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She was my first choice. I am more concerned how she will fare if she runs for the top spot against enraged Repugnicans in 2024.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:54 pm How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.
As a sturn economic conservative, I think she would do alright. Just don't fuck with science and the way we do business, you will do well. Don't get us involved in any conflicts and she will be in power till 2028. But we have to intervine with China and/or North Korea in the near future and that will destroy any Presidential bid.
She's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:54 pm How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.
Not sure what you are implying there. What if Republicans win? Is that the end of the world?Kraken wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:15 pmShe's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:54 pm How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.
I hope Biden lasts through the midterms, because if Harris inherits the office before then the Dems will get shellacked.
HA! We already know what 50% think.and that Americans will grow comfortable with her.
She's ready if comes to it.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:54 pm How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.
what are you implying?Daehawk wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:28 pmHA! We already know what 50% think.and that Americans will grow comfortable with her.
what are you implying?Daehawk wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:28 pmHA! We already know what 50% think.and that Americans will grow comfortable with her.
I would have 100% supported her if she was the nominee for President. I'm quite excited to see what she's going to do - I strongly suspect she's going to re-define what it means to be a VP.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:54 pm How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.
Given the pace of climate change, possibly.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:26 pmNot sure what you are implying there. What if Republicans win? Is that the end of the world?Kraken wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:15 pmShe's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:54 pm How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.
I hope Biden lasts through the midterms, because if Harris inherits the office before then the Dems will get shellacked.
Americans don't like powerful women, much less powerful nonwhite women. If Harris assumes the presidency before the midterms, Dems will lose the House. A hostile Congress would be the end of the world for President Harris. She (and the party) will fare better if Americans have a few years to see that she's not the devil incarnate.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:26 pmNot sure what you are implying there. What if Republicans win? Is that the end of the world?Kraken wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:15 pmShe's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:54 pm How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.
I hope Biden lasts through the midterms, because if Harris inherits the office before then the Dems will get shellacked.
I mean, winning the presidency but not getting the Senate is a big step toward the end of the world. So yes, moving further away in 2022 would be a catastrophic event. We didn't have time to dick around in 2016. We don't have it now. We won't have it in 2022.gbasden wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:48 pmGiven the pace of climate change, possibly.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:26 pmNot sure what you are implying there. What if Republicans win? Is that the end of the world?Kraken wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:15 pmShe's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:54 pm How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.
I hope Biden lasts through the midterms, because if Harris inherits the office before then the Dems will get shellacked.
How much time do -you- think we have to dick around with Republican ideas to stave off the end of the world. I'm not sure what you are implying here.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:26 pmNot sure what you are implying there. What if Republicans win? Is that the end of the world?Kraken wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:15 pmShe's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:54 pm How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.
I hope Biden lasts through the midterms, because if Harris inherits the office before then the Dems will get shellacked.
I have similar concerns about Biden, but did you not see that man run out on the stage tonight? He was downright sprightly. I half expected him to bust out with some push ups after that. I was also impressed with his energy level during his speech - he was on fire and only slightly seemed to run out of gas at the very end. All in all, I'm a hell of a lot less worried about Biden's staying power now than I was last week.mori wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:54 pm How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.
The abusive relationship these people had with Trump is astounding. He berates and insults them publicly when they don't follow his script, yet they go crawling back to him every time.RunningMn9 wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:41 pm It is delicious to find out that these last four years, the real victims are the people that supported Trump. Go fuck yourself Megyn Kelly.
She is making a lot of noise this weekend and I think there are threads in her messaging that make some sense. This one is not one of them. Treating the GOP like Baathists is probably a bridge too far and likely unconstitutional. What we need to do is document what these grifters did in office, prosecute any crimes found, and hope any of that matters to future voters.Jaymann wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:48 pm Apparently AOC wants to blacklist Trump's cronies. In general I am opposed to blacklists. But I would make an exception for these racist, grifter, lawless scumbags.
To clarify, they are victims of OUR cruelty, not Trump’s.hepcat wrote:The abusive relationship these people had with Trump is astounding. He berates and insults them publicly when they don't follow his script, yet they go crawling back to him every time.RunningMn9 wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:41 pm It is delicious to find out that these last four years, the real victims are the people that supported Trump. Go fuck yourself Megyn Kelly.
Somebody got to her - now she is on the "all legal votes" train wreck.Jaymann wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:08 pm Melania has joined the group of those trying to talk Trump down off ledge. Trump is playing more golf.
I agree. "Blacklisting" was my word, holding accountable would have been better. I would hope that none of these berks are ever allowed into any future position of authority.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:18 pm I didn’t see AOC say anything close to blacklisting Trumpists. If this is the tweet you’re referring to, it seems to me she is just saying we should remember who the people enabling Trump were when they inevitably try to downplay their involvement.
https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1324807776510595078?s=21
November 8, 2020 at 8:09 PM EST
A Trump administration appointee is refusing to sign a letter allowing President-elect Joe Biden’s transition team to formally begin its work this week, in another sign the incumbent president has not acknowledged Biden’s victory and could disrupt the transfer of power.
The administrator of the General Services Administration, the low-profile agency in charge of federal buildings, has a little-known role when a new president is elected: to sign paperwork officially turning over millions of dollars, as well as give access to government officials, office space in agencies and equipment authorized for the taxpayer-funded transition teams of the winner.
It amounts to a formal declaration by the federal government, outside of the media, of the winner of the presidential race.
But by Sunday evening, almost 36 hours after media outlets projected Biden as the winner, GSA Administrator Emily Murphy had written no such letter. And the Trump administration, in keeping with the president’s failure to concede the election, has no immediate plans to sign one. This could lead to the first transition delay in modern history, except in 2000, when the Supreme Court decided a recount dispute between Al Gore and George W. Bush in December.
“An ascertainment has not yet been made,” Pamela Pennington, a spokeswoman for GSA, said in an email, “and its Administrator will continue to abide by, and fulfill, all requirements under the law.”
The GSA statement left experts on federal transitions to wonder when the White House expects the handoff from one administration to the next to begin — when the president has exhausted his legal avenues to fight the results, or the formal vote of the electoral college on Dec. 14? There are 74 days, as of Sunday, until the Biden inauguration on Jan. 20.
El Guapo wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:50 pm You also have to factor in that the Trump campaign is not exactly drawing from top legal talent pools at this point.
I wish she would STFU and give Biden/Harris a little time and space to get their legs under them before she starts trying to push her agenda. Her talking points are not at all helpful right now.malchior wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:55 pmShe is making a lot of noise this weekend and I think there are threads in her messaging that make some sense. This one is not one of them. Treating the GOP like Baathists is probably a bridge too far and likely unconstitutional. What we need to do is document what these grifters did in office, prosecute any crimes found, and hope any of that matters to future voters.Jaymann wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:48 pm Apparently AOC wants to blacklist Trump's cronies. In general I am opposed to blacklists. But I would make an exception for these racist, grifter, lawless scumbags.
Agreed. What I think she is doing is defending progressivism because people are taking a very premature only the center can win message from the election when the reality is it is much more complicated. She actually had some insightful points about how the Democratic party's long-time inability to communicate is a huge weak spot. It is something they've needed to fix for a long-time. However, it appears to not be the problem where they need their message to work the most *right now* which is in GA. They've got one of their best strategists working it at the moment.Kurth wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:01 pmI wish she would STFU and give Biden/Harris a little time and space to get their legs under them before she starts trying to push her agenda. Her talking points are not at all helpful right now.malchior wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:55 pmShe is making a lot of noise this weekend and I think there are threads in her messaging that make some sense. This one is not one of them. Treating the GOP like Baathists is probably a bridge too far and likely unconstitutional. What we need to do is document what these grifters did in office, prosecute any crimes found, and hope any of that matters to future voters.Jaymann wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:48 pm Apparently AOC wants to blacklist Trump's cronies. In general I am opposed to blacklists. But I would make an exception for these racist, grifter, lawless scumbags.
My issue is more with timing and what looks to me to be a lack of sufficient wisdom to know that sometimes, the less said the better. She doesn’t need to come out swinging in response to John Kasich and the like. She should chill and bide her time. Progressives will have - and deserve - an opportunity to push their agenda. But that time isn’t now.malchior wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:09 pmAgreed. What I think she is doing is defending progressivism because people are taking a very premature only the center can win message from the election when the reality is it is much more complicated. She actually had some insightful points about how the Democratic party's long-time inability to communicate is a huge weak spot. It is something they've needed to fix for a long-time. However, it appears to not be the problem where they need their message to work the most *right now* which is in GA. They've got one of their best strategists working it at the moment.Kurth wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:01 pmI wish she would STFU and give Biden/Harris a little time and space to get their legs under them before she starts trying to push her agenda. Her talking points are not at all helpful right now.malchior wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:55 pmShe is making a lot of noise this weekend and I think there are threads in her messaging that make some sense. This one is not one of them. Treating the GOP like Baathists is probably a bridge too far and likely unconstitutional. What we need to do is document what these grifters did in office, prosecute any crimes found, and hope any of that matters to future voters.Jaymann wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:48 pm Apparently AOC wants to blacklist Trump's cronies. In general I am opposed to blacklists. But I would make an exception for these racist, grifter, lawless scumbags.
My worry is less with the smoothness of the transition and more with whether this reflects Trump trying to find someone who will order the military to help him stay in power. Which I don't think he would succeed at, but which would be super alarming.$iljanus wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:08 pm Well, Sec of Defense Esper has been fired. Such a needless complication of the transition. They need to invoke the 25th