The Former Trump Presidency Thread

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:40 pm

Also the DOW plunged 666 points on the day Trump released the Nunes memo. If that isn't a sign of the Antichrist end times I don't know what is.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:05 am

A Manhattan federal judge on Friday threw out of court a lawsuit that claimed Trump had no legal authority to appoint an interim head of a Wall Street watchdog.

The Lower East Side People’s Credit Union had asked the court to block the White House’s move to install Mick Mulvaney as the interim boss of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which monitors credit cards, loans, and other consumer financial products, because it violated the agency’s rules.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/02/judge-tos ... fpb-chief/

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:24 pm

Trump golf tracker

Last updated: Jan. 19, 2018
PolitiFact is tracking the number of times Donald Trump has played golf, compared to Barack Obama at the same point of his presidency. We're tracking all instances that news reporters were able to confirm, through spokespeople or photographic evidence, that Trump or Obama played golf.

OBAMA: 29 ROUNDS
TRUMP: 44 ROUNDS

milo · Post by **milo** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:48 pm

Well, he did say that we'd be tired of all the winning. It's not his fault we didn't ask if he meant "winning at golf".

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:51 am

Lawfareblog FOIA'd FBI communications about the firing of Comey. They had a hypothesis that the WH lied about the FBI's confidence in his leadership.They shared what was provided to them. There aren't any bombshells in these releases but the tone was consistent that this was unexpected.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:33 pm

When is Trump scheduled to tweet and take credit for the past week's incredible stock market performance?

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:40 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:33 pm When is Trump scheduled to tweet and take credit for the past week's incredible stock market performance?

Blame it Little Schiff and Pochahontas for holding back government and regulating banking. They're holdouts from the Obama's legacy.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:41 pm

Not to mention with dollar being down, as properly planned foreign Investors can buy more than ever!

Let's pretend you had a rubles to dollars debt and an opportunity to buy back some of your holdings from one of your many bankruptcies. You'd be in great shape.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:54 pm

I can't wait to see what group or person the dumbass orange loser tries to blame for the drop in the stock market. I don't believe he's ever once, in his entire life, taken responsibility for anything negative; but he sure does love taking the credit for everything else.

In other news, he's calling democrats treasonous for not applauding his SOTUS last week. Of course, he fails to remember GOP reactions to Obama's speeches. But hey, America didn't elect him for his brains. They elected him because most are equally stupid and easily convinced of whatever celebrities tell them.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:02 pm

DOW dropped a full 1000 today. Whens the free fall end?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ ... story.html

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:12 pm

I blame Paul Ryan. The market figured out that increased inflation is going to eliminate more than $1.50 from your paycheck every week.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:31 pm

The WH has already sprung to action saying that the drop off is tied to increased wage pressure caused by the tax cut. Yeah yeah...spin away lying sacks of shit. The President spent all his time saying the markets were his report card. But he will take credit and never take blame because he is a terrible human being and we should just expect that.

Back in reality land - I very much never bought into that positive or negative being on him. Especially now. The market will price in announced policy changes naturally but this bull market was secular and economic data driven mostly. The market overbought and the labor market got very tight. Standard IS-LM models predict inflation in this environment. The Fed being generally a data driven organization signaled they'll raise rates based on that forecast. The market is selling off in face of that reality. This all tracks as normal at the moment. The market needed an excuse to sell off and it found it. At least this is what it looks like right now.

Edit: My one strategy recommendation that screams out of all this would be they fix immigration so we can provide labor where there are shortages in the economy. It'll lag a bit and be a tough target to hit exactly but it is better than the system we have now which is absolutely ludicrous. I've known a decent amount of highly qualified people that our stupid system chased out of the country. If only we had leadership that actually fixed problems instead of slapped each other around for sport.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:40 pm

malchior wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:31 pm
Back in reality land - I very much never bought into that positive or negative being on him. Especially now. The market will price in announced policy changes naturally but this bull market was secular and economic data driven mostly.

Completely agree, but as you said, Trump has been crowing about it as if he was responsible when it was in the black. So it seems only fair that we should hold his feet to the fire over it now that it's not.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:44 pm

IS-LM models predict inflation in this environment.

We do?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:45 pm

hepcat wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:54 pm In other news, he's calling democrats treasonous for not applauding his SOTUS last week.

That's the speech that was praised for his high-minded bipartisan appeal, right?

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:46 pm

LordMortis wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:44 pm
IS-LM models predict inflation in this environment.
We do?

And you're models!

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:52 pm

I'm the one in green

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:08 pm

Edit: Faked. I could believe it though.

https://twitter.com/ShaunUsher/status/9 ... 5318219776

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:43 pm

Trump casually called Democrats 'treasonous' for not applauding his SOTU.

No big deal.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:46 pm

This market correction has the stank of liberal, crooked Hillary all over it! Where is she?!?

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:47 pm

Good grief.

Also, that clip helps confirm suspicions I had that he really was only talking to one side of the room.

NickAragua · Post by **NickAragua** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:48 pm

El Guapo wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:43 pm Trump casually called Democrats 'treasonous' for not applauding his SOTU.

No big deal.

This is where his unwillingness to pick up a history book (no, scratch that, a book. No, wait, a two-page memo.) will really come back to bite him in the ass. If he'd read a bit about his role model's homeland, he'd have had all those guys shot already. I bet Joseph Stalin wouldn't even have bothered to tweet about it. WEAK!

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:05 pm

Says the Big Orange Baby who questioned his predecessor's birth certificate.

The lack of self-awareness is hopelessly tragic. If not clapping during the SOTU is treason, then Trump's actual conduct becomes super-treason??? Or is he still relying on "It's not illegal if the President does it (and is Republican)"?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:15 pm

A congresswoman yelling "You lie!" would have been worth it just for the tweetstorm.

raydude · Post by **raydude** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:34 pm

Holman wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:15 pm A congresswoman yelling "You lie!" would have been worth it just for the tweetstorm.

I'd rather no one does this. Then we can point to the fact that this only happened to the African American President and ask "Why did that happen?"

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:54 pm

If he wasn't such a loathsome monster, you'd almost have to admire the brass balls it takes to call people that don't clap "treasonous" while under investigation for colluding with one of our country's biggest enemies.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:33 am

The market's down because Bernie is making noise like he plans to run again. Duh!

lol

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:47 am

YellowKing wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:54 pm If he wasn't such a loathsome monster, you'd almost have to admire the brass balls it takes to call people that don't clap "treasonous" while under investigation for colluding with one of our country's biggest enemies.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:40 am

Waiting for bragging about size where he doesn't have to lie about things happening that he does not control. Even after record highs, he manages another biggest. The biggest market drop in history. The best at everything! Biggest single day decline. Biggest two day decline. He's setting a trend!

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:10 pm

Trump was speaking ‘tongue in cheek’ when he said Democrats were ‘treasonous,’ spokesman says

Not his fault that you weren't able to read his mind and tell that it was tongue in cheek.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:20 pm

Tongue in [Putin's ass]cheek maybe.

It you watch, it's a "I'm not saying, I'm just saying" type thing and he does get a nodding reaction out of the crowd. Such a squirmy, weasely manchild.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:21 pm

Defiant wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:10 pm Trump was speaking ‘tongue in cheek’ when he said Democrats were ‘treasonous,’ spokesman says

Not his fault that you weren't able to read his mind and tell that it was tongue in cheek.

Or that it is inappropriate no matter what. That is the problem with the guy in a nutshell. His words matter. They can get people killed. He still doesn't get it. Fucking moron.

milo · Post by **milo** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:37 pm

Well, I think he is intentionally trying to devalue the word—and concept of—treason.

Enemy say bad thing about Trump!
Trump deny doing bad thing!
Trump show them!
Trump use bad word about enemy doing something else!

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:48 pm

Didn't his lapdog just say that his first rule is that people accuse of what they're doing or some such thing?

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:02 pm

Even during the election, people figured out that if Trump accused someone of doing something, he was 100% guilty of it himself.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:02 pm

Hannity was blaming the market on Obama.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:55 pm

And last week Hannity was Trumpeting the stock market as a sign of Trump's economic policy. Puppet!

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:24 pm

Tons of shit is breaking in Washington. What's the Trump fix? A military parade. Not authoritarian at all.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:34 pm

malchior wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:24 pm Tons of shit is breaking in Washington. What's the Trump fix? A military parade. Not authoritarian at all.

I really hope Mattis talks him out of this. This is not the traditional role of the U.S. military.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:35 pm

Edit: Dammit, I thought I was breaking this story. Even so here are some quotes.

The headline kind of speaks for itself (From the WaPo)

Trump’s ‘marching orders’ to the Pentagon: Plan a grand military parade

President Trump’s vision of soldiers marching and tanks rolling down the boulevards of Washington is moving closer to reality in the Pentagon and White House, where officials say they have begun to plan a grand military parade later this year showcasing the might of America’s armed forces.

Trump has long mused publicly and privately about wanting such a parade, but a Jan. 18 meeting between Trump and top generals in the Pentagon’s tank — a room reserved for top-secret discussions — marked a tipping point, according to two officials briefed on the planning.

Surrounded by the military’s highest-ranking officials, including Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., Trump’s seemingly abstract desire for a parade was suddenly heard as a presidential directive, the officials said.

“The marching orders were: I want a parade like the one in France,” said a military official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the planning discussions are supposed to remain confidential. “This is being worked at the highest levels of the military.”

Shows of military strength are not typical in the United States — and they don’t come cheap. The cost of shipping Abrams tanks and high-tech hardware to Washington could run in the millions, and military officials said it was unclear how they would pay for it.

A White House official familiar with the planning described the discussions as “brainstorming” and said nothing was settled. “Right now, there’s really no meat on the bones,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal discussions.

After The Washington Post first published this story, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders issued a statement confirming that plans are underway.

“President Trump is incredibly supportive of America’s great service members who risk their lives every day to keep our country safe,” Sanders said. “He has asked the Department of Defense to explore a celebration at which all Americans can show their appreciation.”

I was trying to come up with some witty banter and mockery but I am just left with a sense of disgust for this man who feels the need to stroke his oversized ego with no expense spared. He's a fascist only constrained by the inconvenience of our nation's laws and Constitution. We aren't France, this is not the end of a major conflict and as it says in the article:

With a few exceptions — such as President George H.W. Bush’s 1991 parade down Constitution Avenue celebrating victory in the Persian Gulf War — presidents have avoided displays of military hardware that are more associated in the American mind with the Soviet Union’s Red Square celebrations or, more recently, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un’s efforts to show off his Taepodong missiles.

“I don’t think there’s a lack of love and respect for our armed forces in the United States,” said Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian at Rice University. “What are they going to do, stand there while Donald Trump waves at them? It smacks of something you see in a totalitarian country — unless there’s a genuine, earnest reason to be doing it.”

Weaponry on the streets of Washington is not unheard of. Presidents Harry S. Truman and John F. Kennedy had military equipment during their inaugural parades, in 1949 and 1961 respectively, during key junctures in the Cold War, said Michael Beschloss, another presidential historian.

“Set against the backdrop of American history, it does seem to hark back to the harsh days of the Cold War,” Beschloss said. “Those parades were a counterpoint to the parades in front of Lenin’s tomb at Red Square . . . One reason the Soviets had those parades was to distract the world from the fact that the Soviet military was actually much weaker than the Soviets were claiming.”

But generally, the United States has shied away from parading its military assets, calculating that doing so was not necessary for the world’s preeminent superpower.

He demeans the office of the presidency and shame on all those who support or excuse this sad example of a president. The military is nothing but a toy to him as he wraps himself in its honored traditions and history, using the flag to cover his inadequacies.