Octopus Overlords

Holman wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:35 am "Eventually, it landed in Rudy Giuliani's possession pants, based on video evidence"

Do we have to always assume the worst?!

Holman wrote:"Eventually, it landed in Rudy Giuliani's possession" is doing a lot of work there.

Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) intends to run for another term as House speaker, she said Sunday morning on CNN.

Pelosi’s commitment underscores Democrats’ confidence that they will be able to retain their majority in the House after Election Day. She also called President Trump’s debate-stage prediction that Republicans would retake the House majority “delusional.”

El Guapo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:56 pm I'm fine sticking with Pelosi. I think she's aggressive enough, and she does a good job keeping the caucus together.

I'd be more interested in replacing Schumer, though I'm assuming that's not in the cards unless the Democrats fail to retake the Senate (though ironically, replacing him would be less important in that scenario).

Police arrested 11 people Sunday in New York City after fights erupted in Times Square as a large Jews for Trump convoy rolled through. Skirmishes broke out after some counterdemonstrators yanked flags off vehicles – and some drivers and passengers got out of their cars.

The clashes broke out on the same day the police department suspended an officer without pay for using his police cruiser's public address system to announce, "Trump 2020," repeatedly.

The officer broadcast his political opinions in Brooklyn's Flatbush neighborhood as angry onlookers spoke out against him — as well as against his vehicle, which was parked with its lights on, blocking a crosswalk.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:42 pm Yeah, no. They need to choose someone else.

El Guapo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:56 pm I'm fine sticking with Pelosi. I think she's aggressive enough, and she does a good job keeping the caucus together.

I'd be more interested in replacing Schumer, though I'm assuming that's not in the cards unless the Democrats fail to retake the Senate (though ironically, replacing him would be less important in that scenario).

Jaymann wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:32 pmThey should elect AOC just to watch Repugnican heads explode.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:40 pm Shes 80 for fucks sake. I'm not saying she can't do the job, obviously she can. But surely there is someone better suited in the party, no? We need more than leading by consensus right now.

Take your hundred million and enjoy a wonderful retirement. Or hell, run a foundation or start-up and do amazing things.

Right-wing activists, hoaxers and alleged fraudsters Jack Burkman and Jacob Wohl gave testimony in a civil case on Monday morning. And some of what was said might have less than positive implications for their upcoming criminal trial in Michigan.

The decidedly bumbling duo was sued in New York federal court in late October by the National Coalition on Black Civic Participation (NCBCP), a self-described and decades-old “nonpartisan civil rights and racial justice organization,” for allegedly violating the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871.

According to the nonprofit groups’s 23-page complaint, Burkman, Wohl and their associated political and lobbying firms are behind a racist “disinformation campaign” that operates “by bombarding lawfully registered voters with robocalls containing blatant lies about mail-in voting in order to intimidate those voters into not exercising their right to vote in the November 3, 2020 election.”
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During Monday’s hearing, Wohl served as his own attorney and openly answered questions that he was asked, according to journalist Zachary Petrizzo, who listened in on the proceedings.
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“Wohl is not only defending himself, but he is answering questions in a civil case even though he has been charged in a criminal case,” noted former federal prosecutor and CNN legal analyst Renato Mariotti via Twitter. “What he says in this civil case can and will be used against him! Normally defendants request a ‘stay’ that pauses the civil case.”

Attorney Ken White was even more aghast:

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1320724183752396802

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1320725743534403585

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1320726390711349250

El Guapo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:05 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:40 pm Shes 80 for fucks sake. I'm not saying she can't do the job, obviously she can. But surely there is someone better suited in the party, no? We need more than leading by consensus right now.

Take your hundred million and enjoy a wonderful retirement. Or hell, run a foundation or start-up and do amazing things.

Who would that be? Honestly I'm open to other options personally, I just haven't read a good pitch yet for someone else.

She and the Democrats should 100% be thinking of future succession. But at the same time the Democrats aren't going to have a long window with full control of government (assuming that they get there at all, of course). I don't want someone learning on the job in the 2021 - 2023 window.

I will say if the Democrats fail to get full control of government then I think the argument to replace her with whomever is the next major leader in the democratic house caucus is somewhat stronger.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:17 pm

El Guapo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:05 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:40 pm Shes 80 for fucks sake. I'm not saying she can't do the job, obviously she can. But surely there is someone better suited in the party, no? We need more than leading by consensus right now.

Take your hundred million and enjoy a wonderful retirement. Or hell, run a foundation or start-up and do amazing things.

Who would that be? Honestly I'm open to other options personally, I just haven't read a good pitch yet for someone else.

She and the Democrats should 100% be thinking of future succession. But at the same time the Democrats aren't going to have a long window with full control of government (assuming that they get there at all, of course). I don't want someone learning on the job in the 2021 - 2023 window.

I will say if the Democrats fail to get full control of government then I think the argument to replace her with whomever is the next major leader in the democratic house caucus is somewhat stronger.

They should have been thinking of future succession in 2018 when AOC upset that apple cart. They dropped that ball (again) but that's not reason enough to keep Pelosi on, IMO.

Jaymann wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:32 pm They should elect AOC just to watch Repugnican heads explode.

El Guapo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:16 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:17 pm

El Guapo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:05 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:40 pm Shes 80 for fucks sake. I'm not saying she can't do the job, obviously she can. But surely there is someone better suited in the party, no? We need more than leading by consensus right now.

Take your hundred million and enjoy a wonderful retirement. Or hell, run a foundation or start-up and do amazing things.

Who would that be? Honestly I'm open to other options personally, I just haven't read a good pitch yet for someone else.

She and the Democrats should 100% be thinking of future succession. But at the same time the Democrats aren't going to have a long window with full control of government (assuming that they get there at all, of course). I don't want someone learning on the job in the 2021 - 2023 window.

I will say if the Democrats fail to get full control of government then I think the argument to replace her with whomever is the next major leader in the democratic house caucus is somewhat stronger.

They should have been thinking of future succession in 2018 when AOC upset that apple cart. They dropped that ball (again) but that's not reason enough to keep Pelosi on, IMO.

But like, if you're saying that the Democrats should replace Pelosi in 2021, who should they replace her with?

Isgrimnur wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:56 pm The Hill

A West Virginia judge dismissed a coal mogul’s defamation lawsuit this week against cable television host John Oliver and HBO.

In a decision dated Wednesday, West Virginia Judge Jeffrey Cramer accepted HBO’s argument that Bob Murray, CEO of coal mining giant Murray Energy Corp., failed to show that Oliver had defamed him according to the law.

U.S. coal baron Robert Murray, an ally of President Donald Trump and a leading industry voice who called global warming a hoax, died on Sunday at age 80, U.S. media reported.

Murray retired on Oct. 19 after 63 years in the coal business, shortly after applying for federal benefits to treat his black lung disease, a respiratory illness caused by prolonged exposure to coal dust, according to a report by West Virginia public radio.
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Murray, who had worked underground for 16 years early in his career, wrote in his filing for black lung benefits that he was near death and heavily dependent on an oxygen tank.

pr0ner wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:03 pmAdam Schiff?

Pyperkub wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:07 pm Who is the House Dem whip?

Weeks after Michigan prosectors hit the pair of right-wing provocateurs with charges in an alleged voter-intimidation robocall scheme, Jacob Wohl, 22, and Jack Burkman, 58, have been indicted by an Ohio grand jury on separate felony counts.

Local prosecutors charged Wohl and Burkman each with eight counts of felony telecommunications fraud and seven counts of felony bribery for allegedly sowing false fears about voting by mail in targeted minority communities in Ohio, plus multiple other states. Warrants were issued for the pair's arrest, who face up to 18 years and six months in prison if convicted.

When President Donald Trump left Omaha on Tuesday, thousands watched and cheered in the frigid air as Air Force One took off into the night sky. But for these loyal supporters, their experience at the Trump rally was far from over.
For the next several hours, hundreds and hundreds of people who attended the rally were stranded, as a chaotic scene unfolded on dark roads on a remote stretch near the Omaha airport. They waited for buses that didn't arrive, unable to reach the site because of a clogged two-lane road.

LordMortis wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:27 pm I'm afraid to unsubscribe, stop, etc... History suggests to me this only increases the circulation of your contact information as being live.

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LordMortis wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:27 pm I'm afraid to unsubscribe, stop, etc... History suggests to me this only increases the circulation of your contact information as being live.

I've always wondered if that is just an urban myth, or legit spammer warfare tactics.

malchior wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:36 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:33 pm

LordMortis wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:27 pm I'm afraid to unsubscribe, stop, etc... History suggests to me this only increases the circulation of your contact information as being live.

I've always wondered if that is just an urban myth, or legit spammer warfare tactics.

Spammers definitely count any response as a live email and either target with more spam or sell the contact. Political campaigns and major corporations...generally respect the unsubscribe.

Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:33 pm

LordMortis wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:27 pm I'm afraid to unsubscribe, stop, etc... History suggests to me this only increases the circulation of your contact information as being live.

I've always wondered if that is just an urban myth, or legit spammer warfare tactics.

The last of the seven top aides who accused Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton of criminal violations has resigned from the agency.
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Two of the other whistleblowers were fired last week, two more were put on leave, and two others have already resigned — leaving the sprawling agency without seven of its top officials. A spokesman for Paxton denied that the firings were retaliation, citing unspecified violations of agency policy.

malchior wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:36 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:33 pm

LordMortis wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:27 pm I'm afraid to unsubscribe, stop, etc... History suggests to me this only increases the circulation of your contact information as being live.

I've always wondered if that is just an urban myth, or legit spammer warfare tactics.

Spammers definitely count any response as a live email and either target with more spam or sell the contact. Political campaigns and major corporations...generally respect the unsubscribe.

Kraken wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:04 pm

malchior wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:36 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:33 pm

LordMortis wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:27 pm I'm afraid to unsubscribe, stop, etc... History suggests to me this only increases the circulation of your contact information as being live.

I've always wondered if that is just an urban myth, or legit spammer warfare tactics.

Spammers definitely count any response as a live email and either target with more spam or sell the contact. Political campaigns and major corporations...generally respect the unsubscribe.

Yeah, never unsub from outright spam. Political campaigns should be rule-abiding. Elizabeth Warren respected my unsub. Somehow, though, Moveon.org got my address last week, and Jaimie showed up the day after I dropped Moveon. I suspect they're a super spreader. We'll see.

Jaimie's messages were going to the junk email box that I only empty every 4-5 days, so there were 20 emails piled up there. Not cool, Jaimie.

I'm Anna from Czech American Voter Outreach. I hope you will vote for Joe Biden. As Czech-Americans we believe Biden is much better for us and all Americans. We can't afford four more chaotic years of Trump. Feel free to call us back [800 number] and above all – please vote!

Defiant wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:45 am In reference to the US economy:

https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1 ... 7457793024