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Oh man, I'd love to go back to the days long past when she was considered crazy.Defiant wrote:The way things are going, Sarah Palin is starting to look good.Archinerd wrote:I have to admit, Ben Carson is starting to look pretty good again.
He stopped being amusing months ago and stopped being tolerable in the past few weeks -- since the Paris attack, basically. Yesterday he crossed the line into frightening.Holman wrote:I was just looking back at the start of this thread, before we took Trump seriously.
That's a little unrealistic, don't ya think?Holman wrote:if they're serious about the character of this country instead of just the political game
Too late. Manuel Valls and David Cameron have already piled on to denounce him. The GOP can't be seen joining their voices with the namby-pamby French and the colonial oppressors of our Christian forefathers. Like they know anything about terrorism or refugees anyway.Holman wrote:Now would be the time--if they're serious about the character of this country instead of just the political game--for the remaining sane members of the GOP to step up and explicitly join Democrats in denouncing Trump.
Rip wrote:
That's right I can still find it......
I do not think that icon means what you think it means.
Rip wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/politics/ ... index.html
That's right I can still find it......
Don't go take too strong a stance there, Teddy."I do not think it is the right solution," Cruz said.
"The right solution I believe is the legislation that I've introduced," Cruz added, as he outlined previously filed bills to limit the immigration of Syrian refugees alongside Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.
It means I am a goddamned NINJA!!!!hepcat wrote:It's definitely a litmus test for our country. If he does get the nomination, the GOP is essentially a broken and dysfunctional party that needs to purge its house of dangerous extremism.
If he takes the election, our country has turned into everything we say we stand against.
Rip wrote:
That's right I can still find it......I do not think that icon means what you think it means.
The editor at Think Progress is indicating via Twitter:Holman wrote:Now would be the time--if they're serious about the character of this country instead of just the political game--for the remaining sane members of the GOP to step up and explicitly join Democrats in denouncing Trump.
From here.Trump, Cruz, Carson, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and Rick Santorum are all scheduled to participate in Gaffney’s “National Security Action Summit” next week in Las Vegas.
Cruz doesn't have the guts to call it what it is. He probably wishes he'd said it first.
That is what I have been seeing - only he is willing to tell the truth, he is the only one who understands national security, etc. Basically the same story all along - no matter how far he goes - he can't seem to go too far with the Republican base. If the poll numbers don't move - we have a huge problem here. To be honest we already have a huge problem - we can't govern ourselves as is. It'll signal to the world that we have a fatal problem and events will move beyond our ability to react eventually.Isgrimnur wrote:Unfortunately, I think his base will just take criticism as validation.
He's the only one who understands the boogey man that keeps me up at night.malchior wrote:That is what I have been seeing - they are like - only he is willing to tell the truth, he is the only one who understands national security, etc.Isgrimnur wrote:Unfortunately, I think his base will just take criticism as validation.
John Scalzi wrote:Do I have thoughts on Donald Trump today? Why, yes. Yes I do.
1. Without offering this up as an excuse — it’s rather the opposite — I don’t think Trump planned to become the face of 21st century American fascism. I suspect rather strongly that he entered the presidential race for the usual reasons that Trump does anything publicly, i.e., for the publicity and the long-term brand benefits that accrue. He said outrageous things and when they gave him a boost, he kept on going in that direction, because why wouldn’t he, and here we are. Of course Trump is going to escalate his rhetoric, because that’s what he needs to do to keep the focus on him, and to starve the other competitors for the GOP nomination of the spotlight, forcing them off the stage.
Which is to say that Trump is running his campaign like he’s on a reality show, which has no other context than itself, and of which the goal is to win the presidency, not actually to be president. He’s not wrong about the reality show aspect of the campaign, and that’s on all of us. He’s wrong about everything else, and that’s on him.
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8. In case it wasn’t clear: No one — no one — should be supporting Trump at this point. No one should have been supporting him at any point, mind you. But now more than ever is the point when anyone who isn’t comfortable with outright fascism and bigotry should make it clear, to themselves if no one else, that they are out. It doesn’t matter that Trump won’t win the presidency; it doesn’t matter that he might not even win the GOP nomination. Right now, in the United States, the leading candidate for president of one of the two major political parties — the leader by a substantial margin — is openly talking about denying an entire class of people their fundamental Constitutional and human rights, and being cheered for it. It’s not right, it’s bigoted and hateful, and yes, it absolutely is dangerous.
Trump has a right to say bigoted and fascist things. Other bigots and fascists have a right to support him. The rest of us should also exercise our rights and call Trump and the others out for what they are. And right now, the fact is: If you’re supporting Trump, you’re supporting a bigot and a fascist. That may or may not make you a bigot or a fascist, but it doesn’t say good things about you in any event.
If you love the principles that make the foundation of our laws — and of the United States in a general sense — then you should take your leave of Trump, and for that matter, of any candidate who would cheerfully ride into power the same constituency Trump is mining. What you stand for and who you stand with matters. It’s time to stand away from Trump. As far away as you can get.
I think this is what seems to be completely lost on people who support him. Any sort of foresight whatsoever. It takes more to govern the most powerful country in the world than the ability to shake your first at your foes, real or imagined.malchior wrote:. It'll signal to the world that we have a fatal problem and events will move beyond our ability to react eventually.
London Mayor Boris Johnson, a Conservative, said Trump's "ill-informed comments are complete and utter nonsense."
Joining a long list of British politicians criticizing Trump, Johnson said he would "welcome the opportunity to show Mr. Trump firsthand some of the excellent work our police officers do every day in local neighborhoods throughout our city."
"Crime has been falling steadily both in London and in New York — and the only reason I wouldn't go to some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump," Johnson said.......
.......Lawmaker Zac Goldsmith, the Conservative candidate hoping to replace Johnson as mayor in next year's election, called Trump "one of the most malignant figures in modern politics"
That's the funniest thing about Trump in a very long time.hepcat wrote:Darth Trump
Agreed 100%.tgb wrote:That's the funniest thing about Trump in a very long time.hepcat wrote:Darth Trump
Rip wrote:I wonder how long until Sharper Image is sold out of Trump Steaks?
Made from American cows by the way certified not include any Islamic cows.
Of course, there were 200k signtures on their xenophobic petition as well.A petition calling for American presidential hopeful Donald Trump to be refused entry to the UK has passed 200,000 signatures in less than 24 hours, meaning the issue will be considered for debate in parliament.
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Shortly after the petition surpassed the required 100,000 votes, it appeared the government page crashed.
Just more grist for the Trump bluster mill.Isgrimnur wrote:UK petition
Of course, there were 200k signtures on their xenophobic petition as well.A petition calling for American presidential hopeful Donald Trump to be refused entry to the UK has passed 200,000 signatures in less than 24 hours, meaning the issue will be considered for debate in parliament.
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Shortly after the petition surpassed the required 100,000 votes, it appeared the government page crashed.
Well considering that Sharper Image went bankrupt about a year after picking up the Trump Steaks line, I'm going to guess they didn't sell out. Especially since you can no longer buy them anywhere for at least the past few years.Archinerd wrote:Rip wrote:I wonder how long until Sharper Image is sold out of Trump Steaks?
Made from American cows by the way certified not include any Islamic cows.
68% of what, 35% (?) of roughly 50% if we're being generous? So 11% of voters? It's sad that it's that high but it's not threatening.Isgrimnur wrote:
BAM!Zaxxon wrote:Well, it's threatening to the GOP for sure. Enough to assuredly tank their chances in the general.
Crap; Isg beat me to it...
