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Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:51 am
by LawBeefaroni
Someone photoshop the Chinese flag in there!

Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:40 pm
by El Guapo
https://twitter.com/JabbaNoBadda/status ... 5331418112
Defender of democracy Meijer is happy to endorse the Trumpist who just beat him in the general.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:13 am
by malchior
El Guapo wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:40 pmDefender of democracy Meijer is happy to endorse the Trumpist who just beat him in the general.
In the end he is still one of the plutocrats and a potential oligarch if he plays along.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:19 am
by LawBeefaroni
malchior wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:13 am
El Guapo wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:40 pmDefender of democracy Meijer is happy to endorse the Trumpist who just beat him in the general.
In the end he is still one of the plutocrats and a potential oligarch if he plays along.
Why not? No one else is backing him. Might as well try to mitigate some of those death threats before riding off into the sunset.
Dems seem to love to drive people to the other side.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:22 am
by pr0ner
Kraken wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 1:46 am
That is so yesterday.
Not the first person to post that info after I did, to boot!
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:53 am
by LordMortis
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:19 am
Dems seem to love to drive people to the other side.
Truth. Normally, I'd say that is at least in part because they are so "big tent" but actions like the preceding aren't big tent. They're malicious tactics... Plays usually run by their counter parts.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:55 am
by El Guapo
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:19 am
malchior wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:13 am
El Guapo wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:40 pmDefender of democracy Meijer is happy to endorse the Trumpist who just beat him in the general.
In the end he is still one of the plutocrats and a potential oligarch if he plays along.
Why not? No one else is backing him. Might as well try to mitigate some of those death threats before riding off into the sunset.
Dems seem to love to drive people to the other side.
Do you really think he wouldn't be endorsing Gibbs but for what the DCCC did?
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:01 pm
by stimpy
First it was Trump.
Now it's Biden.
This dude really hates America but has zero issues coming over to play his songs, spout his bullshit and take them American dollars.
F-ing hypocrite.
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/pi ... 25615.html
Link to the interview:
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:06 pm
by stessier
Your logic doesn't follow. I'm assuming Trump and Biden haven't been at his concerts. You can hate how America acts and still think the people are ok.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:09 pm
by stimpy
stessier wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:06 pm
Your logic doesn't follow. I'm assuming Trump and Biden haven't been at his concerts. You can hate how America acts and still think the people are ok.
What is America if not the people?
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:19 pm
by malchior
stimpy wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:09 pmWhat is America if not the people?
We haven't had a President with average approval above break even since Clinton, Congress polls in the teens, SCOTUS now polls in the mid-20s but sure go ahead and try to argue that the American government reflects the average American.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:20 pm
by stimpy
malchior wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:19 pm
stimpy wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:09 pmWhat is America if not the people?
We haven't had a President with average approval above break even since Clinton, Congress polls in the teens, SCOTUS now polls in the mid-20s but sure go ahead and try to argue that the American government reflects the average American.
Hmmmm...how do they get the job?
Political fairies?
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:21 pm
by Zaxxon
Yeah, if the takeaway is that the American people are monolithic [in anything other than COVID precation-caring], try again.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:22 pm
by stimpy
So you guys agree and are okay with Biden being labeled a war criminal.
Interesting.....
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:25 pm
by El Guapo
Roger Waters is a bit of a political idiot. He's one of the the types that assumes that anything that an enemy of America and the UK does must be ok, or at least not all that bad, because they are opposed to America and the UK. Not that everything that the U.S. and the UK does is amazing, but it is possible to be an enemy of America and to still be bad.
But whatever, he's just one schmuck among many.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:33 pm
by malchior
stimpy wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:22 pm
So you guys agree and are okay with Biden being labeled a war criminal.
Interesting.....
I'm not defending Roger Waters here. Notice how I didn't support any of his ideas. What I'm pushing back against is the dubious arguments that American politics in any form reflect "we the people". Even if it did - and again I believe it does not - it still doesn't mean he is a hypocrite to play a show for people who share or don't mind his views in some segment of the population.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:40 pm
by stimpy
If you think for a second that a guy like that doesnt view America and thus most Americans as gun toting, war loving, fat, lazy slobs that are just fine with the status quo, you're nuts.
He's so full of himself that he thinks the Government we have is the full and total fault of the people. Thus, those people suck and must not mind it or they would do something about it rather than let the ineptitude linger for so long.
He's making fun of us all as a country and people pay for the privilege of listening to him do it.
Maybe he's on to something......
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:48 pm
by malchior
stimpy wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:40 pm
If you think for a second that a guy like that doesnt view America and thus most Americans as gun toting, war loving, fat, lazy slobs that are just fine with the status quo, you're nuts.
A guy like that...so what I'm seeing is you're just projecting a hologram to yell at. I mean it might be right. It might not be. But you don't care. You seem to just want to yell about it. Cool. But maybe that's just a different hologram...
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:48 pm
by Zaxxon
stimpy wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:40 pmHe's making fun of us all as a country
Well-deserved!
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:54 pm
by Blackhawk
The American government - 'America', as the rest of the world uses the term, is not even remotely representative of American citizens. But that doesn't mean that it isn't our fault. The fact that our government makes us look like war-loving, gun-toting, lynch-mobbing, beer-swilling, cross burners is because the vast majority of us (the actual shameful 'America') are sitting on the couch watching TV, eating a bag of chips, and saying, "Meh."
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:04 pm
by El Guapo
stimpy wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:40 pm
If you think for a second that a guy like that doesnt view America and thus most Americans as gun toting, war loving, fat, lazy slobs that are just fine with the status quo, you're nuts.
He's so full of himself that he thinks the Government we have is the full and total fault of the people. Thus, those people suck and must not mind it or they would do something about it rather than let the ineptitude linger for so long.
He's making fun of us all as a country and people pay for the privilege of listening to him do it.
Maybe he's on to something......
I mean, obviously he's disgusted with America - he's not exactly keeping that hidden. At the core of this is at what point does one decline to pay to see an artist whose views you disagree with? I have a fairly high tolerance for political idiocy among entertainers because in general I don't expect them to have special political insights nor do I expect them to refrain from having political views.
That said, Waters is actually one that I would decline to see, although in this case it's mainly for domestic harmony, as my wife is very pro-Israel and Roger Waters decidedly is not.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:33 pm
by LordMortis
stimpy wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:01 pm
First it was Trump.
Now it's Biden.
This dude really hates America but has zero issues coming over to play his songs, spout his bullshit and take them American dollars.
F-ing hypocrite.
He lives in the US (and benefiting from what the US has to offer or did the last I recall) and has long since been peace uber alles while the US remains in and funding nationalized armed conflict for his entire life. No hypocrite there. Stubbornly naive or locked in his own sounding board with a loud speaker is arguable. Hypocrite, is a hard sell to me and would be more founded in his living circumstance than his body politic.
His stance on Ukraine is pretty shocking to me but I don't find it to be hypocritical.
https://americansongwriter.com/roger-wa ... -gangster/
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:19 pm
by LawBeefaroni
El Guapo wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:55 am
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:19 am
malchior wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:13 am
El Guapo wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:40 pmDefender of democracy Meijer is happy to endorse the Trumpist who just beat him in the general.
In the end he is still one of the plutocrats and a potential oligarch if he plays along.
Why not? No one else is backing him. Might as well try to mitigate some of those death threats before riding off into the sunset.
Dems seem to love to drive people to the other side.
Do you really think he wouldn't be endorsing Gibbs but for what the DCCC did?
I can say with a fair amount of certainty that if he won the primary he wouldn't be endorsing Gibbs. If he lost without the DCCC intervention, who knows but they certainly didn't distance him from the GOP candidate.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:25 pm
by AWS260
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:39 pm
by Max Peck
Given the assumption that Pratt is a distant 4th, who is the unnamed (unless I missed it) 3rd White Chris?
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:50 pm
by Jaymann
Walken, definitely Walken. Though he could use a bit more cowbell.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:54 pm
by Holman
The four Chrises are Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pine and Chris Pratt.
Three are Marvel and one is DC.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:06 pm
by Max Peck
Ah, OK, thanks (though I should have been able to guess Hemsworth).
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:03 am
by Freyland
So, I'm reading today that Conservatives are starting a dating app called "The Right Stuff", to help " 'young conservatives' find people who see the world the right way."
I'm assuming the male participants are particularly pleased with this program, since no matter how badly the date is going, the woman can't abort it.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:17 am
by TheMix
Freyland wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:03 am
So, I'm reading today that Conservatives are starting a dating app called "The Right Stuff", to help " 'young conservatives' find people who see the world the right way."
I'm assuming the male participants are particularly pleased with this program, since no matter how badly the date is going, the woman can't abort it.

Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:53 pm
by Pyperkub
Interesting what this one juror said about what the jury wanted the punitive damages to reflect:
Sharon said jurors decided to award punitive damages worth 10% of Jones' net worth per parent. Jones is worth between $130 million and $270 million, a plaintiffs' expert testified. The jurors' punitive damages verdict was $45.2 million.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:59 am
by AWS260
Argentina remains
an economic shit show.
Argentina’s annual inflation rate soared past 70 percent in July—the highest level in three decades—according to data released by the Argentine government last week, and it could hit 90 percent by the end of the year. The runaway inflation has left many in the country mired as they turn to barter and parallel currency markets amid dwindling Central Bank reserves, a bloated fiscal deficit, and a looming debt bomb.
Feels like Argentina has been this way my entire adult life. I can't imagine what it's like to live there.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:28 am
by stessier
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:56 pm
by LawBeefaroni
AWS260 wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:59 am
Argentina remains
an economic shit show.
Argentina’s annual inflation rate soared past 70 percent in July—the highest level in three decades—according to data released by the Argentine government last week, and it could hit 90 percent by the end of the year. The runaway inflation has left many in the country mired as they turn to barter and parallel currency markets amid dwindling Central Bank reserves, a bloated fiscal deficit, and a looming debt bomb.
Feels like Argentina has been this way my entire adult life. I can't imagine what it's like to live there.
I met a guy who recently moved from Buenos Aires. He said he loved it there but got a great job offer here. Moved his wife and two kids. He loves it here so far (2 months or so?). But cost of living is a bit of a surprise.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:09 am
by Unagi
Random Fail is an anagram of Florida Man.
Also fyi
‘One Donald Trump’ is an anagram of ‘One Ton Lard Dump’.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:26 am
by LawBeefaroni
Unagi wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:09 am
Random Fail is an anagram of Florida Man.
So is Amoral Find.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:39 am
by malchior
Good reporting here from the NY Times. People have been talking about this for awhile but they waited for enough evidence to pile up to properly label him "plausibly corrupt" (as they'd describe it). We'd properly call it openly and obviously corrupt. In any case, this is no surprise to anyone who watched him. He is definitely a liar. He lied about his residency and has been caught lying about ethical concerns. He has also batted away grifter accusations for some time but holding court in an Italian restaurant owned by two close friends convicted of money laundering!? It sounds made up in the truth is stranger than fiction sense. It's a shame that America seemingly has no way to deal with obvious, open corruption any longer. We'll talk about it but we sure as shit won't do anything about it.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1561684660538818561
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:41 am
by AWS260
Happy primary election day! If you live in Florida, New York, or Oklahoma.
I can't remember the last time I voted on a ballot with so few races. Usually there's a bunch of obscure judgeships for me to guess at. This time it was just state senator and Congressional rep. The state senate race is an easy choice: the solid incumbent or an Eric Adams ally.
The Congressional seat is between a bushel of experienced, similarly liberal candidates, and I'm pretty comfortable with whoever wins. Although I didn't vote for her, I'm kind of cheering for Liz Holtzman, who is 81 years old and last served in Congress when I was two. She has been out of the public eye for many years, but it so pissed off at the state of the country that she decided to get back in the ring. An absolute firecracker.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:02 am
by Defiant
AWS260 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:41 am
Although I didn't vote for her, I'm kind of cheering for Liz Holtzman, who is 81 years old and last served in Congress when I was two. She has been out of the public eye for many years, but it so pissed off at the state of the country that she decided to get back in the ring. An absolute firecracker.
https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/statu ... 7717136385
Polls put her behind and it's possible her political career will end up beginning with a win over someone born during the Grover Cleveland presidency and ending with a loss to someone born during Ronald Reagan's.
Re: Political Randomness
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:09 am
by stessier
How have I not been made aware of Gollum J. Trump on Twitter before now???
https://twitter.com/realGollumTrump/sta ... 2425482241
WE FILES JUICY MOTION BOUT THINGS TO PROTECTS THE PRECIOUS! ELFBI very unfairs to us! Very unfairs to makes us follows tricksy liddle’ lawses!