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Kurth wrote:Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse, this extract from Wolff’s book is a shocking insight into Trump’s mind:

Skinypupy wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:51 pm Trump's latest judiciary nominee for Utah thinks gay judges shouldn't hear LGBT cases.

Neilson represented the plaintiffs in Hollingsworth v. Perry,133 S. Ct. 2652 (2013), defending Proposition 8, which would have banned same-sex marriage in California.

- After the district court, in Perry v. Schwarzenegger, 704 F. Supp. 2d 921 (N.D. Cal. 2010), ruled that Proposition 8 was unconstitutional, Nielson filed a Motion to Vacate the judgment. Nielson’s motion argued that the judge, Chief Judge Vaughn Walker, a Reagan appointee, “had a duty to disclose not only the facts concerning his [same-sex] relationship, but also his marriage intentions.”

- Nielson’s motion reflected the rhetoric of certain right-wing groups. The American Family Association said that it was “extremely problematic that Judge Walker is a practicing homosexual himself. He should have recused himself from this case, because his judgment is clearly compromised by his own sexual proclivity.” Conservative activist Tony Perkins specifically said that Judge Walker’s decision was compromised by the fact he is “openly homosexual.”

- Nielson argued, in attempting to vacate the judgment, that only if Judge Walker had “unequivocally disavowed any interest in marrying his partner could the parties and the public be confident that he did not have a direct personal interest in the outcome[.]”

The best people. Just the best.

Defiant wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:20 am

Skinypupy wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:51 pm Trump's latest judiciary nominee for Utah thinks gay judges shouldn't hear LGBT cases.

Neilson represented the plaintiffs in Hollingsworth v. Perry,133 S. Ct. 2652 (2013), defending Proposition 8, which would have banned same-sex marriage in California.

- After the district court, in Perry v. Schwarzenegger, 704 F. Supp. 2d 921 (N.D. Cal. 2010), ruled that Proposition 8 was unconstitutional, Nielson filed a Motion to Vacate the judgment. Nielson’s motion argued that the judge, Chief Judge Vaughn Walker, a Reagan appointee, “had a duty to disclose not only the facts concerning his [same-sex] relationship, but also his marriage intentions.”

- Nielson’s motion reflected the rhetoric of certain right-wing groups. The American Family Association said that it was “extremely problematic that Judge Walker is a practicing homosexual himself. He should have recused himself from this case, because his judgment is clearly compromised by his own sexual proclivity.” Conservative activist Tony Perkins specifically said that Judge Walker’s decision was compromised by the fact he is “openly homosexual.”

- Nielson argued, in attempting to vacate the judgment, that only if Judge Walker had “unequivocally disavowed any interest in marrying his partner could the parties and the public be confident that he did not have a direct personal interest in the outcome[.]”

The best people. Just the best.

Does that mean straight people shouldn't listen to all the non-LGBT cases?

pr0ner wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:45 am This is a great story. Lots of Trump's morning tweets (and tweets in general) can be chalked up to things he watched on Fox (especially Fox and Friends) a few minutes prior.

Chaz wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:22 am It's all pretty stunning, but I think the topper is writing out "like."

Truly, the most stable genius is the one who has to say he is a stable genius.

Fitzy wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:12 pm So smart and so stable he forgot his first presidential run. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Tr ... aign,_2000

Fitzy wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:12 pm So smart and so stable he forgot his first presidential run. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Tr ... aign,_2000

Tao wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:48 pm Last year I wanted a shirt that read "You're the Puppet!", simply because it's a great line and a great comeback, this year I want a shirt that simply reads, "I'm a stable genius".

RunningMn9 wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:29 pm I’m going to guess - sight unseen - that Jake Tapper did not in fact get destroyed in an interview with that weasel.

Skinypupy wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:38 pm
That’s why this is all a worthless exercise. No one’s mind will ever be changed as a result of anything said in that interview. It emboldens the Trumpkins “the media is against us” narrative, while the rest of us just roll our eyes at Miller’s constant stream of ass-kissing and bullshit and applaud Tapper for ending it as a result.

End result is that both sides dig in even harder.

Chaz wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:08 pm The bad news is that they're working on making sure that the only ones with access to decent education are the wealthy white folks who can afford to pay for it.

The Fake News Awards, those going to the most corrupt & biased of the Mainstream Media, will be presented to the losers on Wednesday, January 17th, rather than this coming Monday. The interest in, and importance of, these awards is far greater than anyone could have anticipated!

Holman wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:28 pm

The Fake News Awards, those going to the most corrupt & biased of the Mainstream Media, will be presented to the losers on Wednesday, January 17th, rather than this coming Monday. The interest in, and importance of, these awards is far greater than anyone could have anticipated!

You had all weekend to do this assignment.

Skinypupy wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:21 pm

Chaz wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:08 pm The bad news is that they're working on making sure that the only ones with access to decent education are the wealthy white folks who can afford to pay for it.

Either that, or Jesus-cation.

Or both.

Holman wrote:

The Fake News Awards, those going to the most corrupt & biased of the Mainstream Media, will be presented to the losers on Wednesday, January 17th, rather than this coming Monday. The interest in, and importance of, these awards is far greater than anyone could have anticipated!

You had all weekend to do this assignment.

Kraken wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:45 pm

Willful ignorance is self-reinforcing and apparently ascendant...but reality has a stubborn way of seeping in.

GreenGoo wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:08 pm

Kraken wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:45 pm

Willful ignorance is self-reinforcing and apparently ascendant...but reality has a stubborn way of seeping in.

The real problem is not a lack of education or information, it's tribalism.

There is not a wide gap between moderate conservatives and moderate liberals, but the issues rarely get examined in detail because they are too busy hating each other.

Drumpf has been closer to a liberal his entire life, yet when he slapped a Republican label on himself suddenly he's the right's saviour. It's ludicrous.

The Christian right's embracing of this absolutely ungodly man is the clearest indicator yet that platforms are irrelevant, only which team you're on matters.

How do you educate out of that?