Octopus Overlords

Anonymous Bosch wrote:
For all the praise of her experience earlier in this thread, I think Hillary Clinton is actually an incredibly inept and wooden political candidate (i.e. similar to Mitt Romney, in that while he was certainly qualified and could've been a perfectly capable POTUS, he was an absolutely awful candidate for reasons not entirely dissimilar to HRC).

Rip wrote:Don't even get me started on the absurdness of suggesting she needed to carry multiple devices to have multiple e-mail accounts.

Exodor wrote:

Rip wrote:Don't even get me started on the absurdness of suggesting she needed to carry multiple devices to have multiple e-mail accounts.

She did specific "blackberry" - is it possible to setup multiple accounts on one?

It's been so long since I worked with one I don't remember.

It's still an incredibly flimsy excuse and doesn't explain anything to my satisfaction

Clinton said she didn't send any classified information with her email, but asserted that there were no security breaches on the server anyway, which she said had been set up for President Bill Clinton's use, was housed on private property and guarded by Secret Service agents.

LordMortis wrote:

Exodor wrote:

Rip wrote:Don't even get me started on the absurdness of suggesting she needed to carry multiple devices to have multiple e-mail accounts.

She did specific "blackberry" - is it possible to setup multiple accounts on one?

It's been so long since I worked with one I don't remember.

It's still an incredibly flimsy excuse and doesn't explain anything to my satisfaction

If it's been so long since you worked on one, then probably not. None of the models we had 6 years ago could do multiple accounts. My users are slowly going back to blackberries because they are the only phones you seem to be able to get with physical keyboards anymore. Both models circulating in my office today and do multiple accounts just like an Android or IPhone.

Rip wrote:Hillary is turning out to be pretty much Nixon Like. He expected everyone to believe him that there was nothing on the missing tapes. She expect everyone to believe there was nothing in the missing e-mails.

Don't even get me started on the absurdness of suggesting she needed to carry multiple devices to have multiple e-mail accounts.

To review, she asserted 1) a thorough investigation that included "going through" roughly 60,000 emails; 2) a standard of erring on the side of disclosing "anything" that could "possibly" be viewed as work related; 3) a "thorough" process robust enough to warrant "absolute confidence" in its results; 4) a process to turn over emails that could plausibly be characterized as "unprecedented."

Nearly everyone listening to these assurances came away with the impression that a person or team of people went through those 60,000+ emails and sorted them into two categories: work or personal. On The Daily Show, Jon Stewart mocked the notion that sorting through tens of thousands of emails was more "convenient" than maintaining both work and personal email accounts. Most criticism of the approach focused on the fact that Hillary Clinton confidantes, rather than neutral arbiters, were making the judgment calls about these 60,000+ emails.

But it turns out that no one was "going through" each email to sort work from personal correspondence or to error on the side of disclosure when the line was blurry.

Don’t expect a gold mine of emails on Hillary’s private account. Why not? Because she doesn’t know how to type. That’s right. She writes everything out in longhand. Really. Anyone who has spent time in meetings with her knows about her endless yellow pads.

Bill can’t type either. When I wrote his 1995 State of the Union Speech, I typed it on an IBM Selectric that the White House dug up from the basement. He told me that he didn’t want me to put it in the official computer system, because then his staff would see it.

So, he carefully copied every word in his distinctive left hand penmanship. I still have a copy of it. Then he pretended that he had written it himself.

The Clintons have figured out every which way to avoid disclosure of what they want to keep private. So don’t expect a smoking gun in Hillary’s emails.

Look, instead, to Huma, Cheryl, Jake Sullivan, and Philippe Reines — if they still exist.

Hillary Clinton expected to announce 2016 presidential campaign Sunday: source

Rip wrote:

Don’t expect a gold mine of emails on Hillary’s private account. Why not? Because she doesn’t know how to type. That’s right. She writes everything out in longhand. Really. Anyone who has spent time in meetings with her knows about her endless yellow pads.

Really?

Bill can’t type either. When I wrote his 1995 State of the Union Speech, I typed it on an IBM Selectric that the White House dug up from the basement. He told me that he didn’t want me to put it in the official computer system, because then his staff would see it.

So, he carefully copied every word in his distinctive left hand penmanship. I still have a copy of it. Then he pretended that he had written it himself.

The Clintons have figured out every which way to avoid disclosure of what they want to keep private. So don’t expect a smoking gun in Hillary’s emails.

Look, instead, to Huma, Cheryl, Jake Sullivan, and Philippe Reines — if they still exist.

http://thehillarydaily.com/hillary-cant ... ls-emails/

Fireball wrote: Doesn't surprise me at all. People approaching 70 generally didn't grow up typing, and never learned.

Fireball wrote:My dad is the same age as Hillary and Bill, and was a lawyer as well. Like them, he cannot type. Hunting and pecking does not count. My mother could type in college, but never had use for it, like most adults of her age, in the 70s or 80s, and by the time computers became truly commonplace in the 90s she could no longer type. None of their friends can really type, except for the couple that had corporate (non-lawyer) jobs and don't retire until the early 2000s. Most professional jobs didn't require typing skills until the 90s.

Rip wrote:I don't think not typing is as interesting as never writing your own emails. Having someone else write your emails is pretty pathetic.

LawBeefaroni wrote:

Rip wrote:I don't think not typing is as interesting as never writing your own emails. Having someone else write your emails is pretty pathetic.

Eh, it's a living. Not as good as being above margin requirements but it's a living.

And typing your own emails is certainly not a job requirement of the Presidency. In fact, having someone else write your emails is probably required. Can you think of president in your lifetime who typed their own communications?

LawBeefaroni wrote:And typing your own emails is certainly not a job requirement of the Presidency. In fact, having someone else write your emails is probably required. Can you think of president in your lifetime who typed their own communications?

Kraken wrote:Typing class was mandatory in the 1960s, but boys treated it with disdain. Men have secretaries, and that's women's work. I can imagine that Hillary might have shunned it for the same reason -- disdain for menial skills that she was determined to never need.

Rip wrote:

Kraken wrote:Typing class was mandatory in the 1960s, but boys treated it with disdain. Men have secretaries, and that's women's work. I can imagine that Hillary might have shunned it for the same reason -- disdain for menial skills that she was determined to never need.

That sounds like just the kind of person I want running the country.

GreenGoo wrote:I don't get it.

Out of touch with what? (not directed at you specifically Chris. I'm having difficulty understanding what the problem is. Rip said it was pathetic. What is?).

GreenGoo wrote:I don't get it.

Out of touch with what? (not directed at you specifically Chris. I'm having difficulty understanding what the problem is. Rip said it was pathetic. What is?).

Zarathud wrote:By the dawn of the internet age (the Clinton administration), Hillary has been surrounded by other people to do her bidding. If you have learned to write or compose in your head, it is MUCH faster to dictate and review correspondence because you can focus on the message rather than typing the words. It also gains you some distance in reviewing.

If I didn't share a secretary with several other lawyers, I would be better at dictating. It really does improve an executive's efficiency at the cost of additional time/staffing to respond. That's a rational choice for Hillary as an executive to make. You don't hire a President for their typing skills.