gilraen wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:51 pm
Reports coming out that 75% of immigrant farm workers didn't show up for work yesterday in Bakersfield, CA, due to fear of ICE raids.
Seeing that it's in CA will just make MAGA go "eh". We need them to not show up for work in places like TX and FL. I get that not working means not being able to feed your family but I imagine their collective influence would be felt by just not working for a few days.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:54 pm
by Archinerd
ICE has started targeting schools in Chicago. They were refused entry to the building, this time. I can't even begin to describe how angry this makes me.
Archinerd wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:54 pm
ICE has started targeting schools in Chicago. They were refused entry to the building, this time. I can't even begin to describe how angry this makes me.
Is it me or does it seem like ICE is going after the hard targets first? Why not start in the states that complained about this problem, like Texas and Florida? You know, the easy states? Or are they already doing that and we just don't hear about it?
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:04 pm
by Smoove_B
raydude wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:02 pm
Is it me or does it seem like ICE is going after the hard targets first? Why not start in the states that complained about this problem, like Texas and Florida? You know, the easy states? Or are they already doing that and we just don't hear about it?
I haven't seen anything online indicating ICE has done enforcement in places like TX or FL, no. It could also be if they are it's being done with support so it's not going to hit the news like it did for Chicago or NJ.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:04 pm
by ImLawBoy
Because those states want their migrants for cheap labor. Double whammy to punish blue states by sowing fear and removing labor.
Archinerd wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:54 pm
ICE has started targeting schools in Chicago. They were refused entry to the building, this time. I can't even begin to describe how angry this makes me.
Is it me or does it seem like ICE is going after the hard targets first? Why not start in the states that complained about this problem, like Texas and Florida? You know, the easy states? Or are they already doing that and we just don't hear about it?
These ICE raids aren't about migrants per se, they're about punishing blue cities for being blue.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:46 pm
by El Guapo
ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:04 pm
Because those states want their migrants for cheap labor. Double whammy to punish blue states by sowing fear and removing labor.
One also shouldn't forget about the Narrative. Red MAGA states can't be the problem because they are run by god fearing (white) Christians. So the problem must be those minority coddling liberals in blue states. So why would you step up enforcement in the MAGA states?
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:47 pm
by Smoove_B
Plus, word on the street is someone is bussing "illegals" to the Blue states from the border. We should look into that too.
raydude wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:02 pm
Is it me or does it seem like ICE is going after the hard targets first? Why not start in the states that complained about this problem, like Texas and Florida? You know, the easy states? Or are they already doing that and we just don't hear about it?
I haven't seen anything online indicating ICE has done enforcement in places like TX or FL, no. It could also be if they are it's being done with support so it's not going to hit the news like it did for Chicago or NJ.
I wouldn't have thought it's the later but it's the later. Google it and it's in local news all over Texas.
Max Peck wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:08 pm
These ICE raids aren't about migrants per se, they're about punishing blue cities for being blue.
That, and the hope that a show of force will provoke protests that will justify tear gas and billy clubs, as with the BLM actions.
Putting down "antifa" "rioters" makes for excellent visuals.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:46 pm
by Archinerd
Archinerd wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:54 pm
ICE has started targeting schools in Chicago. They were refused entry to the building, this time. I can't even begin to describe how angry this makes me.
Archinerd wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:54 pm
ICE has started targeting schools in Chicago. They were refused entry to the building, this time. I can't even begin to describe how angry this makes me.
Archinerd wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:54 pm
ICE has started targeting schools in Chicago. They were refused entry to the building, this time. I can't even begin to describe how angry this makes me.
Mexico has refused a request from President Donald Trump's administration to allow a U.S. military aircraft deporting migrants to land in the country, a U.S. official and a Mexican official told Reuters.
U.S. military aircraft carried out two similar flights, each with about 80 migrants, to Guatemala on Friday. The government was not able to move ahead with a plan to have a C-17 transport aircraft land in Mexico, however, after the country denied permission.
A U.S. official and a Mexican official confirmed the decision, which was first reported by NBC News. The Mexican official did not provide a reason for the denial.
Archinerd wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:54 pm
ICE has started targeting schools in Chicago. They were refused entry to the building, this time. I can't even begin to describe how angry this makes me.
Update. Not ICE agents, Secret Service looking for an 11 year old who posted an anti-trump video.
Was it a threatening video or just a Trump smells like voodoo type of video?
Dunno. Either way It seems like it's hard to justify that type of response. Not a lot of info to go on at the moment
Well if it was a threatening one, I could understand it.
If it was a blah anti Trump one I'd ask what happened to him stopping the government from impacting free speeech.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:38 pm
by $iljanus
Hmmm, quotas for arrests. What can go wrong I wonder?
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials have been directed by Trump officials to aggressively ramp up the number of people they arrest, from a few hundred per day to at least 1,200 to 1,500, because the president has been disappointed with the results of his mass deportation campaign so far, according to four people with knowledge of the briefings.
The quotas were outlined Saturday in a call with senior ICE officials, who were told that each of the agency’s field offices should make 75 arrests per day and managers would be held accountable for missing those targets. The four people spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose internal briefings.
The orders significantly increase the chance that officers will engage in more indiscriminate enforcement tactics or face accusations of civil rights violations as they strain to meet quotas, according to current and former ICE officials.
“GET ME THE USUAL SUSPECTS!”
Am I bad if I hope that some of the folks who love to talk about how they or their parents came the right way were swept up by accident?
Bishop Mark J. Seitz, chairman of the Catholic organization's migration committee, along with leaders of other Catholic groups, wrote in a Thursday statement that “non-emergency immigration enforcement” in sensitive areas like places of worship are “contrary to the common good.”
"Turning places of care, healing, and solace into places of fear and uncertainty for those in need, while endangering the trust between pastors, providers, educators and the people they serve, will not make our communities safer," they said.
The Trump administration last week reversed guidance that immigration enforcement should not “restrain people’s access to essential services or engagement in essential activities.” The places included are often referred to as "sensitive locations."
On CBS’s “Face the Nation,” host Margaret Brennan pressed J.D. Vance on whether he supports conducting raids or other actions at church services or in schools.
Vance defended the policy. “Of course, if you have a person who is convicted of a violent crime, whether they're an illegal immigrant or a non-illegal immigrant, you have to go and get that person to protect the public safety,” he said.
Vance, who has been vocal about his Catholic faith, said he was “heartbroken” by the statement last week, but he also accused the conference of being more concerned about funding than helping immigrants in the U.S.
“I think that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops needs to actually look in the mirror a little bit and recognize that when they receive over $100 million to help resettle illegal immigrants, are they worried about humanitarian concerns? Or are they actually worried about their bottom line?" he said.
I guess any Christian group except Evangelicals (who, as we’ve learned over the last decade, aren’t actually Christians) are fair game.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:25 pm
by raydude
Vance, who has been vocal about his Catholic faith, said he was “heartbroken” by the statement last week, but he also accused the conference of being more concerned about funding than helping immigrants in the U.S.
“I think that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops needs to actually look in the mirror a little bit and recognize that when they receive over $100 million to help resettle illegal immigrants, are they worried about humanitarian concerns? Or are they actually worried about their bottom line?" he said.
Jesus, is he actually hinting that the Bishops are using funding as a profit making business?
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 12:02 am
by Max Peck
I had no idea that when immigrants are convicted of violent crimes, they are then turned loose to hang out in schools and churches, rather than being incarcerated like citizens who are convicted of violent crimes. Or does Vance simply not understand what "convicted criminals" means. I suppose that when your Dear Leader is in the business of pardoning people convicted of violent crimes it might be a little confusing.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:16 pm
by Smoove_B
Seeing quite a few locals posting on social media how happy they are over what's happening with all the "illegals" and seeing nothing wrong with the "papers-please" tactics that are currently happening. It's one thing to truly believe this is right, but to be so comfortable as to post those thoughts publicly online and to encourage others to call an ICE hotline to report anyone suspicious?
I guess what I'm saying is that I had no idea I was living among so many collaborators. JFC it's Monday.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:26 pm
by Max Peck
Wait until they found out that it's OK to scoop up "not-illegal" immigrants too, as Vance put it. See someone who looks uncomfortably brown, and maybe a little too ethnic? Call the ICE hotline and let their highly qualified Brute Squad sort it out for you!
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:33 pm
by Blackhawk
And with it comes a whole new form of 'swatting.'
Don't like your neighbor? Disagree with a streamer? Coworker got you down?
Archinerd wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:54 pm
ICE has started targeting schools in Chicago. They were refused entry to the building, this time. I can't even begin to describe how angry this makes me.
Update. Not ICE agents, Secret Service looking for an 11 year old who posted an anti-trump video.
Was it a threatening video or just a Trump smells like voodoo type of video?
Dunno. Either way It seems like it's hard to justify that type of response. Not a lot of info to go on at the moment
Well if it was a threatening one, I could understand it.
If it was a blah anti Trump one I'd ask what happened to him stopping the government from impacting free speeech.
It was a threat towards a "government offical" about the tiktok ban so it's unclear that it was against Trump (didn't he "save tik tok?").
This should be a lesson for CPS leadership and local media to be less credulous when a report conveniently matches their pollical narrative. The agents presented USSS credentials to the principal but the principal reported to leadership that they were ICE. No one at CPS or the media bothered to verify before claiming that ICE was raiding schools, spreading a lot of unnecessary panic among an already on-edge population.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:16 pm
by Smoove_B
The administration has to be turning this into a TV program, right?
A convicted criminal allegedly charged with sex crimes was spooked to see Dr. Phil after he was scooped during one of President Donald Trump’s turbo-charged ICE raids.
...
“You’ve never been deported before?” Dr. Phil asked the man, before a mumbled back and forth. “You’re Dr. Phil?!” the man later said in a moment of realization. “You look like Dr. Phil.”
“Yeah?!” Dr. Phil responded, adding: “How do you know me?” The man, who said he was born in Thailand but is not a U.S. citizen, then said: “I seen you on Dr. Phil.”
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:54 pm
by LawBeefaroni
Smoove_B wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:16 pm
The administration has to be turning this into a TV program, right?
A convicted criminal allegedly charged with sex crimes was spooked to see Dr. Phil after he was scooped during one of President Donald Trump’s turbo-charged ICE raids.
...
“You’ve never been deported before?” Dr. Phil asked the man, before a mumbled back and forth. “You’re Dr. Phil?!” the man later said in a moment of realization. “You look like Dr. Phil.”
“Yeah?!” Dr. Phil responded, adding: “How do you know me?” The man, who said he was born in Thailand but is not a U.S. citizen, then said: “I seen you on Dr. Phil.”
He was out there for photo ops with Tom Homan. Absolute propaganda. This administration is bringing out the who's who of "Shitbags that Inexplicably Have Unchecked Popularity."
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:00 pm
by Grifman
I see Mattel has come out with a new outfit for Barbie:
“Barbie joins ICE”
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:10 pm
by LawBeefaroni
LARPing. I'm sure it gets all the Grunt Style guys hard but man that is just pathetic gun gal shit. Shouldn't she be in Animal Control kit anyway?
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:23 pm
by IceBear
Who's that? I refuse to use X to see
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:26 pm
by Smoove_B
IceBear wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:23 pm
Who's that? I refuse to use X to see
The secretary for the Department of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, is in New York City on Tuesday to oversee ICE enforcement operations.
The former governor of South Dakota wrote on X, “We are doing this right – doing exactly what President @realDonaldTrump promised the American people – making our streets safe. Live this AM from NYC. I’m on it.”
Performative nonsense for the Fox News crowd.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:27 pm
by IceBear
That's who I assumed it was
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:47 pm
by Max Peck
"Animal Control" was the tell.
Ironically, she probably does see it as "animal" control.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:40 pm
by Isgrimnur
So, I went into the office today because I accidentally let my password expire, and the tech guys couldn't get me in over the phone.
After I got situated, I had a call scheduled with our data warehouse DBA, and it kind of woke me up. He's from Nigeria. My boss and one of my people are from Ghana. Our Data Analytics manager is from India. Any one of them or their family members could be easily swept up in the new quotas in being pulled over or just in the "wrong" place. So, as I met with other leaders about the organization, people who exceed my eleven years with the company, I started asking questions. What are we as an organization prepared to do if one of our people get arrested? We're smack dab in the middle of the largest metroplex in the state (sorry, Houston). We have 130k members, a good many of them that are at risk or have family members at risk in the new environment.
I've been spinning my wheels mentally for the last week, and trying not to mainline the misery and failing. My senators are shit, and my representative is Dinesh D'Souza's son-in-law.
But I have some good relationships at my company, including with the execs. I don't control anything, but I trust the people I work with to be good people. And if I can make sure that we can do what we can to take care of our employees and members, I will feel a little better about where I sit and what I can do.
Short version.
Florida mans wife grabbed in ICE raid.
He was citizen. She was not, but she was in the process and had a court date to finalize it.
He is upset and ask Trump for help.
Unverified things.
Wife had an ankle monitoring on because she was under house arrest.
Man voted for Trump.
If she was not a citizen under house arrest in Florida, I would think that Florida is one of the last places who wouldn't just deport her instead. I'm thinking this is false.
If the man did vote for Trump, then I have sympathy for her but 0% for him. Like nothing. No empathy of any kind.
If not true then I obviously do have sympathy for him.
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 2:23 am
by Victoria Raverna
Not really get deported but apparently have problem getting green card:
And it is the fault of Biden?
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:13 am
by Kraken
Punisher wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 2:14 am
Florida mans wife grabbed in ICE raid.
He was citizen. She was not, but she was in the process and had a court date to finalize it.
Doesn't marrying a citizen automatically make one a citizen?
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:21 am
by Victoria Raverna
Recent Supreme Court's ruling:
A U.S. citizen does not have a fundamental right to live in the United States with an alien spouse, nor a fundamental right in having his or her alien spouse granted a visa or other status.
Punisher wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 2:14 am
Florida mans wife grabbed in ICE raid.
He was citizen. She was not, but she was in the process and had a court date to finalize it.
Doesn't marrying a citizen automatically make one a citizen?
Apparently not. A couple of years ago a friend-of-a-friend in Indiana went through the whole process of applying for and gaining citizenship despite being married to an American.
Punisher wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 2:14 am
Florida mans wife grabbed in ICE raid.
He was citizen. She was not, but she was in the process and had a court date to finalize it.
Doesn't marrying a citizen automatically make one a citizen?
Apparently not. A couple of years ago a friend-of-a-friend in Indiana went through the whole process of applying for and gaining citizenship despite being married to an American.
I don't remember it ever being automatic. Green card or Visa or whatever were, but citizenship still had a waiting and application period of????
Re: Immigration Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:14 am
by Max Peck
Yeah, I know nothing of the process, I just remember my friend being very excited that their friend (and child) were able to become citizens. Hopefully the Magadministration can't undo it -- the wife and child involved were Mexican, so they'd have been in ICE's crosshairs once the sweeps started.
