Baldur's Gate 3

If it's a video game it goes here.

Moderators: LawBeefaroni, Arcanis, $iljanus

Post Reply
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28080
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Unagi »

Jaymann wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:04 pm I'm right there with you. I am currently running a three Duergar team of Moe, Larry and Curly plus Lae'zel (clocking in with a mighty INT of 10).
How does one create a party filled with player made members?

Is that a multiplayer ‘trick’?
User avatar
El Guapo
Posts: 41939
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:01 pm
Location: Boston

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by El Guapo »

Unagi wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:34 am
Jaymann wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:04 pm I'm right there with you. I am currently running a three Duergar team of Moe, Larry and Curly plus Lae'zel (clocking in with a mighty INT of 10).
How does one create a party filled with player made members?

Is that a multiplayer ‘trick’?
Once you have Withers in your camp you can talk to him and hire NPCs, which you then create.
Black Lives Matter.
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28080
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Unagi »

El Guapo wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:06 pm
Unagi wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:34 am
Jaymann wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:04 pm I'm right there with you. I am currently running a three Duergar team of Moe, Larry and Curly plus Lae'zel (clocking in with a mighty INT of 10).
How does one create a party filled with player made members?

Is that a multiplayer ‘trick’?
Once you have Withers in your camp you can talk to him and hire NPCs, which you then create.
Ohhhh! lol - I'm an idiot!

I assumed those were some strange old-school DnD 'Hierlings' thing or something like that and I never even put much more thought into it.... Like they would be with your party until a long-rest or something.

Of course. I wish I could bold this: :doh:
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

Unagi wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:34 am
Jaymann wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:04 pm I'm right there with you. I am currently running a three Duergar team of Moe, Larry and Curly plus Lae'zel (clocking in with a mighty INT of 10).
How does one create a party filled with player made members?

Is that a multiplayer ‘trick’?
There is a trick, but it requires two copies of the game, which is fine because I play multiplayer with my son. In order to have two "avatars" I start a multiplayer game on my Steam account. Then I go on a separate computer, start playing on my son's Steam account, and join the multiplayer session. Exit the game on his account and I am left in control of both avatars. In this way I was able to create a two Duergar party and hire a third one.
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
User avatar
El Guapo
Posts: 41939
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:01 pm
Location: Boston

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by El Guapo »

Jaymann wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:16 pm
Unagi wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:34 am
Jaymann wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:04 pm I'm right there with you. I am currently running a three Duergar team of Moe, Larry and Curly plus Lae'zel (clocking in with a mighty INT of 10).
How does one create a party filled with player made members?

Is that a multiplayer ‘trick’?
There is a trick, but it requires two copies of the game, which is fine because I play multiplayer with my son. In order to have two "avatars" I start a multiplayer game on my Steam account. Then I go on a separate computer, start playing on my son's Steam account, and join the multiplayer session. Exit the game on his account and I am left in control of both avatars. In this way I was able to create a two Duergar party and hire a third one.
Are you otherwise limited in how many Duergar you can have in your party?
Black Lives Matter.
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28080
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Unagi »

Jaymann wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:16 pm There is a trick, but it requires two copies of the game, which is fine because I play multiplayer with my son. In order to have two "avatars" I start a multiplayer game on my Steam account. Then I go on a separate computer, start playing on my son's Steam account, and join the multiplayer session. Exit the game on his account and I am left in control of both avatars. In this way I was able to create a two Duergar party and hire a third one.
Aha, see - I knew there was something sneaky going on here.

Basically, you are in a Multiplayer game with your son, but he is not ever going to rejoin that game and you can control the development of that character.

So what are the limits on the Withers NPCs that keep you from doing it through him? Does he only allow 1 NPC to be hired?
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

El Guapo wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:20 pm
Jaymann wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:16 pm
Unagi wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:34 am
Jaymann wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:04 pm I'm right there with you. I am currently running a three Duergar team of Moe, Larry and Curly plus Lae'zel (clocking in with a mighty INT of 10).
How does one create a party filled with player made members?

Is that a multiplayer ‘trick’?
There is a trick, but it requires two copies of the game, which is fine because I play multiplayer with my son. In order to have two "avatars" I start a multiplayer game on my Steam account. Then I go on a separate computer, start playing on my son's Steam account, and join the multiplayer session. Exit the game on his account and I am left in control of both avatars. In this way I was able to create a two Duergar party and hire a third one.
Are you otherwise limited in how many Duergar you can have in your party?
Yeah, your avatar plus one hire.
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

Unagi wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:21 pm
Jaymann wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:16 pm There is a trick, but it requires two copies of the game, which is fine because I play multiplayer with my son. In order to have two "avatars" I start a multiplayer game on my Steam account. Then I go on a separate computer, start playing on my son's Steam account, and join the multiplayer session. Exit the game on his account and I am left in control of both avatars. In this way I was able to create a two Duergar party and hire a third one.
Aha, see - I knew there was something sneaky going on here.

Basically, you are in a Multiplayer game with your son, but he is not ever going to rejoin that game and you can control the development of that character.

So what are the limits on the Withers NPCs that keep you from doing it through him? Does he only allow 1 NPC to be hired?
No you can hire 3 if you want. But you can't change their race.
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
User avatar
Scraper
Posts: 2943
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:59 pm

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Scraper »

Jaymann wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:41 pm
Scraper wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:21 pm Was anyone else disappointed when they realized the level cap is 12 and they still had a ton of stuff left to do in act 3?
Yes. But I have dealt with it by only doing those quests/areas that give tangible rewards. Ain't nobody got time to wipe out the territory for no xp.
Spoiler for late game stuff
Spoiler:
I'm near the end but I still haven't taken down Gortash or disabled his robot factory and I bet I could have easily hit level 14 by now. I went through the entire House of Hope, killed everyone except Hope and I didn't get an ounce of XP for it, my biggest reward is the Armor that Raphael wears. I've killed the Vampire lord, rescued Minsc, killed Raphael, killed Orin, I even killed the one guy who was Bhaal's judge, I'm on a righteous rampage.
So yeah I wish the level cap was 15 or so.
FTE
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28080
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Unagi »

Jaymann wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:48 pm No you can hire 3 if you want. But you can't change their race.
I appreciate your reply, but I'm still confused I think.

So: you can only hire 1 single Duergar NPC. But you could also hire up to 3 NPCs if you want, but not change their race.

Is the limit to Duergar NPCs a limit only to that race, or can you also not hire 3 Drow?
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

Unagi wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:09 pm
Jaymann wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:48 pm No you can hire 3 if you want. But you can't change their race.
I appreciate your reply, but I'm still confused I think.

So: you can only hire 1 single Duergar NPC. But you could also hire up to 3 NPCs if you want, but not change their race.

Is the limit to Duergar NPCs a limit only to that race, or can you also not hire 3 Drow?
The only limitation on the hirelings is race. I mention Duergar (there is one hireling of that persuasion) because I wanted 3 of them and the only way to do that was use the avatar trick.
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28080
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Unagi »

Oh, OK I think I get it now. (And again, thanks - I realize I could probably educate myself merely by dropping some party members and engaging Withers).

Is this right: When you go to select your NPC from Withers, you don't just get to "make a new character" - you get to pick from a limited group of NPCs (perhaps race+background? predefined) that you then can Withers into whatever class you want.
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28080
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Unagi »

Side note: the Druergar are a rather nice race with their Enlarge and Invisible abilities.

That free Invisibility at each Battle (or always, when roaming) is just so hard to not make part of a min/max build. I imagine pickpocketing is a joke.


I hear that Deep Gnomes are also interesting to build upon.
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

Unagi wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:20 pm Side note: the Druergar are a rather nice race with their Enlarge and Invisible abilities.

That free Invisibility at each Battle (or always, when roaming) is just so hard to not make part of a min/max build. I imagine pickpocketing is a joke.
Exactly. Can you imagine roaming the earth with 3 of them. I did and I do.
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
User avatar
Lassr
Posts: 16957
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:51 am
Location: Rocket City (AL)
Contact:

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Lassr »

Had to add this here, I was searching Baldur's gate 3 videos on Youtube... :lol:

The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

Black Lives Matter
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

:lol: :clap:
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
User avatar
Carpet_pissr
Posts: 20781
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:32 pm
Location: Columbia, SC

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Carpet_pissr »

Before I even saw it, I was thinking "if they didn't take advantage of his naked couch scene in this clip, they have made a grave mistake".
User avatar
Scraper
Posts: 2943
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:59 pm

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Scraper »

That was incredible!
FTE
User avatar
Punisher
Posts: 4651
Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:05 pm

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Punisher »

Scraper wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:01 pm
Jaymann wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:41 pm
Scraper wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:21 pm Was anyone else disappointed when they realized the level cap is 12 and they still had a ton of stuff left to do in act 3?
Yes. But I have dealt with it by only doing those quests/areas that give tangible rewards. Ain't nobody got time to wipe out the territory for no xp.
Spoiler for late game stuff
Spoiler:
I'm near the end but I still haven't taken down Gortash or disabled his robot factory and I bet I could have easily hit level 14 by now. I went through the entire House of Hope, killed everyone except Hope and I didn't get an ounce of XP for it, my biggest reward is the Armor that Raphael wears. I've killed the Vampire lord, rescued Minsc, killed Raphael, killed Orin, I even killed the one guy who was Bhaal's judge, I'm on a righteous rampage.
So yeah I wish the level cap was 15 or so.
Fyi.
I think that there are mods to go up to L20 as well as multiclass each one up to L20.
There are also mods to add higher level spells too.
I have some installed but haven't actually started my game yet to test.
All yourLightning Bolts are Belong to Us
User avatar
Skinypupy
Posts: 20985
Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:12 am
Location: Utah

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Skinypupy »

I think I may have been too hasty in my initial assessment of the console version. I tried the PS5 version immediately after finishing on PC and found it to feel very clunky in comparison. After a few months break, I fired it up again last weekend. Not sure if there have been patched improvements, but it feels significantly better this time around. The radial menus are slick and easy to use, precise movement is very easy, the camera feels less fiddly, and I think I actually prefer “driving” the group instead of constantly clicking to move. Picking things up can still occasionally be clunky, but overall I’m finding it to be a fantastic experience. To the point where I think it may actually be my preferred version…which is NOT something I thought I’d be saying.

I also think that I can officially say that BG3 is firmly in the running for my personal “Best Game Ever”. Even though my second playthrough is mostly the same choices (I can never play anything but a goody-two-shoes), I’m stumbling across all sorts of new areas and interactions that I missed the first time through. These have added even more to an already fleshed out world, and I continue to be amazed at Larian’s depth of storytelling and world building. It’s quite astounding, to be honest. Playing as a different party gives the game a much different feel as well. Last time I was an elven ranger, and mostly used Laezel (fighter), Shadowheart (life Cleric), and Gale (evo wiz). This time I’m a half-orc fighter, using Karlach (Barb), Wyll (Warlock) and Astarion (Thief). Even though I know what’s coming in the battles, this new party makes them feel fresh and unique.

This is truly a masterpiece of a game that will do down as an all-time classic.
When darkness veils the world, four Warriors of Light shall come.
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28080
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Unagi »

Me:

Select 1st character, click >large attack option< and then when I look at the battlefield, I think - wait, I want to first attack with this other character... So I select that 2nd character - and the 1st character follows through with my >large attack< upon my 2nd character. :doh:

I'm sure we've all done it once. But have we all done it over a dozen times!

:)
User avatar
Scraper
Posts: 2943
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:59 pm

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Scraper »

At 80+ hours in I'm finally about to approach what I assume is the final boss. My main has been an Oath keeper Paladin throughout and I've really enjoyed that class. I primarily use Shadowheart, Gale and Lae zel (However you spell it). So I have a tank, a mage, a cleric for healing, and a DPS machine with Laezel. It's been a great combo for most fights. I've completed every major side quest
Spoiler:
including ansur, which in my mind should be a main quest given the huge revelation it gives.
I'm ready to see how all of my decisions play out in the end. I'm hoping for the good/happy ending, but we'll see.
FTE
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28080
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Unagi »

I am playing very slow (game is almost always on, but I only sit down and play for like 20-30 minutes jaunts)
Only level 7, still act 1 (I probably should just move on to act 2, and revisit act 1 stuff I miss on another playthrough, but the completionist inside me is winning)

My team:

Myself(female drow): Straight Druid/Moon - I plan to multiclass after level 10 into perhaps Wizard or sorcerer or some other 2 levels

Karlach: Barbarian(Berzerker) Lvl 5/ Rouge 2 (plan is to get to Rouge 4(thief/fast hands & feat), then 3 levels of fighter to take EK for other thrown weapons to bond)
She has a Throwing focus. Bought an auto-return Pike from a goblin early on and have just been cleaning up with her.

Shadowheart: She is currently a Cleric(Tempest) 6/Wizard1 (to yoink a few scrolls into the team play-list) Plan here is to take her to Cleric 8, then take 3 levels in Sorcerer probably(possibly just stick with Cleric or maybe incread Wizard).
May respec into a Light Cleric.

Wyll: Currently a Lvl5 Warlock(fiend) and Lvl 2 Bard. Plan to go to Bard 7


I took Lae'zel in the group for the creche' part, but I've since swapped her back out for Shadowheart.
User avatar
Skinypupy
Posts: 20985
Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:12 am
Location: Utah

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Skinypupy »

So, a possible problem. :?

I went up against the Surgeon dude in Act 2. One of his minions cast "Confuse" on my Tav. On his temporarily hostile action, Tav jumped up next to Astarion and hit him with a potion of Gaseous Form (very random). Now the battle is over and Tav is out of confused status (so he's no longer hostile), but Astarion is still in gaseous form from the potion. Since it wasn't cast as a spell, there's no Concentration check from a specific caster to break it. I tried a short rest, but he's still gaseous. Is that a status that wears off after a while, or did I maybe hit a bug?

I didn't really want to save in case I needed to revert and didn't want to lose a big chunk of progress, including that battle.
When darkness veils the world, four Warriors of Light shall come.
User avatar
Max Peck
Posts: 14709
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:09 pm
Location: Down the Rabbit-Hole

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Max Peck »

I had something vaguely similar happen with Shadowheart. Her fear of wolves triggered and the status became stuck. It cleared after I saved, quit, then reloaded the save, so I didn't have to revert to an old save in that case.
"What? What? What?" -- The 14th Doctor

It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

YES! I finally beat the game in Honour Mode! And here's the dice I got (Shining Honour):

Image

Of course I used a couple shortcuts, both legit:
Spoiler:
I sided with Gortash so I would not have to fight him. But mainly I used Gale (played him as an Origin character to make sure he didn't leave my party) to destroy the Netherbrain at the stem (NOT the red self destruct button - that is game over, but there is a dialogue option). I tested this on a normal playthrough first to make sure it would work, and yep it did.
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

<crickets>

After 1,800+ hours to achieve this, not even an attaboy? Tough crowd.
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
User avatar
Max Peck
Posts: 14709
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:09 pm
Location: Down the Rabbit-Hole

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Max Peck »

After 1800+ hours, perhaps people are trying to decide whether to congratulate you or stage an intervention. :wink:
"What? What? What?" -- The 14th Doctor

It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
User avatar
Skinypupy
Posts: 20985
Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:12 am
Location: Utah

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Skinypupy »

First time I've ever heard of Honour Mode.

Congrats though, that's pretty amazing.
When darkness veils the world, four Warriors of Light shall come.
User avatar
Carpet_pissr
Posts: 20781
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:32 pm
Location: Columbia, SC

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Carpet_pissr »

Attaboy
User avatar
El Guapo
Posts: 41939
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:01 pm
Location: Boston

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by El Guapo »

Enlarge Image
Black Lives Matter.
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28080
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Unagi »

Sorry, I missed your post! - Big grats!
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

Nerf Alert! You can no longer get the Gith Legendary Silver Sword in Act 1:
Spoiler:
When you disarm Voss he only drops a Gith crossbow. However, the sword you get from the Captain in the Creche is almost as good. And you can still get Raphael's armor in Act 1 (just did it today).
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

TIL that JK Simmons is the voice of Ketheric Thorm. Now I will actually listen when he spouts off.
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
User avatar
msteelers
Posts: 7307
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:30 pm
Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida
Contact:

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by msteelers »

Jaymann wrote:TIL that JK Simmons is the voice of Ketheric Thorm. Now I will actually listen when he spouts off.
He did a fantastic job in his scenes.
User avatar
Brian
Posts: 12786
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:51 am
Location: South of Heaven
Contact:

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Brian »

Enlarge Image
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet." - Abraham Lincoln
User avatar
Carpet_pissr
Posts: 20781
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:32 pm
Location: Columbia, SC

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Carpet_pissr »

LOL!

I'd love to hear his version of "80's Hair and 'Dragon's Lair' as sung to the tune of "The Bear and the Maiden Fair"
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

Great stuff. The "Wyrd" really sells it.
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
User avatar
Max Peck
Posts: 14709
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:09 pm
Location: Down the Rabbit-Hole

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Max Peck »

I've been enjoying the game, but lately it has decided it likes to crash to the desktop. A lot. Especially when I've just finished a tough battle and tried to do a quick save.
"What? What? What?" -- The 14th Doctor

It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
User avatar
Jaymann
Posts: 20527
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm
Location: California

Re: Baldur's Gate 3

Post by Jaymann »

Max Peck wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:04 pm I've been enjoying the game, but lately it has decided it likes to crash to the desktop. A lot. Especially when I've just finished a tough battle and tried to do a quick save.
I think I mentioned this before. I have been using NVIDEA GeForce Now where for $20/month you can play on their high end servers (you must own the game). I have had zero issues and maybe one or two crashes per month. Haven't had any issues playing on my laptop either, but maybe I'm just lucky.
Jaymann
]==(:::::::::::::>
Leave no bacon behind.
Post Reply