The Former Trump Presidency Thread

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:35 am

Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:32 am
LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:27 am We've come a long way, baby.

He seems to have come out the other side in good position

Vice Chair of the Homeland Security Advisory Council June 5, 2009 – February 8, 2011

United States Special Envoy for Northern Ireland October 21, 2014 – January 20, 2017
Gary Hart, western author.

Like I said, we've come a long way. When child molestation is OK, simple infidelity is practically a virtue.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:27 pm

Remember back in 2012, when we were all pretty worried that Romney might actually pull it out, and the biggest scandal going on was binders full of women? That was just five years ago. What would you give to be able to vote in a Romney/Jeb ticket right about now?

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:32 pm

I personally would have voted for Romney/Jeb over Hillary Clinton.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:37 pm

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/stat ... 0567121920

Not sure where this should go anymore.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:38 pm

pr0ner wrote:I personally would have voted for Romney/Jeb over Hillary Clinton.

The only thing that would have stopped me from voting for that would have been Obamacare repeal.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:40 pm

pr0ner wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:32 pm I personally would have voted for Romney/Jeb over Hillary Clinton.

There is no final ticket from either party from the last 30 years that I wouldn't have taken over Trump. And I can't think of any that I wouldn't have take over HRC either.

We had two turds and we're scarfing on the bigger, smellier, more fetid, and kind of runny one. Now we wait to see if we get dysentery.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:42 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:40 pm
pr0ner wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:32 pm I personally would have voted for Romney/Jeb over Hillary Clinton.
There is no final ticket from either party from the last 30 years that I wouldn't have taken over Trump. And I can't think of any that I wouldn't have take over HRC either.

We had two turds and we're scarfing on the bigger, smellier, more fetid, and kind of runny one. Now we wait to see if we get dysentery.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:16 pm

msteelers wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:38 pm
pr0ner wrote:I personally would have voted for Romney/Jeb over Hillary Clinton.
The only thing that would have stopped me from voting for that would have been Obamacare repeal.

I wonder if Romney would have actually scrapped a health care plan that's based on one he implemented in Massachusetts.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:31 pm

pr0ner wrote:
msteelers wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:38 pm
pr0ner wrote:I personally would have voted for Romney/Jeb over Hillary Clinton.
The only thing that would have stopped me from voting for that would have been Obamacare repeal.
I wonder if Romney would have actually scrapped a health care plan that's based on one he implemented in Massachusetts.

Well, he said he would repeal it when he ran for president. And I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for a republican president to veto a repeal that a Republican Congress puts on his desk.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:31 pm

msteelers wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:38 pm
pr0ner wrote:I personally would have voted for Romney/Jeb over Hillary Clinton.
The only thing that would have stopped me from voting for that would have been Obamacare repeal.

Or, as it was originally called, Romneycare. He might have run on repeal, but he probably wouldn't have done it. (Thing about Romney is you never know what he really stands for...if anything.)

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:39 pm

Kraken wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:31 pm
msteelers wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:38 pm
pr0ner wrote:I personally would have voted for Romney/Jeb over Hillary Clinton.
The only thing that would have stopped me from voting for that would have been Obamacare repeal.
Or, as it was originally called, Romneycare. He might have run on repeal, but he probably wouldn't have done it. (Thing about Romney is you never know what he really stands for...if anything.)

He would absolutely have signed a repeal bill. Bear in mind that the ACA didn't go into effect until 2014, so repealing it in 2013 would have been far easier than repealing it in 2017. The only complication is that the democrats controlled the Senate until 2014, and obviously they wouldn't pass a repeal bill. Of course, a world where Romney won in 2012 might also be a world where the GOP takes the Senate that year.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:46 pm

Max Peck wrote:This can't possibly end badly...

Trump to Fight ‘Deep State’ With Secret, Private Spy Network Around the World?
President Donald Trump may have found his way to combat one of his worst enemies, the so-called “Deep State.”

The Trump administration is reportedly weighing the creation of a private network of spies conjured up by former Blackwater founder Erik Prince, a former CIA officer, and famous Iran-Contra scandal figure Oliver North, that would gather intelligence for CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House and keep the rest of the U.S. intelligence community in the dark of what it discovers, according to a report by The Intercept on Tuesday.

The purpose of the global spy network would be to circumvent the “Deep State,” a term widely used to describe long-time officials within the government who seemingly possess a political agenda meant to undermine an administration. Trump has repeatedly claimed, with no evidence, that such an underground group exists and has worked against him since he took office earlier this year.

The proposal of a private clandestine network appeared rooted in distrust the current administration had for the intelligence community. Top political donors to Trump were reportedly asked to help finance operations before any agreement was reached.

“Pompeo can’t trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him,” a former senior U.S. intelligence official with “firsthand knowledge” of the proposal told The Intercept.

“It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books,” the official also said. “The whole point is this is supposed to report to the president and Pompeo directly.”

Holy shit this sounds like some plot out of the Punisher on Netflix. But we don't have a Frank Castle to carry out some vigilante justice.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:54 pm

Shit is so crazy that when I posted that stuff last week no one even blinked.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:58 pm

Saturday night live had a joke about that during the Weekend Update. The bit was about how the President accused a former congressman of murder and it was pretty much ignored. Anyway back to them starting up ISIS in the Archer sense...reporting directly to a corrupt and vile President. It'll be run by a no scruples mercenary who has a reputation for breaking the law. Ok, I suppose we should not not worried at all about that I guess. We live in bizarre times.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:10 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:54 pm Shit is so crazy that when I posted that stuff last week no one even blinked.

I saw it!

Right now the coverage is limited to the more breathless corners of lefty media, but we do know that the Trump campaign secretly employed Erik Prince as an envoy to Putin's reps overseas before the inauguration.

Trump's distrust of the intelligence community doesn't even need speculation. He has told us a dozen times that they're in Hillary's pocket or lying about him or covering for Obama's wire-tapping.

Since history repeats itself first as tragedy and then as farce, Trump's gang of plumbers will probably be teargassed and beanbagged while trying to sneak into -George- Clinton's offices because they heard he has secret recordings from the 1990s.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:11 pm

It's amazing how much things have changed from 1991 to right now.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:02 am

malchior wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:58 pm Saturday night live had a joke about that during the Weekend Update. The bit was about how the President accused a former congressman of murder and it was pretty much ignored. Anyway back to them starting up ISIS in the Archer sense...reporting directly to a corrupt and vile President. It'll be run by a no scruples mercenary who has a reputation for breaking the law. Ok, I suppose we should not not worried at all about that I guess. We live in bizarre times.

ISIS? Pfft... It's clearly going to be ODIN.

Project Veritas is going to ISIS. (Props to pr0ner)

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:41 am

pr0ner wrote:I personally would have voted for Romney/Jeb over Hillary Clinton.

I wouldn't. Not with McConnell and Ryan and the tea party idiots still in power.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:51 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:30 am The fucking Gestapo. Unbelievable.

Sadly, it's not.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:27 am

Obama has 2 tweets in the top 10 of most retweets for 2017, whereas Drumpf is not in the top 10 at all.

Even better it's being reported everywhere. You can't escape it.

I hope it adds a little something to drumpf's day.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:36 am

This is how I see the Mangerine in my head whenever Obama trumps him in something.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:05 am

Curly was funny and lovable. Drumpf, not so much.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:04 am

Next up: tip pooling:

The Labor Department on Monday opened 30 days of public comment on its proposal to eliminate an Obama administration rule that allowed restaurant employees to keep their tips instead of being forced to share them with non-tipped workers.

The Labor Department said in a statement that the rule had contributed to pay disparities between servers and other staff, like cooks and dishwashers. The Trump administration stopped enforcing the Obama rule nationwide when it first announced the proposal in July.

He's a petulant child. Unreal.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:05 am

Tackling the big issues in the economy, I see.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:18 am

In any event, it's good to see that they're now focusing on pay disparity.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:25 am

When I was a server we had to share our tips. Some went to the bar and the food runners. I never minded sharing tips with them, because the better they do their jobs the better my tip is. I hated having to share tips with the cooks though. That always just felt like a way for management to pay them less at my expense.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:28 am

msteelers wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:25 am tips... [have] always [been] a way for management to pay ... less at [someone else's] expense.

FTFY.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:48 am

Zaxxon wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:28 am
msteelers wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:25 am tips... [have] always [been] a way for management to pay ... less at [someone else's] expense.
FTFY.

Fair, but it's not something I generally mind as either a consumer or a server.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:59 pm

Is it commonplace for tips to be pooled? I base my tips strictly on the waitperson's performance, which may sometimes be unfair to the others.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:06 pm

GreenGoo wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:27 am Obama has 2 tweets in the top 10 of most retweets for 2017, whereas Drumpf is not in the top 10 at all.

Even better it's being reported everywhere. You can't escape it.

I hope it adds a little something to drumpf's day.

Obama has three, and only missed the top spot by a guy wanting a year's worth of chicken nuggets. That's America for you.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:29 pm

Nothing like some uplifting news on a Wednesday afternoon:

Nearly two-thirds of Republicans — 66 percent — classified as “always Trump” supporters agreed that “because things have gotten so far off track in this country, we need a leader who is willing to break some rules if that’s what it takes to set things right.”

Even better:

But more than 84 percent of Republicans approve of the president’s performance, and nearly a third of white evangelical Protestants say there is almost nothing Trump could do to lose their support.

The GOP is a fucking cult.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:42 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:29 pmThe GOP is a fucking cult.

Ideology is a helluva drug.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:26 pm

While there is more and more criminal evidence of this guys corruption, the battle will fought at the voting booth next year.

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hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:42 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:42 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:29 pmThe GOP is a fucking cult.
Ideology is a helluva drug.

And instead of orange kool aid, we get an orange fool...aid.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:47 pm

hepcat wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:42 pm
RunningMn9 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:42 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:29 pmThe GOP is a fucking cult.
Ideology is a helluva drug.
And instead of orange kool aid, we get an orange fool...aid.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:15 pm

Trump's Jerusalem speech today will be remembered only for his slurring his words.

The most charitable interpretation is that he has dentures (who knew?) and that they were getting loose.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:32 pm

Does he wear dentures? A friend of mine does and when they are loose or not fitting right he sounds like that.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:46 pm

I can picture any old fart we elect to have that problem.

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YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:50 pm

Remember when every time Hillary coughed it was evidence of severe brain damage?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:05 pm

YellowKing wrote:Remember when every time Hillary coughed it was evidence of severe brain damage?

Lol

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