Election integrity and the transfer of power

[hepcat]

I have claimed, for snacking purposes, the snickers bar in your grocery bag.

I have claimed, for driving purposes, the Miata in your garage.

I have claimed, for viewing purposes, season 2 of Golden Girls.

...this is how I talk now.

[Kurth]

i have never been on FB - didn't get a good feeling about it from the start. my social life has certainly taken a beating due to this, however.

FB has gone through an interesting evolution. When I first heard of it, it was Myspace for college students. Then after some time my brother in law heard about it and asked me what it was. By that point it was mostly being used to hook up, so that's what I told him. Then he told me the reason he asked was one of his close friends(married) was on it all the time lol. Oops, I wouldn't have described it that way if I had known why he was asking.

Somehow here in 2020 it's known for being used for political/conspiracy purposes. It just goes to show you can't really predict what purposes internet tools and services will wind up being used for as time goes on.

It's funny - my three teenagers all just think it's social media for old people. They and their friends won't go near FB with a 10 foot pole.

[LordMortis]

i have never been on FB - didn't get a good feeling about it from the start. my social life has certainly taken a beating due to this, however.

FB has gone through an interesting evolution. When I first heard of it, it was Myspace for college students. Then after some time my brother in law heard about it and asked me what it was. By that point it was mostly being used to hook up, so that's what I told him. Then he told me the reason he asked was one of his close friends(married) was on it all the time lol. Oops, I wouldn't have described it that way if I had known why he was asking.

Somehow here in 2020 it's known for being used for political/conspiracy purposes. It just goes to show you can't really predict what purposes internet tools and services will wind up being used for as time goes on.

when I started (sometime after Poking was a thing) it was primarily for public diary keeping, social planning, and pay to advance browser games. I even found myself sucked into Mafia for a bit. Almost instantly it migrated to bored housewives platform (which I am guessing was also for finding and hooking up with old flames and acquaintances, married or not) and it was the place to record your children and pets and then it was place for "memes" and personality assessments, like a giant collection of that guy who lived to forward emails that he thought were funny. Those memes all turned political in 2015. After succumbing to maintaining a mostly political news (without the memes) wall, it took my four years to turn the lights off.

I want my public dairy keeping and social planning back. I really enjoyed it back then.

[Holman]

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/stat ... 32289?s=20
https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/13 ... 53251?s=20

They're starting to realize that they're being hung out to dry.

So sad.

[noxiousdog]

They're starting to realize that they're being hung out to dry.

So sad.

We need to do everything we can to encourage a 3rd party run in 2024!

[hitbyambulance]

The judge is pissed:

https://www.newsandguts.com/postmaster- ... 87EumJA7-Y

Would love to see some jail time here.

[Smoove_B]

They're starting to realize that they're being hung out to dry.
So sad.

It has to be hard for them to realize that GOP voters in various states actively decided to elect GOP House or Senate members but ultimately voted for Biden instead.

[Holman]

They're starting to realize that they're being hung out to dry.
So sad.

It has to be hard for them to realize that GOP voters in various states actively decided to elect GOP House or Senate members but ultimately voted for Biden instead.

Matt Gaetz is out there declaring his loyalty, and he has just turned on Nikki Haley (who tweeted something bland about waiting for the lawful results) as a betrayer.

[Isgrimnur]

#LetThemFight

[malchior]

https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/stat ... 2734986241

[Little Raven]

Trump is about to get a hard lesson in who has been using who.

[Jaymann]

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/stat ... 32289?s=20
https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/13 ... 53251?s=20

They're starting to realize that they're being hung out to dry.

So sad.

Second tweet deleted. What was the gist?

[Zaxxon]

Another mini-Trump bitching.

[LordMortis]

https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/stat ... 2734986241

I thought she put forth a cogent picture of ignoring the law (if true) and reasonable desire for bipartisan monitoring (if there is none) right up until " of which the President has nominated three justices - to step in and do something. And hopefully Amy Coney Barrett will come through" wherein their cogent case sounded like the SC stepping in is cause for rioting in the streets. Why would she add that?

Matt Gaetz is out there declaring his loyalty, and he has just turned on Nikki Haley (who tweeted something bland about waiting for the lawful results) as a betrayer.

I get that without a real mandate (and to be clear, I am depressed that this election is not a mandate as they love to say)...without a real mandate Biden in 2021 would have to work with a whole lotta people I could never work with but if Geatz and Nunez and the like continue to wield control and have fucked up large portion at the table, then I got nothin'. Cause I don't see path to say we're recovering.

[malchior]

https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/stat ... 2734986241

I thought she put forth a cogent picture of ignoring the law (if true) and reasonable desire for bipartisan monitoring (if there is none) right up until " of which the President has nominated three justices - to step in and do something. And hopefully Amy Coney Barrett will come through" wherein their cogent case sounded like the SC stepping in is cause for rioting in the streets. Why would she add that?

The "if true" part is the problem. I saw other videos about what is happening. The lawyers are allowed in but they are whining that they can't stand where they want or making claims about how the election officials are positioning machines - I'm not going to dig it up but there is a video with Corey Lewandowski floating around where a woman was making these claims. It's all horse shit so the end statement is what this is about. They are trying to gin up some scenario where they can go try this thing out in court. And it won't happen. In the end, this is all performative to rile up a response.

[Holman]

Second tweet deleted. What was the gist?

It was Eric Trump complaining that the GOP isn't coming out to support Dad's claims of fraud.

[Holman]

They are trying to gin up some scenario where they can go try this thing out in court. And it won't happen. In the end, this is all performative to rile up a response.

Exactly this.

The desperate hope is that somehow it goes to the Supreme Court. Failing that, it's designed to generate unrest in the streets and delegitimize Biden's administration.

[pr0ner]

https://www.twitter.com/ZackBornstein/s ... 4907106304

[hepcat]

I had to look up the Lt. Governor of Pennsylvania. The man is practically a saint.

[malchior]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1324542639115554816

[Octavious]

Yup not terrifying at all. It's going to be a dark run for a long time.

[Isgrimnur]

I had to look up the Lt. Governor of Pennsylvania. The man is practically a saint.

Harlan Hill got kicked off of Fox News for a tweet about Harris.

[Grifman]

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/stat ... 99841?s=20

[Grifman]

Ok, this is very bad, very very bad:

https://twitter.com/VABVOX/status/13245 ... 59392?s=20

[LawBeefaroni]

Ok, this is very bad, very very bad:

https://twitter.com/VABVOX/status/13245 ... 59392?s=20

A television station has arrested two men?

Also,. yes, this is what will start happening. Did we expect anything different?

[Grifman]

Trump campaign trying to create an appearance of fraud:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-war ... hem-in-pa/

[malchior]

We have to assume Trump is watching Hannity's coup power hour, right? This is really irresponsible stuff.

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1324573069634080769

Edit: More craziness.

https://twitter.com/VABVOX/status/1324568477844316160

[malchior]

Super.

https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status ... 9267322880

[Smoove_B]

It's amazing to see so many GOP members that have apparently never lived through an election before. They're really doing to double down on those "legal votes", eh?

[malchior]

It's amazing to see so many GOP members that have apparently never lived through an election before. They're really doing to double down on those "legal votes", eh?

'Legal votes' is pretty much code for one party rule now. They've been spending this entire century de-legitimizing the Democratic party and refusing to share power. And I guess we just have to hope it doesn't spiral out of control.

[Smoove_B]

In case you were wondering if Ted Cruz is still a douche (he is)

https://twitter.com/Zac_Petkanas/status ... 7889417223

There are Republican observers at every location and you can literally watch the counting via web cam from your couch.

You are intentionally undermining American democracy with these lies.

This is shit they do in Venezuela.

Ted Cruz
I am angry.

The American people are right to be angry.

We need observers.

Now.

[malchior]

https://twitter.com/beckerdavidj/status ... 9390901248

[Jaymann]

In case you were wondering if Ted Cruz is still a douche (he is)

https://twitter.com/Zac_Petkanas/status ... 7889417223

There are Republican observers at every location and you can literally watch the counting via web cam from your couch.

You are intentionally undermining American democracy with these lies.

This is shit they do in Venezuela.

Ted Cruz
I am angry.

The American people are right to be angry.

We need observers.

Now.

He looks like the Frito Bandito.

[LordMortis]

We have to assume Trump is watching Hannity's coup power hour, right? This is really irresponsible stuff.

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1324573069634080769

Edit: More craziness.

https://twitter.com/VABVOX/status/1324568477844316160

Did Newt just say any GOP precinct that was not inspected by recognized Democrat lawyers needs to be tossed?

[Jaymann]

Trump's campaign has a hotline to report incidents of voter suppression! I can think of a few examples...

[Little Raven]

Trump's much touted "takeover" of the judiciary is bearing no fruit.

Federal judges have already begun to toss last-minute lawsuits brought by President Donald Trump's campaign, which has turned to attempting to litigate a victory as its electoral hopes dwindle.

The campaign, which has falsely alleged that Democrats are trying to "steal" the election by counting all the votes cast, has so far filed lawsuits in three states: Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Within hours, judges had thrown out the suits in Georgia and Michigan. The Supreme Court has already declined once to rule on the Pennsylvania case.

On Thursday, the campaign announced its intent to file a fourth suit in Nevada. It has also vowed to request a recount in Wisconsin, where Democratic nominee Joe Biden has what appears to be an unassailable 20,000-vote lead.

Election law experts called the suits frivolous and unlikely to make a difference.

"They're totally small potatoes," Jon Sherman, senior counsel at the Fair Elections Center, told Salon. "Each has been rejected so far, and honestly, I'd rather not give them any oxygen."

[$iljanus]

https://twitter.com/beckerdavidj/status ... 9390901248

As my brother in law would say, the truth is just someone's perspective...
(sigh)

[stessier]

Trump's much touted "takeover" of the judiciary is bearing no fruit.

Federal judges have already begun to toss last-minute lawsuits brought by President Donald Trump's campaign, which has turned to attempting to litigate a victory as its electoral hopes dwindle.

The campaign, which has falsely alleged that Democrats are trying to "steal" the election by counting all the votes cast, has so far filed lawsuits in three states: Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Within hours, judges had thrown out the suits in Georgia and Michigan. The Supreme Court has already declined once to rule on the Pennsylvania case.

On Thursday, the campaign announced its intent to file a fourth suit in Nevada. It has also vowed to request a recount in Wisconsin, where Democratic nominee Joe Biden has what appears to be an unassailable 20,000-vote lead.

Election law experts called the suits frivolous and unlikely to make a difference.

"They're totally small potatoes," Jon Sherman, senior counsel at the Fair Elections Center, told Salon. "Each has been rejected so far, and honestly, I'd rather not give them any oxygen."

The takeover wasn't to win this election - it was to set precedents for years to come. We won't know if it truly worked for years, but there is no reason to think it won't.

[LawBeefaroni]

Trump's much touted "takeover" of the judiciary is bearing no fruit.

Federal judges have already begun to toss last-minute lawsuits brought by President Donald Trump's campaign, which has turned to attempting to litigate a victory as its electoral hopes dwindle.

The campaign, which has falsely alleged that Democrats are trying to "steal" the election by counting all the votes cast, has so far filed lawsuits in three states: Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Within hours, judges had thrown out the suits in Georgia and Michigan. The Supreme Court has already declined once to rule on the Pennsylvania case.

On Thursday, the campaign announced its intent to file a fourth suit in Nevada. It has also vowed to request a recount in Wisconsin, where Democratic nominee Joe Biden has what appears to be an unassailable 20,000-vote lead.

Election law experts called the suits frivolous and unlikely to make a difference.

"They're totally small potatoes," Jon Sherman, senior counsel at the Fair Elections Center, told Salon. "Each has been rejected so far, and honestly, I'd rather not give them any oxygen."

The takeover wasn't to win this election - it was to set precedents for years to come. We won't know if it truly worked for years, but there is no reason to think it won't.

From what I understand, and IANAFL, the lawsuits themselves were laughable and would embarass even a first-year law student. Even "Trump" judges need a pitch somewhere in the neighborhood of home plate. The Trump legal squad was throwing balls 20 feet high and 11 feet outside.

[RunningMn9]

That was the GOP’s goal with the judicial takeover. Trump’s goal was a judiciary that would be loyal to whatever bullshit he wants.