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tjg_marantz wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:30 am What is he implying?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 2053053441

tgb wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:53 am Can someone explain the last line to me? (I don't think it qualifies as a sentence).

But Gillibrand has also held the men in her own party accountable, last week joining a group of other Democratic women to call on Sen. Al Franken to resign after radio news anchor Leeann Tweeden shared a photo of him appearing to grope her while she slept, and other women accused him of sexual misconduct. And when an interviewer for the New York Times asked her if she believed Bill Clinton should have resigned the presidency 20 years ago after his relationship with Monica Lewinsky, then a White House intern, became public – this was after several women had also made sexual harassment and assault allegations about President Clinton – Gillibrand “took a long pause and said, ‘Yes, I think that is the appropriate response.’”

Cue the skewering.

Gillibrand now stands accused of being craven, disloyal, and cynically using this moment to build her brand and put herself in the national spotlight. Maybe she is – welcome to being a politician. Or maybe she’s just doing her job, but being pilloried for it because she’s widely believed to be considering a run against Donald Trump in 2020 – and as we learned in 2016, Americans remain remarkably hostile to women seeking power.

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tgb wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:53 am Can someone explain the last line to me? (I don't think it qualifies as a sentence).

In addition to calling for Trump to step down over his sexual misconduct, Gillibrand has also criticized Democrats such as Al Franken and Bill Clinton, making her a target of of the right, the alt-right and some progressive elements all at the same time.

But Gillibrand has also held the men in her own party accountable, last week joining a group of other Democratic women to call on Sen. Al Franken to resign after radio news anchor Leeann Tweeden shared a photo of him appearing to grope her while she slept, and other women accused him of sexual misconduct. And when an interviewer for the New York Times asked her if she believed Bill Clinton should have resigned the presidency 20 years ago after his relationship with Monica Lewinsky, then a White House intern, became public – this was after several women had also made sexual harassment and assault allegations about President Clinton – Gillibrand “took a long pause and said, ‘Yes, I think that is the appropriate response.’”

Cue the skewering.

Gillibrand now stands accused of being craven, disloyal, and cynically using this moment to build her brand and put herself in the national spotlight. Maybe she is – welcome to being a politician. Or maybe she’s just doing her job, but being pilloried for it because she’s widely believed to be considering a run against Donald Trump in 2020 – and as we learned in 2016, Americans remain remarkably hostile to women seeking power.

Trump's fat Twitter fingers wrote:Despite thousands of hours wasted and many millions of dollars spent, the Democrats have been unable to show any collusion with Russia - so now they are moving on to the false accusations and fabricated stories of women who I don’t know and/or have never met. FAKE NEWS!

Captain Caveman wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:55 am It’s obvious what he’s implying, but he’s doing it in that typical Trump way that he can persevere the veneer of plausible deniability.

He’s a troll and an attention whore and worse than all that, he’s a disgusting human being.

YellowKing wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:26 am That's what I don't get about Trump supporters. Even if you agree with the guy's policies, how can you think that this kind of temper-tantrum tweeting is acceptable from the freaking President of the United States? Even in the depths of my conservatism, I still criticized Bush when he spoke like a country bumpkin - and he wasn't even saying anything offensive. He was just ineloquent.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:03 pm Just to get this straight - when the president is accused of sexually harassing women, he responds by sexually harassing a senator on Twitter? It's pretty amazing how far we've sunk in the last year.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:03 pm Just to get this straight - when the president is accused of sexually harassing women, he responds by sexually harassing a senator on Twitter? It's pretty amazing how far we've sunk in the last year.

Grifman wrote:Even worse some politicians like Jason Chavetz disavowed Trump but then came crawling back, rather than standing by their principles, when they saw which way the wind was blowing.

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:10 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:03 pm Just to get this straight - when the president is accused of sexually harassing women, he responds by sexually harassing a senator on Twitter? It's pretty amazing how far we've sunk in the last year.

He's just trying to get back some attention from the Moore campaign after Moore's wife said last night at a rally that they have black and Jewish friends

YellowKing wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:39 pmThat was the most disappointing thing to come out of this election for me. I saw friends and family trade all the character, morals, and principles I thought they had for a fucking Supreme Court seat.

Kraken wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:38 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:03 pm Just to get this straight - when the president is accused of sexually harassing women, he responds by sexually harassing a senator on Twitter? It's pretty amazing how far we've sunk in the last year.

How's Melania's crusade against cyber-bullying going? Haven't heard much about that lately.

Kraken wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:38 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:03 pm Just to get this straight - when the president is accused of sexually harassing women, he responds by sexually harassing a senator on Twitter? It's pretty amazing how far we've sunk in the last year.

How's Melania's crusade against cyber-bullying going? Haven't heard much about that lately.

YellowKing wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:09 pm But by all means, enjoy that seat. Republicans are leaving the party in droves. 2018 will be a bloodbath. The party brand has been tarnished almost irreparably. Let's see how long the party can sustain itself with extremists while the rest of the country has moved on.

YellowKing wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:28 pm I'm optimistic that the general trend of the country is away from right-wing extremism. There is certainly evidence for it. All the polls point towards it, the recent special elections pointed towards it. Hell - Alabama is actually *competitive* for a Democrat. At some point the dam is going to burst and sweep all these freaks out to sea.

YellowKing wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:09 pm And really, what impact does a Supreme Court seat have compared to the day-to-day policies Trump's putting into place (or taking away?) It's not like Roe v Wade is going to be overturned tomorrow.

Kraken wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:38 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:03 pm Just to get this straight - when the president is accused of sexually harassing women, he responds by sexually harassing a senator on Twitter? It's pretty amazing how far we've sunk in the last year.

How's Melania's crusade against cyber-bullying going? Haven't heard much about that lately.

Holman wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:46 pm

YellowKing wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:28 pm I'm optimistic that the general trend of the country is away from right-wing extremism. There is certainly evidence for it. All the polls point towards it, the recent special elections pointed towards it. Hell - Alabama is actually *competitive* for a Democrat. At some point the dam is going to burst and sweep all these freaks out to sea.

This is exactly why they're putting so much into voter suppression. If they can make voting difficult and create the expectation that it doesn't work anyway, they'll win themselves another generation in power.

Functioning democracies are already a minority. They've got plenty of models.

Alefroth wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:48 pm

Kraken wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:38 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:03 pm Just to get this straight - when the president is accused of sexually harassing women, he responds by sexually harassing a senator on Twitter? It's pretty amazing how far we've sunk in the last year.

How's Melania's crusade against cyber-bullying going? Haven't heard much about that lately.

It's not specifically cyber-bullying, but if she doesn't comment on the Keaton Jones situation, it's clear she's not much involved.

A review by The New York Times of daily mortality data from Puerto Rico’s vital statistics bureau indicates a significantly higher death toll after the hurricane than the government there has acknowledged.

The Times’s analysis found that in the 42 days after Hurricane Maria made landfall on Sept. 20 as a Category 4 storm, 1,052 more people than usual died across the island. The analysis compared the number of deaths for each day in 2017 with the average of the number of deaths for the same days in 2015 and 2016.

Officially, just 64 people died as a result of the storm that ravaged the island with nearly 150-mile-an-hour winds, cutting off power to 3.4 million Puerto Ricans. The last two fatalities were added to the death toll on Dec. 9.

“Before the hurricane, I had an average of 82 deaths daily. That changes from Sept. 20 to 30th. Now I have an average of 118 deaths daily,” Wanda Llovet, the director of the Demographic Registry in Puerto Rico, said in a mid-November interview. Since then, she said on Thursday, both figures have increased by one.

Data for October are not yet complete, and the number of deaths recorded in that month is expected to rise. Record-keeping has been delayed because Puerto Rico’s power grid is operating at less than 70 percent of its capacity and swaths of the island still do not have power.