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Kraken wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:16 pm Haven't decided yet if I'm going to sit through it or not. Leaning toward no. I don't need the aggravation.

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:31 pm Also apparently accidentally reported myself.

Kraken wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:16 pm Haven't decided yet if I'm going to sit through it or not. Leaning toward no. I don't need the aggravation.

Enough wrote:Headed out for the lunar eclipse at 4 am, probably will skip his buffoonery and read about it later.

Zaxxon wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:52 pm

Enough wrote:Headed out for the lunar eclipse at 4 am, probably will skip his buffoonery and read about it later.

Wise. I'm planning to get my girls up to see the umbra take over. Which could be complicated by my plan to play a SotU drinking game. Anyone have a good set of rules? My current plan is to wait for DJT to come on, then down any bottles I can find.

@JohnDingell wrote:The State of our Union is fine. It’s these Confederate-minded bastards I’m worried about.

Chaz wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:16 pm Wait, are you a television celebrity? ARE YOU ONE OF THE FOX AND FRIENDS PEOPLE?!

msteelers wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:18 pm

Chaz wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:16 pm Wait, are you a television celebrity? ARE YOU ONE OF THE FOX AND FRIENDS PEOPLE?!

That's disturbingly close. We are a Fox News affiliate and Brian Kilmeade may or may not be on right after me. I work on the dark side, and it's driving me insane.

Chaz wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:26 pmCan you bring it down from the inside?

msteelers wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:40 pm

Chaz wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:26 pmCan you bring it down from the inside?

I'm trying.

msteelers wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:40 pm

Chaz wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:26 pmCan you bring it down from the inside?

I'm trying.

Chaz wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:35 pm I don't know how you manage to talk for almost an hour and a half without actually saying anything.

Also, the GOP caucus started a "USA! USA!" chant at the end there. That was super classy.

El Guapo wrote:

msteelers wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:40 pm

Chaz wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:26 pmCan you bring it down from the inside?

I'm trying.

Just aim to be the Shep Smith of your affiliate.

Defiant wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:08 am I didn't watch the State of the Union. Should I read an English Transcript, or should I read it in the original Russian? (or is that German?)

YellowKing wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:22 pm
And yes, I'm dying inside anticipating the media's fawning coverage of how Trump managed to sound, for an hour, like an actual human being by reading carefully written words from a teleprompter.

Holman wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:52 amAt best (for him), it's being acknowledged that Trump has perhaps learned the difference between this kind of speech and his usual campaign hate rally.

Chaz wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:55 am He basically said nothing, put forward no new policy, revisited the xenophobia and nationalism he was obviously going to, narrowly avoided saying we were going to attack North Korea, and took an hour and twenty minutes to deliver what should have been a 50 minute speech. The GOP falling all over themselves to give him standing ovations constantly probably didn't help.

NickAragua wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:52 am I didn't watch it, but looking at the news sites, he didn't declare martial law and start rounding people up for death camps, so, the day's off to a pretty good start.

Article wrote:How do you boast about victories you haven’t had? How do you present new proposals when many of the old ones are still on the table? And how do you handle the Russia story that seems to consume most of politics each week?

The answer from Trump was simply to conjure his own reality, outlining a set of some accomplishments, delivering the standard list of policy proposals, and ignoring the Russia probe altogether. The speech was long, and there was little in the way of thematic unity, though he spoke of a “new American moment”— a concept borrowed from Hillary Clinton, of all people.

This president is not often good at hiding his emotions, but he did so Tuesday. As a result, not only was the picture he painted of America removed from reality, but Trump himself was also practically unrecognizable. The speech somehow managed to render Trump the one thing he almost never is: boring.

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Only the “USA” chant that went up in the chamber as he finished marked it as a distinctively Trumpian occasion.

When discussing anything from inauguration crowds to unemployment figures, President Trump loves to measure his presidency against that of his predecessor, Barack Obama. And comparing their first State of the Union addresses, Trump’s was shorter in words (5,190 to Obama’s 7,059) but took far longer deliver — Trump’s speech ran for 80 minutes; Obama’s 2010 speech clocked in at 66 minutes. Each included plenty of crafted applause lines: Obama paused 86 times for applause; Trump did so roughly 115 times.

Chaz wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:55 amThe GOP falling all over themselves to give him standing ovations constantly probably didn't help.

msteelers wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:55 am

Chaz wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:55 amThe GOP falling all over themselves to give him standing ovations constantly probably didn't help.

I heard there were 111 pauses for applause in the 80 minute speech.

I wouldn't put much stock in the number, except I heard it on Fox News.

Jeff V wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:06 am

NickAragua wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:52 am I didn't watch it, but looking at the news sites, he didn't declare martial law and start rounding people up for death camps, so, the day's off to a pretty good start.

But, of course, the day is not over yet. The only thing of consequence that they mentioned this morning on the news was his travesty of an immigration plan, which would affect my family (and those of friends) greatly.