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Unfortunately, despite corporations being people, Docu-Shred isn't eligible for a Chief of staff position.malchior wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:49 pmTrue - should have said good reason. Installing loyalists at the Pentagon just days after you lost the election has zero non-authoritarian overtones without exigent reasons (illness/death/etc.)
It is quite sad that "oh, Trump's just putting these people in place to destroy incriminating records" is the more comforting explanation.LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:54 pmUnfortunately, despite corporations being people, Docu-Shred isn't eligible for a Chief of staff position.malchior wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:49 pmTrue - should have said good reason. Installing loyalists at the Pentagon just days after you lost the election has zero non-authoritarian overtones without exigent reasons (illness/death/etc.)
Trump lost the election. He will lose in the courts. But what if he orders tanks to the inauguration on January 20. Who will stop him?Holman wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:07 pm One item of comfort is that Trump did worse with the military vote than any Republican in decades (and especially, if past polling indicates, among officers).
I doubt too many of those suckers and losers are itching to betray their oaths to keep his bone spurs in the White House.
It won't be a lawful order. But such a thing would probably cause enough chaos that what hostile power wouldn't want to lick their chops and take us on.Jaymann wrote:Trump lost the election. He will lose in the courts. But what if he orders tanks to the inauguration on January 20. Who will stop him?Holman wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:07 pm One item of comfort is that Trump did worse with the military vote than any Republican in decades (and especially, if past polling indicates, among officers).
I doubt too many of those suckers and losers are itching to betray their oaths to keep his bone spurs in the White House.
Members of the military aren't supposed to follow illegal orders, and they are culpable if they do so.Jaymann wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:12 pmTrump lost the election. He will lose in the courts. But what if he orders tanks to the inauguration on January 20. Who will stop him?Holman wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:07 pm One item of comfort is that Trump did worse with the military vote than any Republican in decades (and especially, if past polling indicates, among officers).
I doubt too many of those suckers and losers are itching to betray their oaths to keep his bone spurs in the White House.
That only works if things return to normal when the chaos is over.Holman wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:19 pmMembers of the military aren't supposed to follow illegal orders, and they are culpable if they do so.Jaymann wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:12 pmTrump lost the election. He will lose in the courts. But what if he orders tanks to the inauguration on January 20. Who will stop him?Holman wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:07 pm One item of comfort is that Trump did worse with the military vote than any Republican in decades (and especially, if past polling indicates, among officers).
I doubt too many of those suckers and losers are itching to betray their oaths to keep his bone spurs in the White House.
If gives the Pentagon (which by and large does not like Trump) cover to refuse his orders to deploy the military in the first place.Archinerd wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:21 pm That only works if things return to normal when the chaos is over.
But the Pentagon does not speak with a single voice. If the Joint Chiefs support the unlawful order, just how far down the chain before there is resistance:
The tv version might go that way.Jaymann wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:30 pmBut the Pentagon does not speak with a single voice. If the Joint Chiefs support the unlawful order, just how far down the chain before there is resistance:
Colonel to his general: Sir, with all due respect that is an unlawful order and I cannot comply, sir.
General: Arrest that man for treason!
Those are all reasons why Trump's efforts may not yield what he wants, but that doesn't mean that Trump isn't planning to *try* something where he thinks military support will be important.Holman wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:00 pm This is a fantasy scenario, really. Even bringing a (say) brigade-sized unit into action would require *scores* of officers to cooperate (and then all of their enlisted soldiers to obey), and then you'd need the entire rest of the military to countenance it in a grand coordinated manner. The U.S. military is a fairly conservative organization, but I don't think they're primed for a coup.
I'm actually confident that illegal orders from Trump loyalists in the DoD would hit a wall with the first actual general.
Trump is flailing, perhaps trying to convince himself of a fantasy of holding on to power, but the rest of the party is just trying to figure out how to game the situation in a way that will hold the senate in Georgia.
Jesus, this is just sad.Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick is offering $1 million in rewards to people who can help uncover voter fraud in the presidential election.
Patrick on Tuesday said in a press release to the media that any person who comes forward with evidence that leads to an arrest and final conviction of voter fraud will be paid a minimum of $25,000. The money would ostensibly come from Patrick’s campaign funds, but his spokesman would not comment.
Sad, but in a Bizzarro World way it may actually be helpful as proof of no voter fraud. Certainly a parade of goofballs will come forward with wild claims, but there will be no arrests or convictions. Can't wait until the hotline gets a deluge of tic toc calls.Skinypupy wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:16 pm The TX Lt Gov is now paying up to $1MM for people to find voter fraud evidence for them.
Jesus, this is just sad.Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick is offering $1 million in rewards to people who can help uncover voter fraud in the presidential election.
Patrick on Tuesday said in a press release to the media that any person who comes forward with evidence that leads to an arrest and final conviction of voter fraud will be paid a minimum of $25,000. The money would ostensibly come from Patrick’s campaign funds, but his spokesman would not comment.
We all assume that he's going to attack the US, but I read somewhere that trump may be setting up a surprise attack on Iran as his parting gift to the nation. Seems like we'd be seeing troop movements, unless it's a missile/air attack. Is that more farfetched than the coup scenarios?
I would love to see someone go to jail over this.Postal worker featured by Republicans as evidence of vote tampering admits he made it up; GOP donors gave him $130,000
That's only $1 per COVID case in the state. Sad.Smoove_B wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:28 pm Pretty soon people are going to be talking about TX for reasons other than a $1 million bounty on voter fraud, trust me.
Ten fingers, a tie, and two shoes times $10,000.
The $130K was what he crowdfunded from the moron brigade by doing a "HELP, HELP I'M BEING OPPRESSED BY LIBERALS" GoFundMe drive.
Trump won Texas...fraud there would be amusing.Skinypupy wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:16 pm The TX Lt Gov is now paying up to $1MM for people to find voter fraud evidence for them.
Jesus, this is just sad.Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick is offering $1 million in rewards to people who can help uncover voter fraud in the presidential election.
Patrick on Tuesday said in a press release to the media that any person who comes forward with evidence that leads to an arrest and final conviction of voter fraud will be paid a minimum of $25,000. The money would ostensibly come from Patrick’s campaign funds, but his spokesman would not comment.
There's another factor involved here, setting up his next life. This of course means getting a solid cohort for TrumpTV but it also might mean moving to an extradition-free country like UAE (who we just sold serious military tech to for their approval of an embassy in Jerusalem and said tech that likely will now become Russian tech via friendly transfer/sale from the UAE). These firings also put in place a better chance of destroying evidence of their dirty deeds. It's brazen and scary as hell thinking about all the things they will break on the way out if we get there.El Guapo wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:09 pmThose are all reasons why Trump's efforts may not yield what he wants, but that doesn't mean that Trump isn't planning to *try* something where he thinks military support will be important.Holman wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:00 pm This is a fantasy scenario, really. Even bringing a (say) brigade-sized unit into action would require *scores* of officers to cooperate (and then all of their enlisted soldiers to obey), and then you'd need the entire rest of the military to countenance it in a grand coordinated manner. The U.S. military is a fairly conservative organization, but I don't think they're primed for a coup.
I'm actually confident that illegal orders from Trump loyalists in the DoD would hit a wall with the first actual general.
Trump is flailing, perhaps trying to convince himself of a fantasy of holding on to power, but the rest of the party is just trying to figure out how to game the situation in a way that will hold the senate in Georgia.
Did the federal agents consent to being recorded heh? Pennsylvania is a two-party consent state...malchior wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:35 pm USPS guy released a video saying he didn't recant and he'll be releasing audio of him being coerced...to not recant I guess...tomorrow. He got the message out via James O'Keefe for extra reliability in the message.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 9048355840
That's not what I said though. I said, "another factor" not the factor. Also, I hinted at it being more with my military hardware sale comment. Even without successfully stealing the election they can still inflict mortal wounds in spades. Every American enemy is licking their chops right now.Octavious wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:48 pm I'd be happy if all they are doing is covering their tracks. I really don't think that's the case.
As noted, PA is a state that requires two-party consent to recording, so good luck with that.malchior wrote:USPS guy released a video saying he didn't recant and he'll be releasing audio of him being coerced...to not recant I guess...tomorrow. He got the message out via James O'Keefe for extra reliability in the message.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 9048355840
Good question also this -Enough wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:05 pmDid the federal agents consent to being recorded heh? Pennsylvania is a two-party consent state...malchior wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:35 pm USPS guy released a video saying he didn't recant and he'll be releasing audio of him being coerced...to not recant I guess...tomorrow. He got the message out via James O'Keefe for extra reliability in the message.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 9048355840
James O'Keefe is the Sideshow Bob of Jacob Wohls.malchior wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:35 pm USPS guy released a video saying he didn't recant and he'll be releasing audio of him being coerced...to not recant I guess...tomorrow. He got the message out via James O'Keefe for extra reliability in the message.
Love it and this one slayed me:malchior wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:28 pmGood question also this -Enough wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:05 pmDid the federal agents consent to being recorded heh? Pennsylvania is a two-party consent state...malchior wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:35 pm USPS guy released a video saying he didn't recant and he'll be releasing audio of him being coerced...to not recant I guess...tomorrow. He got the message out via James O'Keefe for extra reliability in the message.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 9048355840
https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1326331199153795074
