Only if they are actually doing the apprehension. As a backstop, recon, and force multiplier it is ok and has been done. I have every confidence this will be pretty much the same thing just perhaps over a larger area.
"During the administrations of Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, the National Guard provided support for efforts to secure our southern border," the memo says. "The crisis at our southern border once again calls for the National Guard to help secure our border and protect our homeland."
Trump likes to announce stupid things like patrolling our borders with the military, and then the WH has to scramble and do something that isn’t quite what he said, but appears to be if you squint hard enough.
Only if they are actually doing the apprehension. As a backstop, recon, and force multiplier it is ok and has been done. I have every confidence this will be pretty much the same thing just perhaps over a larger area.
"During the administrations of Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, the National Guard provided support for efforts to secure our southern border," the memo says. "The crisis at our southern border once again calls for the National Guard to help secure our border and protect our homeland."
Nice touch.
I've noticed a growing trend of Trump supporters claiming that Obama was the Worst. President. Ever...while simultaneously pointing to exactly what Obama did as justification for Trumps actions. "See, Obama did the same thing Trump is now proposing!"
I would think that if you're going to continually claim that Obama destroyed America, you'd want Trump to do something different.
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When darkness veils the world, four Warriors of Light shall come.
Zaxxon wrote: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:32 pm
It is a little humorous that what set them off is a post office who put up Obama and Biden.
It's a Republican rep who is facing a challenge from a more extemist Republican who just got out of jail for tax fraud. So it's a political move to keep his seat. Fucking politicians.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "“I like taking the guns early...to go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.” -President Donald Trump. "...To guard, protect, and maintain his liberty, the freedman should have the ballot; that the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." - Frederick Douglass MYT
"During the administrations of Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, the National Guard provided support for efforts to secure our southern border," the memo says. "The crisis at our southern border once again calls for the National Guard to help secure our border and protect our homeland."
I'm all for border security and I don't necessarily disagree with either the idea of a wall or the NG being utilized to backstop our federal border control agents, but what is this 'crisis at the southern border'??
Immigration from the southern border is at, literally, a 50 year low.
Doesn't seem like the NG is really necessary atm. Trump just being trump has more effectively curtailed immigration than is probably possible via any other means, a wall included.
OR
cry in a corner that the world has come to a point where you have to pay for imaginary shit.
"During the administrations of Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, the National Guard provided support for efforts to secure our southern border," the memo says. "The crisis at our southern border once again calls for the National Guard to help secure our border and protect our homeland."
I'm all for border security and I don't necessarily disagree with either the idea of a wall or the NG being utilized to backstop our federal border control agents, but what is this 'crisis at the southern border'??
Immigration from the southern border is at, literally, a 50 year low.
Doesn't seem like the NG is really necessary atm. Trump just being trump has more effectively curtailed immigration than is probably possible via any other means, a wall included.
Haven't you heard about THE CARAVAN OF IMMIGRANTS HEADING NORTH THROUGH MEXICO?? Fox told him.
At the next press conference, reporters should ask Trump to tell us about it. 10-to-1 he'll describe it as a violent migration of lawless barbarians necessitating an armed response at the border rather than the organized protest action (mostly women and children) that it actually is.
I kid. Reporters can't ask that because Trump hasn't held a press conference since three weeks after the inauguration.
Deploying the NG right now is red meat for the base, nothing more.
It's an overreaction based on a lie by Fox to rally Trump's supporters.
Trump is a puppet.
"A lie can run round the world before the truth has got its boots on." -Terry Pratchett, The Truth "The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to those who think they've found it." -Terry Pratchett, Monstrous Regiment
Typical Trump fear-mongering. However, look at the silver lining. As long as Trump is distracted "fixing" problems that don't exist, we're limiting the actual damage he could be doing if he was competent. So there's that.
Just wait until he realizes some of those Mexicans are transexual pedophiles. And some, I assume, are good people.
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Skinypupy wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:36 am
I've noticed a growing trend of Trump supporters claiming that Obama was the worst. President. Ever...while simultaneously pointing to exactly what Obama did as justification for Trumps actions. "See, Obama did the same thing Trump is now proposing!"
I would think that if you're going to continually claim Obama that destroyed America, you'd want Trump to do something different.
Growing? It's been a GOP mating call since the Comrade in Tweet took office. What's even worse the But Clinton did it's and But Obama did it's are nearly always false equivalencies.
Holman wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:54 am
Haven't you heard about THE CARAVAN OF IMMIGRANTS HEADING NORTH THROUGH MEXICO?? Fox told him.
At the next press conference, reporters should ask Trump to tell us about it. 10-to-1 he'll describe it as a violent migration of lawless barbarians necessitating an armed response at the border
And now we know where he got the idea for the wall. Can't let China show us up!
Carpet_pissr wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:56 am
A caravan which was not even destined for the US. I hate Fox so much.
And one that they do every year to raise awareness of the horrible living conditions. But this year, it's suddenly become an "invasion" that requires the National Guard to step in to protect US sovereignty.
Idiots.
When darkness veils the world, four Warriors of Light shall come.
LordMortis wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:10 am
Growing? It's been a GOP mating call since the Comrade in Tweet took office. What's even worse the But Clinton did it's and But Obama did it's are nearly always false equivalencies.
[Trump accidentally nukes Japan.]
"YOU DIDN'T SEE LYIN' DEMOCRATS COMPLAIN WHEN FOUR-EYED HARRY TRUMAN DID IT!"
LordMortis wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:10 am
Growing? It's been a GOP mating call since the Comrade in Tweet took office. What's even worse the But Clinton did it's and But Obama did it's are nearly always false equivalencies.
[Trump accidentally nukes Japan.]
"YOU DIDN'T SEE LYIN' DEMOCRATS COMPLAIN WHEN FOUR-EYED HARRY TRUMAN DID IT!"
They still claim to be the party of Lincoln for christ sake... I'm sure that argument would be used within minutes if that ever happened.
tjg_marantz wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:22 pm
Scott Pruitt... I'm doing today, tomorrow afternoon at the latest.
I'm going out on a limb, I think he hangs on.
I think so too. He's perfectly willing to be Trump's bitch, he's carrying out a super conservative agenda, and Trump is pro-corruption, so I'm not sure why Trump would ditch him. Plus to the extent that Trump wants to at least preserve the option of firing Sessions and replacing him with Pruitt (and so avoiding a senate confirmation hearing for Session's temporary replacement), I don't think he can do that if Pruitt gets fired first.
Trump in WV: "In many places, like California, the same person votes many times. You probably heard about that. They always like to say 'oh that's a conspiracy theory.' Not a conspiracy theory, folks. Millions and millions of people."
Someone should ask Trump why Democrats would need the extra votes in California. Or why, if there are millions of instances of this happening, his Voter Fraud Commission couldn't find a singe goddamn one.
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When darkness veils the world, four Warriors of Light shall come.
Because those liberal coastal elites want to humiliate Trump and deny him the universal acclaim that he so richly deserves, but they're too lazy to actually go to the heartland themselves. Obviously.
We can't even get people to LEGALLY vote. How the hell does he think millions of people would have the motivation to figure out how to do it ILLEGALLY?
And yesterday, it came out where this journey coming up, women are raped at levels that nobody has ever seen before. They don’t want to mention that. So we have to change our laws,
When asked what the president was referring to in regard to the “levels” of rapes, a White House official said the president was referring to “a stat.”
In context, it's his way of saying "see, I'm right 'They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.'" without actually proving it.
I heard after sourcing his own quote as evidence, he held up a candid of Clinton that made her like a grandmother with dementia acting up.
The best part about these quotes is that he gave them while speaking at a tax reform roundtable.
I guess tax reform is the new infrastructure week.
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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:19 pm
I'm even more confused. Is he talking about all women? Women in Mexico? Women participating in this caravan? Is this a rape caravan now?
Every day brings fresh evidence that facts don't matter to 1/3 of the American population. They simply dismiss any data that contradicts what they're told to believe. Arguing with them is futile; you can't win an argument when evidence is irrelevant.
The 1/3 of us in the reality-based community need to work on the 1/3 who just don't give a shit.
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:19 pm
I'm even more confused. Is he talking about all women? Women in Mexico? Women participating in this caravan? Is this a rape caravan now?
He's saying if we build a wall rape caravans can't cross in to the US and therefore rape will go down in Mexico because they can't send their rapist caravans to us and rape will return to levels people have seen before. Jesus, it's like you don't even understand how the Post Office works in the US. If we just slapped up Amazon with an Antitrust lawsuit, we wouldn't have to subsidize them through the postal service with the taxes small businesses and American people to build that wall.
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:19 pm
I'm even more confused. Is he talking about all women? Women in Mexico? Women participating in this caravan? Is this a rape caravan now?
He's saying if we build a wall rape caravans can't cross in to the US and therefore rape will go down in Mexico because they can't send their rapist caravans to us and rape will return to levels people have seen before. Jesus, it's like you don't even understand how the Post Office works in the US. If we just slapped up Amazon with an Antitrust lawsuit, we wouldn't have to subsidize them through the postal service with the taxes small businesses and American people to build that wall.