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Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:36 pm
by Defiant

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:53 pm
by Blackhawk
See? Trump's election made the whole planet pucker.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:37 pm
by Max Peck
In clash with Trump, U.S. report says humans cause climate change
The rapid pace of global climate change is almost certainly driven by human activity, like burning fossil fuels, according to a U.S. government report that contradicts assertions by President Donald Trump and members of his administration.

“For the warming over the last century, there is no convincing alternative explanation supported by the extent of the observational evidence,” said the report by a group of more than 50 U.S. government scientists released on Friday.

The report, which is required by Congress every four years, was written by scientists from government bodies such as the Environmental Protection Agency and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

It reinforces the conclusions drawn by an overwhelming majority of scientists around the world in recent years that emissions from burning fossil fuels are the primary driver of global warming, leading to sea level rise, flooding, droughts, and more frequent powerful storms.

Trump has repeatedly called climate change a hoax, and in June announced that he would withdraw the United States from a global pact to combat it - calling the deal’s demands for emissions cuts too costly for the U.S. economy.

War-torn Syria is the only other country outside the pact.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:08 am
by Kraken
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When your opinions don't gibe with reality, it's time to change your opinions.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:28 am
by Max Peck
The word on the street is that perhaps the report survived because the head of the White House office that was supposed to suppress it, the Office of Science and Technology Policy, hasn't been staffed yet. :coffee:

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:54 am
by Isgrimnur
Truffles
Researchers from the University of Cambridge and Mycorrhizal Systems Ltd (MSL) have confirmed that a black truffle has been successfully cultivated in the UK for the first time: the farthest north that the species has ever been found.
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After nine years of waiting, the truffle was harvested in March 2017 by a trained dog named Bella. The aromatic fungus was growing within the root system of a Mediterranean oak tree that had been treated to encourage truffle production. Further microscopic and genetic analysis confirmed that Bella’s find was indeed a Périgord black truffle (Tuber melanosporum).

The black truffle is one of the most expensive delicacies in the world, worth as much as £1,700 per kilogram. Black truffles are prized for their intense flavour and aroma, but they are difficult and time-consuming to grow and harvest, and are normally confined to regions with a Mediterranean climate. In addition, their Mediterranean habitat has been affected by drought due to long-term climate change, and yields are falling while the global demand continues to rise.
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The researchers have attributed the fact that black truffles are able to grow so far outside their native Mediterranean habitat to climate change. “Different species respond to climate change on different scales and at different rates, and you often get an ecological mismatch,” said Büntgen. “For instance, insects can move quickly, while the vegetation they depend on may not. It’s possible that truffles are one of these fast-shifting species.”
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The first harvested truffle, which weighed 16 grams, has been preserved for posterity, but in future, the truffles will be distributed to restaurants in the UK.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:10 pm
by Paingod
Next up, truffle prices plummet as viable soils spread and production increases. Thanks Obama ! :evil:

I was listening to the NPR on the way in the other day, and they were running a piece on research into soil warming and microbial CO2 release. The gist was along 2010 article, and 2017 article. The short of it is that as temperatures rise, microbes in the soil will churn out more CO2 into the atmosphere for a while, hibernate for a few years while they adapt, and then resume as they consume harder to digest things like lignin.

The scientist was basically saying that we're pumping out 10billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, but his study concluded that these soil microbes could produce about 320 years of our current pollution rates in around 10 years once they get going - lending to a runaway greenhouse effect.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:15 pm
by Isgrimnur
Macron
French President Emmanuel Macron said Wednesday that France would cover the amount the U.S. contributed for climate science research to a United Nations panel after President Trump signaled America would exit the Paris climate change pact.

“They will not miss a single euro,” Macron said, according to Reuters, referring to the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

The U.S. has given the IPCC about 2 million euros a year in the past.
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Earlier this month, an official in Macron's cabinet said Trump is "for the time being" not invited to the climate change summit scheduled to be held next month in France.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:34 pm
by tjg_marantz

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:40 pm
by Kraken
tjg_marantz wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:34 pm Oof. This is hard to watch.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/201 ... hange-spd/
National Geographic is one of the websites whose videos are always a plan black screen in firefox. I'm told that it's because they put an ad trailer on the front, or something nefarious like that. I'll just try to imagine a skinny polar bear who's lost the will to live.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:43 am
by Max Peck
France awards U.S. climate scientists grants to 'Make Our Planet Great Again'
Eighteen climate scientists from the U.S. and elsewhere hit the jackpot Monday as French President Emmanuel Macron awarded them millions of euros in grants to relocate to France for the rest of Donald Trump's presidential term.

The "Make Our Planet Great Again" grants — a nod to Trump's "Make America Great Again" campaign slogan — are part of Macron's efforts to counter Trump on the climate change front. Macron announced a contest for the projects in June, hours after Trump declared he would withdraw the U.S. from the Paris climate accord.

More than 5,000 people from about 100 countries expressed interest in the grants. A majority of the applicants — and 13 of the 18 winners — were U.S.-based researchers.

Macron's appeal "gave me such a psychological boost, to have that kind of support, to have the head of state saying I value what you do," said winner Camille Parmesan, of the University of Texas at Austin. She will be working at an experimental ecology station in the Pyrenees on how human-made climate change is affecting wildlife.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Parmesan described funding challenges for climate science in the U.S. and a feeling that "you are having to hide what you do."
Presumably this means that Freedom Fries will soon be back on the menu in Washington.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:33 am
by Kraken
"Camille Parmesan" sounds suspiciously French-Italian anyway.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:12 am
by Blackhawk
Kraken wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:33 am "Camille Parmesan" sounds suspiciously French-Italian anyway.
I would have gone with drag queen, but French-Italian works.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:56 am
by em2nought
The global warming has reached a chilly 40 degrees here below Orlando tonight. :mrgreen:

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:36 am
by Unagi
you should read up a little on the records being set in Alaska. :ugeek:

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:31 pm
by Alefroth
em2nought wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:56 am The global warming has reached a chilly 40 degrees here below Orlando tonight. :mrgreen:
How far below? Are we talking Morlock level?

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:45 pm
by Jaymann
Alefroth wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:31 pm
em2nought wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:56 am The global warming has reached a chilly 40 degrees here below Orlando tonight. :mrgreen:
How far below? Are we talking Morlock level?
At least the Morlocks understand the difference between weather and climate.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:09 pm
by em2nought
Alefroth wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:31 pm
em2nought wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:56 am The global warming has reached a chilly 40 degrees here below Orlando tonight. :mrgreen:
How far below? Are we talking Morlock level?
Yep :mrgreen:
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Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:53 am
by malchior

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:59 am
by GreenGoo
I'm sure the military is just peachy with it, since they were the ones who identified it as a threat in the first place.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:30 pm
by Rip
Obviously Trump fixed it and it is no longer a threat.

WINNING!

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:37 pm
by GreenGoo
If you can't talk about it it doesn't exist.
:shifty:

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:39 am
by Paingod
One imagines the security agencies are just in "Smile and Nod" mode until we can get a real president back.

Republican, Democrat - I don't care as long as they acknowledge scientific evidence as reality and stop ripping apart the US as a global leader.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:23 pm
by Pyperkub
Paingod wrote:One imagines the security agencies are just in "Smile and Nod" mode until we can get a real president back.

Republican, Democrat - I don't care as long as they acknowledge scientific evidence as reality and stop ripping apart the US as a global leader.
I'm pretty sure we weren't just "a" global leader, but rather "the" global leader.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:27 pm
by Zaxxon
Pyperkub wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:23 pmI'm pretty sure we weren't just "a" global leader, but rather "the" global leader.
On the bright side, we've fallen "only" to "a" global embarrassment, rather than "the" global embarrassment. So far.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:02 pm
by Pyperkub
Zaxxon wrote:
Pyperkub wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:23 pmI'm pretty sure we weren't just "a" global leader, but rather "the" global leader.
On the bright side, we've fallen "only" to "a" global embarrassment, rather than "the" global embarrassment. So far.
Always look on the bright side of life!

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:29 pm
by Captain Caveman
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 7229701120

I hate him so much.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:54 pm
by RunningMn9
Stiggin’it to those stupid libruls!!


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Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:09 pm
by Rip
Meh.

If the liberals can scream about climate change every time there is a storm or a warm period why shouldn't he flip it?

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:15 pm
by Zaxxon
It's almost as though he doesn't realize that coldest NYE on record is evidence *for* the thing he's raging on about.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:26 pm
by GreenGoo
Rip wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:09 pm Meh.

If the liberals can scream about climate change every time there is a storm or a warm period why shouldn't he flip it?
As long as climate scientists aren't saying it, I don't give a crap what random liberals are saying, why do you? Or, in this case, what the president of the US is saying. Drumpf has made it incredibly easy to simply ignore or discount anything US leadership says or does.

And that's just one way he has diminished the US's standing in every aspect, not just climate change.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:46 pm
by Skinypupy
Rip wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:09 pm Meh.

If the liberals can scream about climate change every time there is a storm or a warm period why shouldn't he flip it?
97% of climate change scientists =! "random liberals", but you know that already.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:48 pm
by em2nought
GreenGoo wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:26 pm And that's just one way he has diminished the US's standing in every aspect, not just climate change.
Most of us didn't ask for such a big part on the world's stage in the first place. Let the heir apparent, China, take over. Then we'll see how much the rest of the world likes that. :ninja:

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:02 am
by RunningMn9
em2nought wrote:Most of us didn't ask for such a big part on the world's stage in the first place.
Spoken like a true leader. Not everyone is as cowardly as you though.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:03 am
by GreenGoo
em2nought wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:48 pm
GreenGoo wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:26 pm And that's just one way he has diminished the US's standing in every aspect, not just climate change.
Most of us didn't ask for such a big part on the world's stage in the first place. Let the heir apparent, China, take over. Then we'll see how much the rest of the world likes that. :ninja:
Do you remember why the US took a leading role in world geopolitics or even when it occurred? Have those reasons become less important as time goes on? Why would you willingly want your country to become diminished? Why do you hate America?

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:34 am
by Holman
GreenGoo wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:03 am
em2nought wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:48 pm
GreenGoo wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:26 pm And that's just one way he has diminished the US's standing in every aspect, not just climate change.
Most of us didn't ask for such a big part on the world's stage in the first place. Let the heir apparent, China, take over. Then we'll see how much the rest of the world likes that. :ninja:
Do you remember why the US took a leading role in world geopolitics or even when it occurred? Have those reasons become less important as time goes on? Why would you willingly want your country to become diminished? Why do you hate America?
Reactionaries and racists are down to embracing collapse as their best shot at hurting people.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:14 pm
by em2nought
Bahahaha! Mini Ice Age incoming! :ninja:
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Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:07 pm
by GreenGoo
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Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:07 pm
by Kraken
Some scientists believe that this winter's unusual cold snaps are indeed a counterintuitive consequence of global warming. Ordinarily, the temperature differential between the polar region and the lower latitudes constrains the Jet Stream within a predictable range and keeps the cold air swirling around the pole. With the Arctic warming faster than the rest of the world, that temperature differential is weaker. The Jet Stream can meander more, carrying these Arctic blasts south.

The decreasing stability of the Jet Stream is well documented. However, the aforementioned explanation for its wandering remains unproven. Global warming might be responsible for colder, snowier winters, but the mechanism remains hypothetical and the consequences are not consistent.

It's foolish to think that snow in Florida contradicts a warming planet, but premature to say that it's a consequence of same.

Re: The Global Warming Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:37 am
by em2nought
GreenGoo wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:07 pm Enlarge Image
hehe :idea:
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