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naednek wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:39 pm It cost $1,000 to put up 30 signs?
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We just had lunch over in Oviedo which is Northeast Orlando. The weather was nice, it wasn't raining even though it was overcast. The temperature is about 75 which means it's cooler it's been for months.

We then went to a Publix supermarket. It was crowded but there were still no line at the checkout aisles. And again it wasn't raining which was nice.

The next thing to do is to look for gas. There were lines at the gas stations in Oviedo, those that weren't actually already out of gas. But our drive home took us through Christmas FL and there there's a Circle K convenience store and while they were a few people at the gas pumps there was no line and I paid for less for gas than I have in months.

We're making some other stops then it's time to hunker down.
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Update - The son, his girlfriend and cats are coming up to Jacksonville tonight.

Thank you guys for the great info it really helped.
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1pm CDT update... Milton has winds of 175 mph sustained, gusts to 190 mph :shock:. It will past close to the northern Yucatan as a Cat 5 storm with significant storm surge. It will slowly drop from Cat 5 to Cat 3 as it approaches the Florida west coast.

The cone is narrowing but still centered on Tampa Bay. It will still be a Cat 1 hurricane as it crosses into the Atlantic, probably right over my house :roll:. Unless we are really unlucky, we hopefully won't see winds much stronger than 60 mph.
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This was from a couple of hours ago.

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Here's a better look at Milton's strength as it approaches the Florida coast:
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And then there's this:
As Milton gets close to the west coast of Florida midweek, an upper trough and a cold front will move in from the north. This will likely create wind shear which will start weakening the storm, which is why you see that reflected in the cone as it reaches the coast. As it weakens slightly, it will likely grow larger, and the wind field will expand. So strong winds will spread farther inland and away from the center. A larger storm can also increase the storm surge height.

Where Milton hits the Florida coast will determine where the worst storm surge will be. Areas east and south of the center of Milton will see the most severe storm surge. A landfall south of Tampa Bay would mean water could actually leave the Bay. A landfall just north would mean severe storm surge in the Bay. Any one of these models could be correct.
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I’ve been through a Cat1. Barely an inconvenience.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:55 pm I’ve been through a Cat1. Barely an inconvenience.
Did you mean that sarcastically?
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Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:55 pm I’ve been through a Cat1. Barely an inconvenience.
Super easy.
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jztemple2 wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:17 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:55 pm I’ve been through a Cat1. Barely an inconvenience.
Did you mean that sarcastically?
I read it in the Screen Rant 'Movie Pitch Meeting' voice: (queued to an example)




so yeah, sarcastic - is my guess.
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jztemple2 wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:17 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:55 pm I’ve been through a Cat1. Barely an inconvenience.
Did you mean that sarcastically?
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Looking now, it might have been down to TS when it hit Dallas.
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My wife just talked to her brother's wife, they are in St Pete on a canal, about eight feet above sea level. They are going to indeed evacuate a few miles to his daughter's house which is in central St Pete, elevation 22 feet. That house is a two story cinderblock, newly refurbished with all sorts of stuff, including a Tesla roof and battery backup for the AC. However, they do have all sorts of shrubbery and trees in the neighborhood so it will be a mess.

The below is an image of the flooding that would occur if a Cat 5 storm hit the area and pushed storm surge up Tampa Bay, basically the worse case scenario. It's from the NWS site, although now I can't find the link. The red is areas at least nine feet underwater, orange is six feet, yellow is three, blue is one. Or at least that's what I remember. The daughter's house is just to the right of the "N" of "22 Ave N", nice and dry.
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I hope all our FL OO’ers stay safe. We left FL in no small part because of hurricanes and global warming. We chose Asheville as our new home hoping it would avoid the worst of the effects…

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The NHC has just revised their peak surge forecast. Estimating now a surge of 10-15 (was 8-12) feet for the area near Tampa Bay. And 5/6-10 feet from Bonita Beach (just north of Naples) to Yankeetown, which is, well, somewhere on the west coast :roll:. And now they are also forecasting a storm surge of 2-4 feet for the east coast of Florida, from Sebastian Inlet (the south end of my county) all the way up to the Flagler/Volusia county line, where the storm surge estimate is now increased to 3-5 feet. Sheesh!

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My in-laws just sent a text. Their home in Port St. Lucie is already starting to flood and the rain from Milton hasn’t gotten to them yet. The water is already up to the slider by their back door.

Not good.
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msteelers wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:51 pm My in-laws just sent a text. Their home in Port St. Lucie is already starting to flood and the rain from Milton hasn’t gotten to them yet. The water is already up to the slider by their back door.

Not good.
I didn't realize Florida was already starting to see the impact. That doesn't bode well.
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South Florida has been getting a ton of rain ahead of the storm. In their area the concern is flooding, not winds.
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What a difference twenty years ans a green new scam make. Hurricane Charlie, Jean, & Francis you couldn't get plywood the only thing left was OSB board. Today all the expensive plywood was still on the shelves, and people are hoping OSB will be enough if they arrived before it ran out. One chick was loading luann plywood, the kind of material interior doors are skinned with, it was under a 1/4 inch thick. Too bad FEMA spent all our money on illegal aliens. At least it's October and not August. Made myself a safe room in my cousin's bathroom. She called me up from out in socialist Seattle worried about her hanging orchids outside LMAO, she doesn't even know if her insurance requires her to board up or not? Oh well, too bad I can't board it up with all her Ross & Marshalls horde inside the house, if only she'd horded some hurricane shutters.
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em2nought wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:18 pm What a difference twenty years ans a green new scam make. Hurricane Charlie, Jean, & Francis you couldn't get plywood the only thing left was OSB board. Today all the expensive plywood was still on the shelves, and people are hoping OSB will be enough if they arrived before it ran out. One chick was loading luann plywood, the kind of material interior doors are skinned with, it was under a 1/4 inch thick. Too bad FEMA spent all our money on illegal aliens. At least it's October and not August. Made myself a safe room in my cousin's bathroom. She called me up from out in socialist Seattle worried about her hanging orchids outside LMAO, she doesn't even know if her insurance requires her to board up or not? Oh well, too bad I can't board it up with all her Ross & Marshalls horde inside the house, if only she'd horded some hurricane shutters.
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Blackhawk wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:37 pm
em2nought wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:18 pm What a difference twenty years ans a green new scam make. Hurricane Charlie, Jean, & Francis you couldn't get plywood the only thing left was OSB board. Today all the expensive plywood was still on the shelves, and people are hoping OSB will be enough if they arrived before it ran out. One chick was loading luann plywood, the kind of material interior doors are skinned with, it was under a 1/4 inch thick. Too bad FEMA spent all our money on illegal aliens. At least it's October and not August. Made myself a safe room in my cousin's bathroom. She called me up from out in socialist Seattle worried about her hanging orchids outside LMAO, she doesn't even know if her insurance requires her to board up or not? Oh well, too bad I can't board it up with all her Ross & Marshalls horde inside the house, if only she'd horded some hurricane shutters.
How about you keep your political conspiracy troll bullshit in the political forum and stop stinking up other peoples' discussions?
How about all your pals do likewise as I'm not even close to being the first one to muddy up this thread? Maybe you'll get lucky and good ol' Milton will take me out and it will be all Kamalabaya here from now on. lol
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WOW! I better test fit myself in that bathtub.
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This is like a 100 mile wide F3 tornado.
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It's all a bit unreal. I just put out the garbage to the street. It's a nice night, just a little wind, not too warm or humid. Tomorrow is supposedly to be so less rainy that I'm planning on my morning walk. But in a couple of days I'm looking at hurricane force winds, heavy rain and possible flooding. This is the latest from the NHC for 7am on Thursday... it will be just about over my house:

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Then a couple of days after that, all bright and beautiful again. It's weird.
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This is the kind of presentation I can use, this is from our Spectrum 13 News folks for my county. Oddly, we got more rain over the past weekend than what is forecast. It's the wind gusts that might give me some trouble, but sustained 40-45 mph I can deal with.

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That doesn’t look fun by any means, but not anything folks in FL haven’t seen before. My folks and my sister and her family live right up the coast from you, jztemple2, in St. John’s/Jacksonville. Last I saw, their forecast was a little worse than yours, but still nothing catastrophic.

I can only imagine what it’s like for people on the FL west coast, particularly the Tampa area, as they wait for this monster to hit them. Stay safe, OOers and family and friends.
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em2nought wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:14 pm
Blackhawk wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:37 pm
em2nought wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:18 pm What a difference twenty years ans a green new scam make. Hurricane Charlie, Jean, & Francis you couldn't get plywood the only thing left was OSB board. Today all the expensive plywood was still on the shelves, and people are hoping OSB will be enough if they arrived before it ran out. One chick was loading luann plywood, the kind of material interior doors are skinned with, it was under a 1/4 inch thick. Too bad FEMA spent all our money on illegal aliens. At least it's October and not August. Made myself a safe room in my cousin's bathroom. She called me up from out in socialist Seattle worried about her hanging orchids outside LMAO, she doesn't even know if her insurance requires her to board up or not? Oh well, too bad I can't board it up with all her Ross & Marshalls horde inside the house, if only she'd horded some hurricane shutters.
How about you keep your political conspiracy troll bullshit in the political forum and stop stinking up other peoples' discussions?
How about all your pals do likewise as I'm not even close to being the first one to muddy up this thread? Maybe you'll get lucky and good ol' Milton will take me out and it will be all Kamalabaya here from now on. lol
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Let's chill on the politics. While I think it's generally OK to comment on some of the misinformation that's out there regarding disaster response, as there's value in combating those, maybe we can try to frame it without politics if we're doing so in EBG and move it to R&P if we can't do that. em2nought, there's no place here for your bullshit misinformation conspiracy theories, and if they're repeated here they'll be removed and may lead to consequences depending on the circumstances.
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So just in case having an approaching hurricane wasn't enough, last night we had some backup in the septic line thanks to all the rain in the past few days :(. I called and left a message with the folks who have done the pump out the last few times, but usually it is a few days before they can fit me on their schedule. Thankfully they can come tomorrow morning which was when I planned to be outside doing my preps anyway. Meantime, I took this morning's shower outside :o

Our county schools have early release today, for what reason I'm not sure. The weather isn't really going to be going downhill till tomorrow afternoon. Oh well.

No changes at all in the forecasts from yesterday. The cone is still centered on Tampa Bay, so a shift twenty miles south would save the Bay from being surged while a shift twenty miles north would be even more disastrous.
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jztemple2 wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:31 am
Our county schools have early release today, for what reason I'm not sure. The weather isn't really going to be going downhill till tomorrow afternoon. Oh well.
So they can have time to evacuate if they so choose?
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stessier wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:39 am
jztemple2 wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:31 am
Our county schools have early release today, for what reason I'm not sure. The weather isn't really going to be going downhill till tomorrow afternoon. Oh well.
So they can have time to evacuate if they so choose?
Our county isn't under any evacuation orders, at least not now. If folks wanted to evacuate they could just not send their kids to school at all. Also, early release is only a couple of hours earlier than normal release time. Declaring early release on one day's notice means a lot of parents/guardians have to alter their plans and maybe leave work early or something similar. This has happened before (not necessarily with storms) and folks have complained at school board meetings about the short notice.
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Maybe for teachers and admin to have a few extra hours to prep for the storm?
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msteelers wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:09 am Maybe for teachers and admin to have a few extra hours to prep for the storm?
Perhaps, but my point was making the day an early release is falling between two stools. It's only a couple of hours. But I don't have a dog in the fight so I'll move on.

All the local TV affiliates are running continuous storm coverage. We're watching Roku just to get a break from it.
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ImLawBoy wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:02 am Let's chill on the politics. While I think it's generally OK to comment on some of the misinformation that's out there regarding disaster response, as there's value in combating those, maybe we can try to frame it without politics if we're doing so in EBG and move it to R&P if we can't do that. em2nought, there's no place here for your bullshit misinformation conspiracy theories, and if they're repeated here they'll be removed and may lead to consequences depending on the circumstances.
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anyhow.

Some interesting flight patterns in the Asheville area right now. I assume it's damage assement, etc.

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I'll have to ask the wife.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:20 pm I'll have to ask the wife.
I should do the same. (Let's take it to PMs)

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