Octopus Overlords

pr0ner wrote:Grund, while we debate this further, would you be willing to strike your vote of me from the record?

pr0ner wrote:Grund, while we debate this further, would you be willing to strike your vote of me from the record? I'm only two votes from termination, and the possibility of the wolves (since I'm not one) jumping on the bandwagon and killing me without a full discussion exists.

Dropping all other games from your thought process, and going off of only what's been presented to you in this game, does my behavior truly strike you as the behavior of a wolf?

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:

pr0ner wrote:Grund, while we debate this further, would you be willing to strike your vote of me from the record?

If you're not a wolf, I'd be shocked if one wolf hasn't already voted for you.

My guess is that the other wolf either hasn't voted or has voted for someone else.

pr0ner wrote:

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:

pr0ner wrote:Grund, while we debate this further, would you be willing to strike your vote of me from the record?

If you're not a wolf, I'd be shocked if one wolf hasn't already voted for you.

My guess is that the other wolf either hasn't voted or has voted for someone else.

But if we go on the assumption that I'm not a wolf, there's nothing that would stop a wolf currently voting for someone else to tip the balance on a moment's notice.

pr0ner wrote:Thanks for the vote withdraw, Grund. Sadly, continuing our discussion will have to be on hold for now, as I'm out the door to dinner, and won't be back for a few hours.

One thing I'd like to get your thoughts on in the meantime. What are your feelings on Archinerd?

He's made three posts so far: he asked what I've been up to with my nights, he was sarcastically happy about getting the first vote, then cast the first vote for me based on being off in my behavior (which you elaborated on), and then he vanished. That, to me at least, is more odd than my verbose behavior.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Following that line of reasoning (and if you're innocent), one of these players is probably a wolf:

Archinard
Grundbegriff
Cesare
Austin

Since a true wolf probably wouldn't cast the first vote, I'm going to say that Archinard is innocent.

So that leaves Grund, Cesare, and Austin as possible wolves.

If Grund was a wolf, I don't think he would be as forceful in his condemnation of you as he has been. So I'm ruling him out.

That leaves Cesare and Austin as potential wolves. But which one? That I haven't figured out yet.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Following that line of reasoning (and if you're innocent), one of these players is probably a wolf:

Archinard
Grundbegriff
Cesare
Austin

Since a true wolf probably wouldn't cast the first vote, I'm going to say that Archinard is innocent.

So that leaves Grund, Cesare, and Austin as possible wolves.

If Grund was a wolf, I don't think he would be as forceful in his condemnation of you as he has been. So I'm ruling him out.

That leaves Cesare and Austin as potential wolves. But which one? That I haven't figured out yet.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Following that line of reasoning (and if you're innocent), one of these players is probably a wolf:

Archinard
Grundbegriff
Cesare
Austin

Since a true wolf probably wouldn't cast the first vote, I'm going to say that Archinard is innocent.

So that leaves Grund, Cesare, and Austin as possible wolves.

If Grund was a wolf, I don't think he would be as forceful in his condemnation of you as he has been. So I'm ruling him out.

That leaves Cesare and Austin as potential wolves. But which one? That I haven't figured out yet.

Cesare wrote: Heh. Nice try.

You're assuming pr0ner is innocent, which is still up in the air, but you immediately try really hard to shift wolf-blame on either me or Austin.

..the whole thing smacks of effort.

Grundbegriff wrote: No vote registered yet: Austin, Bakhtosh, Grundbegriff, pr0ner

Grundbegriff wrote:Heading for bed. Here's an update:

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Kelric acc Archinerd ("for the hell of it")
Lassr acc Austin ("seems overly active and it's bugging me")
  pr0ner acc Austin ("simply because he's irked me from the start")
Archinerd acc pr0ner ("is most out of character")
  Grundbegriff acc pr0ner ("probable evildoer")
Cesare acc pr0ner ("based on what we know (practically nothing)")
Ralph-Wiggum acc tru1cy ("has stood out with ... lack of posting")
  pr0ner wd Austin
  pr0ner acc tru1cy ("It would be far better to lie low")
tru1cy acc tru1cy ("I'm not a wolf, so losing me is no great concern")
  pr0ner wd tru1cy
PR_GMR acc Ralph-Wiggum ("My sixth sense is tingling")
  Grundbegriff wd pr0ner ("as a courtesy to provide him the requested buffer")
  Lassr wd Austin
Lassr acc pr0ner ("is bugging me now")

Against Archinerd(1): Kelric
Against pr0ner(3): Archinerd, Cesare, Lassr
Against tru1cy(2): Ralph-Wiggum, tru1cy
Against Ralph-Wiggum(1): PR_GMR

No vote registered yet: Austin, Bakhtosh, Grundbegriff, pr0ner

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:

Grundbegriff wrote:No vote registered yet: Austin, Bakhtosh, Grundbegriff, pr0ner

Unless I'm mistaken, Austin has voted (and hasn't withdrawn his vote) for pr0ner.

Kelric acc Archinerd ("for the hell of it")
Lassr acc Austin ("seems overly active and it's bugging me")
  pr0ner acc Austin ("simply because he's irked me from the start")
Archinerd acc pr0ner ("is most out of character")
  Grundbegriff acc pr0ner ("probable evildoer")
Cesare acc pr0ner ("based on what we know (practically nothing)")
Ralph-Wiggum acc tru1cy ("has stood out with ... lack of posting")
  pr0ner wd Austin
  pr0ner acc tru1cy ("It would be far better to lie low")
tru1cy acc tru1cy ("I'm not a wolf, so losing me is no great concern")
  pr0ner wd tru1cy
PR_GMR acc Ralph-Wiggum ("My sixth sense is tingling")
Austin acc pr0ner ("Does seem a bit odd.... Best I can guess at")
  Grundbegriff wd pr0ner ("as a courtesy to provide him the requested buffer")
  Lassr wd Austin
Lassr acc pr0ner ("is bugging me now")

Austin wrote:Where is Bahktosh anyway?

Bakhtosh wrote:Right...dial-up sucks the big one. That, a sick daughter and lots of home projects kept me offline this weekend.

Catching up now.

pr0ner wrote:Grund, while we debate this further, would you be willing to strike your vote of me from the record? I'm only two votes from termination, and the possibility of the wolves (since I'm not one) jumping on the bandwagon and killing me without a full discussion exists.

Archinerd wrote:Is it possible that Grund and pr0ner worked something out behind the scenes to give Grund an 'out' for not voting for a friend?

Even if this is not the case, it is still odd that pr0ner singled Grund out of the rest of us.

Archinerd wrote:

pr0ner wrote:Grund, while we debate this further, would you be willing to strike your vote of me from the record? I'm only two votes from termination, and the possibility of the wolves (since I'm not one) jumping on the bandwagon and killing me without a full discussion exists.

This post makes me more suspicious.

pr0ner is rarely this verbose, we've been over this. Grund pointed it out also. What is interesting is that pr0ner could have asked anyone to withdraw their votes long enough for discussion, but he specifically asked Grund to. Is it possible that Grund and pr0ner worked something out behind the scenes to give Grund an 'out' for not voting for a friend?

Even if this is not the case, it is still odd that pr0ner singled Grund out of the rest of us.

Grundbegriff wrote:

pr0ner wrote:Thanks for the vote withdraw, Grund. Sadly, continuing our discussion will have to be on hold for now, as I'm out the door to dinner, and won't be back for a few hours.

Bait and switch, eh?

Bon appétit! Who's the victim?

One thing I'd like to get your thoughts on in the meantime. What are your feelings on Archinerd?

Why would you ask me that when I (and I alone) have already shared my thoughts about everyone, including Archinerd under (h), right here?

If you're trying to seem less suspicious, you're not doing very well. Having gained an opportunity to discuss your possible imminent demise, you (a) bail, which is understandable in view of pesky Reality, and (b) waste the opportunity by hashing over stuff already in the record.

That's weird, Broderick.

He's made three posts so far: he asked what I've been up to with my nights, he was sarcastically happy about getting the first vote, then cast the first vote for me based on being off in my behavior (which you elaborated on), and then he vanished. That, to me at least, is more odd than my verbose behavior.

Well, that's why I said "I guess the two who seem most interesting at this point are pr0ner and Archinerd." Yeah, he's making the antennae pulse. But you're making 'em pulse more.

It does look as if Archinerd's gunning for you a bit. My problem is that I don't know whether that sort of thing is normal for him. It's true that a forward Vampire will sometimes ride and harass an innocent until it comes across like overplaying the hand. Maybe Archinerd's doing that (or maybe he was doing that, until you called him out on it).

What I do know-- or think I know-- is that your behavior isn't consistent with how you've played in the past. I considered voting against each of you, and you won. This much is clear, though; since Archinerd is gunning for you, you're probably not on the same team. If we do lynch one of you and the hanged is innocent, the other is gonna have some splainin' to do.

pr0ner wrote:The problem I have with everything you're saying is that you are/were trying to convince everyone to railroad me to my death based on a suspicion.

The posts of mine you've quoted in the past is grasping for straws.

I could just as easily cite your comments that you've been "running with the wolves" and that I'm not fighting "tooth and nail" and your "Bon appétit! Who's the victim?" comment

which one of us has the better case? I'd say neither, since we're both going off wild suspicion that we see in each others' posts that has no real basis in logic, only idle speculation.

pr0ner wrote:Weee, way to go, killing the seer on day 1.