Octopus Overlords

hepcat wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 3:07 pm

stimpy wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:40 pm but I think the people that took action were just waiting for an excuse, any excuse, to act out their fantasies. Just like most rioters and looters.
In the end, people are responsible for their own actions, lemmings are not.

Just like the one guy in the Lincoln Project. Although their leaders actually did speak out against him. So I'm not sure why you tried to associate his actions with the entire Lincoln Project by calling out it in your post instead of the one man who did those horrible things.

stimpy wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:33 pm

hepcat wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 3:07 pm

stimpy wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:40 pm but I think the people that took action were just waiting for an excuse, any excuse, to act out their fantasies. Just like most rioters and looters.
In the end, people are responsible for their own actions, lemmings are not.

Just like the one guy in the Lincoln Project. Although their leaders actually did speak out against him. So I'm not sure why you tried to associate his actions with the entire Lincoln Project by calling out it in your post instead of the one man who did those horrible things.

Because we all know when one person does something bad, it reflects on all those around him who may have supported him at one point in time......

stimpy wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:33 pm

hepcat wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 3:07 pm

stimpy wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:40 pm but I think the people that took action were just waiting for an excuse, any excuse, to act out their fantasies. Just like most rioters and looters.
In the end, people are responsible for their own actions, lemmings are not.

Just like the one guy in the Lincoln Project. Although their leaders actually did speak out against him. So I'm not sure why you tried to associate his actions with the entire Lincoln Project by calling out it in your post instead of the one man who did those horrible things.

Because we all know when one person does something bad, it reflects on all those around him who may have supported him at one point in time......

Mike DeWine announced Monday that he wants to spend $50 million on a marketing campaign to convince East Coast and West Coast residents to live, work and spend their money in Ohio.

Meet the USPS Fairness Act.

USPS is forced to prefund its employees’ health care *50 years in advance* — the #1 cause of USPS’s money problems.

Last year we voted 309-106(!!) to repeal this monstrosity. Mcconnell blocked it for 333 days.

We are moving fast to pass it again.

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:42 pm How about no.

Mike DeWine announced Monday that he wants to spend $50 million on a marketing campaign to convince East Coast and West Coast residents to live, work and spend their money in Ohio.

El Guapo wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:45 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:42 pm How about no.

Mike DeWine announced Monday that he wants to spend $50 million on a marketing campaign to convince East Coast and West Coast residents to live, work and spend their money in Ohio.

Shouldn't we encourage this? It would help fix the problems with the Senate to move 'extra' Californians and New Yorkers to Ohio. To be sure it would be cheaper and more efficient to move them to Wyoming and Nebraska and the like, but if Ohio's putting up the money I'm fine with them as well.

Daehawk wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:32 pm Heres some useless tidbit info. Biden gave his pilots that fly him around a coin..one of those military coins..cant remember what they are called. Shook hands with them and always thanked them. Trump...nothing...didn't speak to them or acknowledge they were alive and no coin.

Daehawk wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:32 pm Heres some useless tidbit info. Biden gave his pilots that fly him around a coin..one of those military coins..cant remember what they are called. Shook hands with them and always thanked them. Trump...nothing...didn't speak to them or acknowledge they were alive and no coin.

Max Peck wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:26 am I've often thought that if Soros was the evil leftist mastermind that the right believes him to be, he'd be busily colonizing the low-population red states with enclaves of coastal elites and liberals.

Daehawk wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:32 pm Heres some useless tidbit info. Biden gave his pilots that fly him around a coin..one of those military coins..cant remember what they are called. Shook hands with them and always thanked them. Trump...nothing...didn't speak to them or acknowledge they were alive and no coin.

El Guapo wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:45 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:42 pm How about no.

Mike DeWine announced Monday that he wants to spend $50 million on a marketing campaign to convince East Coast and West Coast residents to live, work and spend their money in Ohio.

Shouldn't we encourage this? It would help fix the problems with the Senate to move 'extra' Californians and New Yorkers to Ohio. To be sure it would be cheaper and more efficient to move them to Wyoming and Nebraska and the like, but if Ohio's putting up the money I'm fine with them as well.

Faced with COVID-19 and the collapse of Wyoming’s coal industry, Republican Gov. Mark Gordon said recently that the state might have to start abandoning small towns because there’s not enough money to maintain their sewers and streets.
Sundance, Wyoming, is considering axing its entire police force because they can’t pay for it.

Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:34 pm Maybe if they weren't 47th in tax burden, they'd have more money.

Pyperkub wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:24 pm

El Guapo wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:45 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:42 pm How about no.

Mike DeWine announced Monday that he wants to spend $50 million on a marketing campaign to convince East Coast and West Coast residents to live, work and spend their money in Ohio.

Shouldn't we encourage this? It would help fix the problems with the Senate to move 'extra' Californians and New Yorkers to Ohio. To be sure it would be cheaper and more efficient to move them to Wyoming and Nebraska and the like, but if Ohio's putting up the money I'm fine with them as well.

Wyoming? No.

Faced with COVID-19 and the collapse of Wyoming’s coal industry, Republican Gov. Mark Gordon said recently that the state might have to start abandoning small towns because there’s not enough money to maintain their sewers and streets.
Sundance, Wyoming, is considering axing its entire police force because they can’t pay for it.

Paingod wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:15 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:34 pm Maybe if they weren't 47th in tax burden, they'd have more money.

I thought maybe you were being snarky, but no. It's true. Tax a little more, afford more services. That's not very GOP, though. It's better to die in the ditch than beg for a band-aid.

Paingod wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:15 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:34 pm Maybe if they weren't 47th in tax burden, they'd have more money.

I thought maybe you were being snarky, but no. It's true. Tax a little more, afford more services. That's not very GOP, though. It's better to die in the ditch than beg for a band-aid.

Sundance, Wyoming, is considering axing its entire police force because they can’t pay for it.

Pyperkub wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:24 pm

Faced with COVID-19 and the collapse of Wyoming’s coal industry, Republican Gov. Mark Gordon said recently that the state might have to start abandoning small towns because there’s not enough money to maintain their sewers and streets.
Sundance, Wyoming, is considering axing its entire police force because they can’t pay for it.

The Meal wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:36 pm
Local red staters *love* the idea of seceding, until blue staters point out it'd immediately make both states more Democratic.

El Guapo wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:52 pm Right, but if we moved in (say) 600,000 people from NYC, LA, SF, and SD, you'd have a lot larger tax base, plus a population more politically willing to support tax levels needed to actually maintain government.

WABC Radio inserted in the following statement before cutting back to Giuliani's show: "The views, assumptions and opinions expressed by former U.S. Attorney, former attorney to the President of the United States and New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, his guests and callers on the program are strictly their own, and do not necessarily represent the opinions, beliefs or policies of WABC Radio, its owner Red Apple Group and other WABC hosts or our advertisers.

"I would have thought they would have told me about that before just doing what they just did," Giuliani said after he came back on air. "Rather insulting."

Giuliani then tried to make the disclaimer some sort of free speech issye. "Gives you a sense of how far this free speech thing has gone. And how they frighten everybody. I mean, we're in America, we're not in East Germany. They got to warn you about me? I'm going to have to give that a lot of consideration. I also think putting it on without telling me, not the right thing to do. Not the right thing to do at all."

Formix wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:05 am

El Guapo wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:52 pm Right, but if we moved in (say) 600,000 people from NYC, LA, SF, and SD, you'd have a lot larger tax base, plus a population more politically willing to support tax levels needed to actually maintain government.

I actually love ideas like this. Like what if a like-minded group of 10,000 folks decided to move to one of these "failing towns" and completely dominate it and the surrounding county. Like a bunch of IT remote workers who are used to paying California taxes, and agreed to pay 50% of that in their Wyoming town, and show everyone else what that could do.

President Joe Biden has said his predecessor Donald Trump should not be given access to intelligence briefings because of his "erratic behaviour".

The US has a tradition of allowing former presidents to be briefed on the nation's security issues - as a courtesy extended by the incumbent.

But when asked by CBS News if Mr Trump would receive the same courtesy, President Biden said "I think not".

He cited Mr Trump's "erratic behaviour" as his reason for refusing access.

"I don't think there's any need for him to have an intelligence briefing," Mr Biden said in his first sit-down interview since becoming president.

He declined to speculate on what his worst fears would be if Mr Trump were allowed to see classified reports, but he suggested the former president could not be trusted to keep confidential information to himself.

"What value is giving him an intelligence briefing? What impact does he have at all, other than the fact he might slip and say something?" Mr Biden said.

YellowKing wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:13 am It shouldn't even be because he's erratic. We know he's compromised by the Russians. May as well set up a hotline info dump to Putin's phone.