Octopus Overlords

Kraken wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:36 pm Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

malchior wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:52 am

Kraken wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:36 pm Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

In honor of Philadelphian's chasing actual nazis out of town I'll translate to the local favorite version of this phrase, "Fuck around and find out".

But seriously like Smoove_B said, I can't waste time worrying about these morons anymore. I have a friend who for some reason that escapes us all won't get vaccinated. Her whole family is vaccinated, her husband is vaccinated, all our other friends are and she is moping this weekend that no one wants to do anything with her. I wonder if someone should tell her why.

malchior wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:52 am I wonder if someone should tell her why.

YellowKing wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:50 am Lifting the mask mandate was equivalent to the end of the pandemic in a lot of people’s minds. We were talking to a neighbor last night and she kept saying things like “back during the pandemic” and “when COVID was around.” To a lot of people, no masks = no COVID, end of story.

The communication failure coupled with general ignorance has been a staggering failure on multiple levels.

Owners of the ski-themed Aspen Valley nightclub in the city of Enschede in eastern Netherlands couldn’t wait to reopen their venue after more than a year of harsh lockdowns brought on by the COVID-19 pandemic. They did everything the Municipal Health Authorities told them to do before opening on June 26: require all customers to present vaccine certificates or negative COVID-19 tests. No face masks or social distancing was required for the revelers.

What they apparently didn’t account for was how desperate the customers were to dance. So far, 165 of the 650 nightclub goers have tested positive for the virus despite the precautions. Now they know that many of those who attended shared screen grabs of Q-codes or negative tests and the bouncers didn’t notice.

In the Netherlands, people are also given vaccination certificates just one day after they complete their last dose, even though immunity doesn’t start right away and in most cases people are not fully immune for two weeks. And when people are required to take a test 48 hours before attending an event, most don’t quarantine to stay COVID-free in the meantime. “Something that does bother me is that customers can do their test 40 hours in advance,” a bartender told the local newspaper. “So someone gets tested on Friday afternoon, goes to football practice, has a beer with friends and then comes to us 33 contacts later.”

OSHA has stated that employers are obligated to implement multiple controls to protect not-fully-vaccinated employees, visitors, business partners and customers based on CDC guidance.

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:52 pm Right now the 7 day rolling average for COVID-19 new cases is 4 per 100,000 people (daily average of ~12,000 cases).

In Arkansas it's 17.
In Missouri is 16.
In Florida it's 10.

I mean, really.

Alefroth wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:50 pm I found it surprising that the South has the most vaccinated people in the U.S.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/07 ... sparities/

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:21 am Good ol' SC is stuck at around 43% fully vaccinated. And, not surprising, our case numbers are starting to tick up. The positivity rate yesterday was something like 5.4%, which I think is the first time it's been over 5% in months. And after weeks of having single digit new cases/day, we've been getting well over 100/day the last week or two. At least we're sticking it to the Libs pretty good.

Without a vaccination program, by the end of June 2021 there would have been approximately 279,000 additional deaths and up to 1.25 million additional hospitalizations.

Kurth wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:26 am FL is actually doing pretty well on the vaccination front. It strikes me as odd, because if you were just a casual reader of headlines or a CNN watcher, I don’t think that’s the picture most people would get.

The five most significant clusters together include more than 15 million people. Of those, only 27.9% are fully vaccinated -- far lower than the national rate of 47.6%.

The county data is not without its flaws. When someone gets a shot, their home county is supposed to be noted in state records, but the system doesn't always work perfectly. In the Georgetown analysis, at least 90% of all vaccinations were recorded with the person's home county, Bansal said.

In some cases, the Georgetown data differs from CDC data because Bansal and her team were able to obtain additional data directly from state health departments.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention plans to release new guidance on Friday urging schools to fully reopen in the fall, even if they cannot take all of the steps the agency recommends to curb the spread of the coronavirus — a major turn in a public health crisis in which childhood education has emerged as a political flash point.

Schools that are ready to transition away from pandemic precautions as community transmission reaches low levels should do so gradually, the agency said in a draft of the updated guidance obtained by CNN.

"If localities decide to remove prevention strategies in schools based on local conditions, they should remove them one at a time and monitor closely (with adequate testing) for any increases in COVID-19 cases before removing the next prevention strategy," the guidance says, adding that schools need to be transparent with families, staff and the community as they do so.

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:33 pmI worry about all the kids that are potentially going to be living with 50+ years of chronic health complications because we prioritized the economy over keeping them safe.

Paingod wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:16 pm On the blight side, that number is incredibly low compared to all the kids who are going to live 50+ years with ... obesity ....

LordMortis wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:00 pm

Paingod wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:16 pm On the blight side, that number is incredibly low compared to all the kids who are going to live 50+ years with ... obesity ....

Hey... What are you trying to say?

Mr. Mark Elam
Chairman
South Carolina Board of Health and Environmental Control
2600 Bull Street
Columbia, SC 29201

Dear Chairman Elam,
Earlier this week, President Biden announced plans for the federal government to “send
people door to door….to get help to the remaining people protected from the virus." Biden
Administration officials have publicly described their plans as "targeted community door-to-door
outreach."

Thanks to the tremendous ongoing efforts of the Department of Health and
Environmental Control (DHEC) - working collaboratively with state and local healthcare
organizations - South Carolinians have been provided access to all available information about
the vaccine as well as access to the vaccine itself.

A South Carolinian’s decision to get vaccinated is a personal one for them to make and
not the government’s. Enticing, coercing, intimidating, mandating, or pressuring anyone to take
the vaccine is a bad policy which will deteriorate the public’s trust and confidence in the State’s
vaccination efforts. The prospect of government vaccination teams showing up unannounced or
unrequested at the door of “targeted” homeowners or on their property will further deteriorate the
public’s trust and could lead to potentially disastrous public safety consequences.

For those reasons, I ask the DHEC board to promptly issue direction to agency leadership
and to state and local healthcare organizations prohibiting the use of the Biden Administration’s
“targeted” “door to door” tactics in the State’s ongoing vaccination efforts.

LordMortis wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:32 pm I was confuzzled. The only DHEC, I know is a circuit identifier to let you know your T1 is PRI.

stessier wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:28 pm I live in such a lovely state.

SC Gov. Henry McMaster calls on DHEC to 'ban' door-to-door vaccine outreach

Mr. Mark Elam
Chairman
South Carolina Board of Health and Environmental Control
2600 Bull Street
Columbia, SC 29201

Dear Chairman Elam,
Earlier this week, President Biden announced plans for the federal government to “send
people door to door….to get help to the remaining people protected from the virus." Biden
Administration officials have publicly described their plans as "targeted community door-to-door
outreach."

Thanks to the tremendous ongoing efforts of the Department of Health and
Environmental Control (DHEC) - working collaboratively with state and local healthcare
organizations - South Carolinians have been provided access to all available information about
the vaccine as well as access to the vaccine itself.

A South Carolinian’s decision to get vaccinated is a personal one for them to make and
not the government’s. Enticing, coercing, intimidating, mandating, or pressuring anyone to take
the vaccine is a bad policy which will deteriorate the public’s trust and confidence in the State’s
vaccination efforts. The prospect of government vaccination teams showing up unannounced or
unrequested at the door of “targeted” homeowners or on their property will further deteriorate the
public’s trust and could lead to potentially disastrous public safety consequences.

For those reasons, I ask the DHEC board to promptly issue direction to agency leadership
and to state and local healthcare organizations prohibiting the use of the Biden Administration’s
“targeted” “door to door” tactics in the State’s ongoing vaccination efforts.

The prospect of government vaccination teams showing up unannounced or
unrequested at the door of “targeted” homeowners or on their property will further deteriorate the
public’s trust and could lead to potentially disastrous public safety consequences.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:54 pm I'd consider that a threat/call to arms.

prohibiting the use of the Biden Administration’s “targeted” “door to door” tactics in the State’s ongoing vaccination efforts.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:51 pm The state has such good outreach and information about the vaccine that we've managed to get almost 95%... er...

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*checks notes*
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45% of the population fully vaccinated.