Trump's shit and then fix the fucking barn.

Buttigieg's eight languages are impressive, but they won't address income inequality or tighten government ethics. Warren is pretty clearly the smartest candidate in the race. We're going to need that after President Stupid.

Warren/Buttigieg would be pretty attractive.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:06 pm

Holman wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:31 pm I find myself leaning again towards Warren. I think reports of her political demise have been greatly exaggerated.

My fear is that the one thing that got Trump elected: The drummed up hatred for Clinton, will end up being easily transferred to Warren as soon as the coals are stoked for those that are so inclined.
Give them a face and name they are not pre-primed to hate.

Buttigieg, I'm super wishing it was him.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:43 pm

The one thing I do like about Warren over Buttigieg is A) She's female - we are way overdue for a woman in the White House, and B) She's a DC veteran who knows how to play the game.

Everybody screams for the outsider, but then like Trump they get into the office and don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. There's a reason companies hire people with experience and not random nutjobs off the street. It's going to take someone with political know-how to clean up the wreckage Trump has left behind. I love Mayor Pete, but is he going to be able to get anything done?

I used to be inclined that Warren had too much baggage, but let's face it - the right is going to make ANY candidate into Public Enemy #1 by any means necessary. Especially if it's a woman.

However, I'm up for just about ANY candidate at this point. I'd prefer it not be Biden or Sanders though. I've had enough with angry old white guys running this country.