Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:36 pm
It's like he doesn't realize that we're still running on pre-Trump budget/tax policy/etc.
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
Somewhat, sure. But the characterization by Trump is of course ridiculous. Not that that's surprising.LordMortis wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:44 pm That's only kinda true. I think the market is being fueled by tax speculation being a gift from the gods.
The White House and CIA have been considering a package of secret proposals to allow former US intelligence officers to run privatized covert actions, intelligence gathering, and propaganda missions, according to three sources who’ve been briefed on or have direct knowledge of the proposals.
One of the proposals would involve hiring a private company, Amyntor Group, for millions of dollars to set up a large intelligence network and run counter terrorist propaganda efforts, according to the sources. Amyntor’s officials and employees include veterans of a variety of US covert operations, ranging from the Reagan-era Iran–Contra affair to more recent actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Another proposal presented to US officials would allow individuals affiliated with the company to help capture wanted terrorists on behalf of the United States. In keeping with that proposal, people close to the company are tracking two specific suspects in a Middle Eastern country, the sources said, for possible “rendition” to the United States.
None of me will be joining you in that.Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:36 pm Part of me has been expecting the next recession ever since the election. Now part of me will be cackling gleefully when it happens on his watch.
IMHO, the 50% corporate rate tax cut prospect is currently what's driving the Dow jump to 24k+. I think it would still be around 22k without that getting priced into investment decisions. Of course, that value has nothing to do with the economy overall, but it sure is helping the shareholders.pr0ner wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:28 pm More Trump stock market narcissism this morning.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 3536573440
I'd love to know where he gets the idea that the stock market would be down 50% from these levels if Hillary Clinton would elected, other than his own delusion.The Dow just broke 24,000 for the first time (another all-time Record). If the Dems had won the Presidential Election, the Market would be down 50% from these levels and Consumer Confidence, which is also at an all-time high, would be “low and glum!”
I'm sort of the same way, in the hope that it will sweep DC clean of Trump's swamp. But I'm really pessimistic. There have been too many examples of people seemingly not giving a damn what happens to them due to bad government policy. "I lost my healthcare and my job? Oh well, I guess that's just the cost of living in America. At least we don't have Hillary exposing national secrets through her private email server!"RunningMn9 wrote:I want nothing but pain for his supporters, even if it takes me down with them.
It will. Its going to take down 99% of us.RunningMn9 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:41 pm I want nothing but pain for his supporters, even if it takes me down with them.
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So you have your fallout shelter built and stocked?RunningMn9 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:14 am It’s unfortunate, but as long as his supporters suffer, I will endure.
I don't think either is very likely. They are in an information black hole. How do you de-program millions of people?hepcat wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:46 amAt some point, the Trump supporters will either have to admit they support him because they are actually racist shits, or wake up and realize he's a child who will destroy the last shred of dignity the office of POTUS holds.
will?hepcat wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:46 am he's a child who will destroy the last shred of dignity the office of POTUS holds.
It's my hope that it hits before he leaves office. The populace is too collectively stupid to not blame the next office holder if it waits until then.Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:36 pm Part of me has been expecting the next recession ever since the election. Now part of me will be cackling gleefully when it happens on his watch.
Very very true.Blackhawk wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:36 amIt's my hope that it hits before he leaves office. The populace is too collectively stupid to not blame the next office holder if it waits until then.Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:36 pm Part of me has been expecting the next recession ever since the election. Now part of me will be cackling gleefully when it happens on his watch.
Very.Remus West wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:53 amVery very true.Blackhawk wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:36 amIt's my hope that it hits before he leaves office. The populace is too collectively stupid to not blame the next office holder if it waits until then.Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:36 pm Part of me has been expecting the next recession ever since the election. Now part of me will be cackling gleefully when it happens on his watch.
And most of them will continue to blame Obama, regardless of what Trump does or doesn't do.Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:05 pm There are still people that blame Obama for the last recession.
And they're the same people who credit Trump with the recovery.Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:05 pm There are still people that blame Obama for the last recession.
Yes - and he is the kid who does it all the time so you absolutely can't trust him. Unfortunately he also has his finger on the button that can end the world so you have to pretend to respect him somewhat.Skinypupy wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:43 am Remember when you were a kid and you told mom one lie, then it spun into another to cover the first, then it needed into a third, and then a fourth...and by the time you were done, you told so many lies that you literally couldn’t keep any of them straight and got totally busted as a result?
This feels just like that, except with the supposed leader of the free world.
Wait, what? Angela Merkel has been caught lying?Skinypupy wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:43 am Remember when you were a kid and you told mom one lie, then it spun into another to cover the first, then it needed into a third, and then a fourth...and by the time you were done, you told so many lies that you literally couldn’t keep any of them straight and got totally busted as a result?
This feels just like that, except with the supposed leader of the free world.
There are people that don't suppose that Merkel is the current leader of the free world? How quaint...
John Dowd, President Trump's outside lawyer, outlined to me a new and highly controversial defense/theory in the Russia probe: A president cannot be guilty of obstruction of justice.
The "President cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case," Dowd claims.
Dowd says he drafted this weekend's Trump tweet that many thought strengthened the case for obstruction: The tweet suggested Trump knew Flynn had lied to the FBI when he was fired, raising new questions about the later firing of FBI Director James Comey.
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Remember: The Articles of Impeachment against Nixon began by saying he "obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice."