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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:25 am
by Grundbegriff

Many had lost their way and the village now suffered grievously. As the searing sun climbed in the sky, several forest dwellers gathered on the high road to consider Cesare's inglorious demise.

After a time of respectful silence, a wise man stepped forward and declared, "We have been deceived and nearly destroyed, but we are not damned. There is yet hope. For I have seen in a dream that
Mr Bubbles has fallen under the dark way of the sword. Mistakes we have made, yes, but ending his life will be no error. It is the sure path to an end of this menace."

The accused interrupted the murmuring of his comrades. "But friend--look at me! I bear no sword! No sword at all!" The wise one stepped forward and pointed an accusing finger, but said nothing in reply.

"Friends. Friends! Let's not be hasty! Much is at stake!" Mr Bubbles took a step back, and then, fearing the move would appear defensive, stepped forward toward his accuser. This time, the latter replied,"You are at stake, if I may say."

With that, the smith stepped forward and applied all the strength of his brawny hands to the throat of his prey, and with the fury of one who has lost nearly everything-- and making a great show of yanking the writhing form this way and that-- the smith choked the life away. Or so it seemed, until the transformation began. Limbs fused together, withdrew into the torso, and narrowed to straight blackish regularity. Flapping and gasping gave way to the cold, still silence. Finally, the smith stood holding downward by its hilt the same terrible, beautiful blade that each had seen in the midst of the flame just days ago.

"You see for yourself", declared the wise one, "that this one was a
Slayer of innocents."

With that, all ran toward the home of Mr Bubbles, as much a victim as a perpetrator of the sword's malevolent will. They found his strangled form before the hearth. Standing beside the corpse, the smith studied the weapon and with much hemming and weighing, he considered what to do. At last, he turned to his fellows. "I shall take this to the forge and destroy it, for no such power-- no such fierce, splendid magnificence as we find in Lifedrinker-- should ever be allowed to persist in this world by those who embrace peace, light, and life."

The others nodded assent at one another as the smith departed. He heard, dim in the distance, an utterance of disbelief that the plague was finally over. "We must make amends" said one. "Hope" whispered another.

Back at the forge, the smith carefully wrapped the dreadful, glistening edge in a flaxen fabric, for want of a proper sheath. Sure from his window's view that none had followed, the smith knelt at his hearth and slowly, deliberately introduced the sword blade-upward into the space above his flue. There, he set the hilt onto hooks that he had forged and mounted within the chimney days before for that same purpose.

"Perhaps with a study of its workmanship, I may yet reverse and put to good some of the ill its recondite craft has wrought. Just a bit of careful scrutiny, without worrying the others, and then I shall destroy it once and for all".
It is Day, and a season of mourning has begun.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:26 am
by Grundbegriff

Code: Select all

Night1: protect Remus,        slay Remus,      scan Austin
Day1:   protect Chaosraven,   kill Kelric

Night2: protect LordMortis,   slay Remus,      scan Chaosraven
Day2:   protect Austin,       kill PR_GMR

Night3: protect Ralph-Wiggum, slay Lassr,      scan Bakhtosh
Day3:   protect LordMortis,   kill Bakhtosh (slayer)

Night4: protect Chaosraven,   slay Newcastle,  scan Orinoco
Day4:   protect nobody,       kill Orinoco (slayer)

Night5: protect Ralph-Wiggum, slay Chaosraven, scan LordMortis 
Day5:                         kill pr0ner

Night6:                     , slay LordMortis, scan tru1cy 
Day6:                         kill Silky

Night7:                     , slay Cesare    , scan Mr Bubbles
Day6:                         kill Mr Bubbles (slayer)

Forest dwellers win!
  • Bakhtosh: Slayer
  • Mr Bubbles: Slayer
  • Orinoco: Slayer
  • Chaosraven: Snaresman
  • Ralph-Wiggum: Tracker
  • Austin: Forest-dweller
  • Cesare: Forest-dweller
  • Kelric: Forest-dweller
  • Kraegor: Forest-dweller
  • Lassr: Forest-dweller
  • LordMortis: Forest-dweller
  • McNutt: Forest-dweller
  • Newcastle: Forest-dweller
  • pr0ner: Forest-dweller
  • PR_GMR: Forest-dweller
  • Remus West: Forest-dweller
  • Silky: Forest-dweller
  • tru1cy: Forest-dweller

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:32 am
by Cesare
w00t, well played village.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:39 am
by McNutt
God job staying alive, Ralph and good save, Chasraven.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:42 am
by Silky
Yup good job to everyone... even you sneaky little slayers. They had their backs against the well from the get-go and managed very well. Now time to take my three month break from these damn WW games :)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:45 am
by Remus West
Heh, for those of you wondering why Chaosraven protected me the first night, he told me that he was to easy a lynch target during the day for them to come after him particularly if I died as he would get the blame, so he kept me from dying. Of course when I came forward people started saying he would be the one to attack me..... :lol:

As a side note, he has NEVER killed me on the first night. He will now since I posted that but he has not done so in the past. I, on the other hand, have killed him first night both chances I got. Although we only did it the second time because he was the Hunter.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:50 am
by Mr Bubbles
Yeah that first day was a bummer. It really set us behind. I personally believe that this ruleset is geared toward the village. But it was fun. Man Ralph you were that close to being my next target. Of course scanning and finding Bahktosh and Orinoco one after another really hurt. I didn't think we had much of a chance after that.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:50 am
by Bakhtosh
Damn...Ralph was never on my suspect list.

Good job...you're getting really good at playing covert. ChaosRaven, not so much.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:53 am
by Mr Bubbles
Bakhtosh wrote:Damn...Ralph was never on my suspect list.

Good job...you're getting really good at playing covert. ChaosRaven, not so much.
Yep he's now on my kill first night list, along with Chaos, and Remus.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:54 am
by Bakhtosh
Out intent was never to frame ChaosRaven. We honestly didn't believe that people would think him dumb enough to kill Remus on turn 1. Our original intent was to frame LordMortis for Remus' death...and to deny his talents to the village of course.

After that, we were mostly shooting blind, trying to find clues that would lead us to the circle. Unfortunately, in a PM game, the specials don't need to drop too many clues about their identity...especially when they have a confirmed innocent to connect them on turn 1. :(

Bad bit o' luck, that...

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:54 am
by Remus West
Mr Bubbles wrote:
Bakhtosh wrote:Damn...Ralph was never on my suspect list.

Good job...you're getting really good at playing covert. ChaosRaven, not so much.
Yep he's now on my kill first night list, along with Chaos, and Remus.
How the hell did I get there? I helped you consume an entire village you hairy bastage.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:57 am
by Bakhtosh
Damn...Austin was in the circle the whole time...you bastard!

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:58 am
by Mr Bubbles
Remus West wrote:
Mr Bubbles wrote:
Bakhtosh wrote:Damn...Ralph was never on my suspect list.

Good job...you're getting really good at playing covert. ChaosRaven, not so much.
Yep he's now on my kill first night list, along with Chaos, and Remus.
How the hell did I get there? I helped you consume an entire village you hairy bastage.
Oh give yourself some credit. You've been useful to certain villages even if you kill an entire one by yourself.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:58 am
by PR_GMR
Yay, the Villagers won! Well-played.

So Ralph-Wiggum was the real Tracker? :ninja: :P

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:05 am
by Lassr
Slayers actually did a good job, if it wasn't for Ralph hitting those 2 in a row they probably would have won. I didn't have a single one of them identified up to the time I got killed. I was so sure it was LordMortis and 2 quiet ones.

Orinoco was no surprise as a quiet one but Bahktosh wasn't in my top 7 or 8.

PR-GMR really caused a lot of confusion for the village. But it did elimate tru1cy from the top of my list after PR_GMR was outed as not the tracker by the inner circle and the inner circle didn't contact him. I thought for sure that a slayer was putting him up to it so tru1cy was probably innocent. (come to find out PR_GMR initiated that move on his own without help :? )

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:06 am
by LordMortis
Mr Bubbles wrote:
Bakhtosh wrote:Damn...Ralph was never on my suspect list.

Good job...you're getting really good at playing covert. ChaosRaven, not so much.
Yep he's now on my kill first night list, along with Chaos, and Remus.
That was my PM to him on the first day, which is what I'd guees put me on the top of his suspect list. Go figure. And with his responses being all aloof and his playing style really being that much different in this game I had him pegged as slayer right up until PR_GMRs death. Then I figured him to be the tracker with a very outside chance of being slayer, but definately not a forrester. Even unto his contacting me and telling me was tracker, I still had him on the very very very outside chance of pulling one over as a slayer.

BTW PR_GMR,

I saw your post in the other thread. I didn't want to say anything while the game was going on but just because I (or we) think you play was totally insane is no reason to feel like you spoiled the game. That is part of the game so long as you are not intentionally trying to break the game all is always good... Even if I get frustrated because I don't agree with or understand you.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:10 am
by Lassr
LordMortis wrote:

BTW PR_GMR,

I saw your post in the other thread. I didn't want to say anything while the game was going on but just because I (or we) think you play was totally insane is no reason to feel like you spoiled the game. That is part of the game so long as you are not intentionally trying to break the game all is always good... Even if I get frustrated because I don't agree with or understand you.
I agree, you didn't spoil the game you just threw a monkey wrench in that no one has had to deal with before. Made it a little more interesting even if it did confuse us.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:13 am
by Remus West
LordMortis wrote:I saw your post in the other thread. I didn't want to say anything while the game was going on but just because I (or we) think you play was totally insane is no reason to feel like you spoiled the game. That is part of the game so long as you are not intentionally trying to break the game all is always good... Even if I get frustrated because I don't agree with or understand you.
Seconded. If you go back to the Remuscide game, I was outed as a Mason because of a strange play by a villager claiming to be the Seer. Had we made better use of it we could have easily bagged a few bad guys because of it but everyone, myself maybe most of all, got caught up in thinking that it was such an insane play that only a wolf would do it and when the perp turned out to be human we were caught flat footed. Odd plays add spice to the games. They are the fun of these games.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:15 am
by Kraegor
BTW PR_GMR,

I saw your post in the other thread. I didn't want to say anything while the game was going on but just because I (or we) think you play was totally insane is no reason to feel like you spoiled the game. That is part of the game so long as you are not intentionally trying to break the game all is always good... Even if I get frustrated because I don't agree with or understand you.
/shrug. Sometimes a ploy works, sometimes it don't.
I got the impression PR_GMR was doing a Grund impersonation.

I always think the "you've broken the game for the village!!" complaints are just a tad over the top. Overreaction due to non-comprehension. If 1 innocent can break the entire game in one turn...methinks the ruleset may need tweaking...

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:21 am
by PR_GMR
I saw your post in the other thread. I didn't want to say anything while the game was going on but just because I (or we) think you play was totally insane is no reason to feel like you spoiled the game. That is part of the game so long as you are not intentionally trying to break the game all is always good... Even if I get frustrated because I don't agree with or understand you.
Oh, it's ok, Lord Mortis. I sat out the other Stormbringer game to take a normal break, not because I had any bad feelings from this game. These games tend to be very taxing on my time while I'm at work so I took a natural break.

I do see why many thought I was insane from the way I played. Let me copy and paste my game rationale.. which I PMd Grundbegriff with last week.
Here's what I was up to?

I knew Kelric was innocent on Day 1. Austin went to all length to build a 'case' against him, but I read thru Kelric's posts and saw that he was just being a Punk. Basically, Kelric was being just Kelric.

I didn't vote for Kelric, because I saw the village was 'bandwagonin'. They had become so frustrated with the fluctuations of the voting process, folks were simply voting for whoever spoke up and 'rocked the boat a bit'. I saw this happen in Day 1 several times. Newcastle and Silky almost got 'bandwagoned' out during Day 1. I decided to keep my trap shut--for the most part--so I could survive into Day 2... Specially since Remus got killed in the night.

During Day 1, Remus contacted me thru PM and started 'feeling me out'. After a couple of PM's, I decided that Remus was innocent and to trust him. Remus decided to posit himself as the leader of villagers by his admission that he was protected during the 1st night and that he knew who the Snarer was. Remus confided in me that he would be killed in the night. Surely, he was gone.

I'm mostly a role-player, so in one post to Cesare I roleplayed a bit and kinda hinted that I was in 'the inner circle'. The village seemed to have bought it...so I decided to fake being the Tracker.

Since the village was rudderless, faking the Tracker gave me several opportunities:

For starters, the innocent villagers (the ones with good sense, anyways) would want to keep the tracker alive.. so I would further my chances of survival by admitting to being the Tracker (so I thought!).

Second, I would be buying the real Tracker and Snareman some time... since, by openly stating I was a Tracker, I would have died in the night anyways after Day 1. This would have given my third reason some time to happen:

Third, the villagers could have built a well-developed 'inner circle' thru PMs, and gotten their act together to flush the Slayers out. Maybe even bring me in (or I would have lead it) I attempted to do this by PMing Austin...but the Dumbass!! turned on me (it's my belief that Austin is innocent) It's yet to be seen if this will happen. I surely hope the real Tracker and Snareman are still out there.

Fourth, and most important, I was attempting to make the ruse work the village's advantage by getting someone who I suspected of being a Slayer lynched. I would put my suspcion that tru1cy is a Slayer at 80%.. I tried my darnest to hold my ruse long enough so that the village would lynch tru1cy. (I think I inadvertly uncovered Austin as being an Innocent by an inconsisten post he made to me on pg 8.)

I don't think I would have kept the ruse going for the entire game.. I would have come out, and declared my life by Day 2.. (or I would have been killed tonight, most likely). But it would have been awesome by nabbing a potential Slayer by pulling out this ruse.. so that's why I did it all.

Alas, this village is being very contrary.. and the crowd turned on me (specially Austin, who's the worse player in this game, imo).. Whoever the Slayers are, they're playing it well.

Oh, and to the very end.. I started to highly suspect LordMortis.. because he's literally foaming at the mouth on his posts. They're making no sense, but somehow he's pulling the veil over the rest of the village.

Oh well. The whole thing was hilarious! I had a lot of fun playing this one, Grund.
BTW, nothing personal, Austin. :lol:

Turned out I was indeed insane, because tru1cy was innocent after all. Man, that would have been one hell of a downer if I would have gotten him lynched.

In general, I was trying to create some power in the vacuum left after Remu's slaying, and I was buying the real Tracker and Snareman some time... which seemed to have worked. :lol: :P

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:33 am
by Kelric
Thanks for killing me, you bastards.

And BTW, I'm out for the weekend so I won't be participating in Grund's next game for the first few days if it starts up right away.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:36 am
by Grundbegriff
LordMortis wrote:just because I (or we) think you play was totally insane is no reason to feel like you spoiled the game. That is part of the game so long as you are not intentionally trying to break the game all is always good... Even if I get frustrated because I don't agree with or understand you.
+1. I don't think there's much room to blame PR_GMR for anything. I didn't understand his ploy and asked him privately, after his death, what he had in mind. He did have something in mind, having to do with stirring certain waters and calling attention away from the true Specials. That may not be how I would play it, but it's surely a reasonable way to play.

Good job everyone. Neither team dominated the other, there were many surprises, and luck was nearly as important as skill. Bubbles is right that Ralph made some fortunate choices of whom to scan. It's also true, though, that even with his partners dead, Bubbles played a good endgame. If he had chosen to kill Ralph last night, the Slayers might've won. On the other hand, Bubbles's choices of target at the end were rather clever, and Bubbles really had no way to discern that Ralph was the key, since Ralph was poker-faced the whole time.

The great irony, from up here on the podium, is that right after every death cycle -- a few times, anyhow -- Bubbles would declare something like "that was a surprise!" or "I wonder why they did that!" when the blood was on his own hands, and at the same time, Ralph would declare "I wonder whom the tracker scanned" or "I don't know any more than you do." The irony is that they were using the same tactics against one another, and employing similar rhetoric for that reason.

Tip for future games: the lady doth protest too much!

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:37 am
by Grundbegriff
Kelric wrote:Thanks for killing me, you bastards.

And BTW, I'm out for the weekend so I won't be participating in Grund's next game for the first few days if it starts up right away.
I'm thinking perhaps it should start on Tuesday, after the holiday.

Whaddya think?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:38 am
by Remus West
Kelric wrote:Thanks for killing me, you bastards.
No problem. I chose you because I couldn't choose Chaosraven. :lol:

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:11 am
by Bakhtosh
BTW, PR_GMR, you almost got yourself killed overnight, and had you shut up instead of going public, you would have likely been the next night's kill, truly buying the specials some time, but once you came out against tru1cy, we knew you couldn't be a special. It also caused the circle to abandon tru1cy, taking him off our list of specials. It proved LM wasn't in the circle and outed ChaosRaven.

Your actions took 3 people off our list of suspected specials and gave us one confirmed special. It was an interesting move, and had tru1cy been guilty, it might have paid off, but in the grand scheme, it benefitted the slayers greatly.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:20 am
by LordMortis
Bakhtosh wrote:It proved LM wasn't in the circle and outed ChaosRaven.
That was really my fault. But not being able to trust Raven either and having set an ultimatum up, I followed through.

What I am mildly surprised about it order of the protection scheme CR chose. I'd have figured you'd have killed him on the night you did. Well, actually I'd have figured him for figuring you'd have killed him on the night you did and there for have figured him as protected that night. Two save in one game would have been absolutely huge. That's like saying two free scans and two free shots at lynching in hopes of nailing a bad guy.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:30 am
by PR_GMR
Bakhtosh wrote:BTW, PR_GMR, you almost got yourself killed overnight, and had you shut up instead of going public, you would have likely been the next night's kill, truly buying the specials some time, but once you came out against tru1cy, we knew you couldn't be a special. It also caused the circle to abandon tru1cy, taking him off our list of specials. It proved LM wasn't in the circle and outed ChaosRaven.

Your actions took 3 people off our list of suspected specials and gave us one confirmed special. It was an interesting move, and had tru1cy been guilty, it might have paid off, but in the grand scheme, it benefitted the slayers greatly.
Lynch Baktosh! Dig his body up and lynch him again! :lol:

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yeah, i'll have to reconsider my process on the next game.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:35 am
by Bakhtosh
PR_GMR wrote:
Lynch Baktosh! Dig his body up and lynch him again! :lol:
You first. :P

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:09 pm
by Silky
You evil slayers never even thought about giving me the bidness did ya :(

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:17 pm
by Grundbegriff
Bakhtosh wrote:Your actions took 3 people off our list of suspected specials and gave us one confirmed special. It was an interesting move, and had tru1cy been guilty, it might have paid off, but in the grand scheme, it benefitted the slayers greatly.
Not so greatly that you managed to nab the Tracker, eh?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:49 pm
by Bakhtosh
Silky wrote:You evil slayers never even thought about giving me the bidness did ya :(
I died before I could comment to the other slayers about my thoughts on your role, but my comment to Remus was, "If Silky's the tracker, I'll eat my hat."
Grundbeobvious wrote:Not so greatly that you managed to nab the Tracker, eh?
Narrowed down the field though. A couple more turns, and it would have paid off. Even though the PR_GMR events likely brought me to the attention of the tracker who scanned me to get me into the circle.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:50 pm
by Orinoco
Silky wrote:You evil slayers never even thought about giving me the bidness did ya :(
No - we didn't believe you for a second. Time for some acting classes I think :twisted:

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:51 pm
by Newcastle
really fun game guys. Very enjoyable though i was a snack pretty quick. Congrats on the slayers, i will have to say in all honesty i had no clue who you guys were. I had maybe an inkling...in the vein of "it could be orinoco/baktosh/Bubbles" but it never rose above that...you were always under my radar.

I will explain this much, on day 1 i had asked that Remus pass along of a pair codes to the two parties he was in contact with..the tracker and the snareman, i had essentially placed some trust in him and thought he was probably truly in contact with 'em. My hope was that if i were ever to be contacted it would create a pre-vetting of them, so i knew that they were most likely who they said they were. So in the game when i said I was looking for something...i was in fact looking for those codes to be resupplied back to me. Didn't do me much good, since i was taken out pretty early...but am glad i was for it allowed the tracker more time.

Oh i had no problem with PRGMR move...because i suspected, that he had pretty done a suicide move for the sake of the village...pretty amusing actually, and to be honest clever in the hopes of drawing attention away from the real specials. Nice team attitude. And it was also amusing semi roleplaying with you. I really should have tried harder this time around.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:53 pm
by Remus West
What frustrated me was that pr0ner was not online at the end of day 1 so I could not get him to come out as the Snaresman. Had he done that would you guys (The Slayers) have bought him being mad at me for "blowing his cover". I wanted him to say he had protected himself from lynching on day 1 so could not protect himself night 1 and was afraid he would die. Then CR was going to protect him in the hopes that you would attack him and we would get a second save and have a group of 6(two portected attackees, the snaresman, the Tracker and 2 scanees) on night 2 without having lost anyone to a night kill.

I thought the "clues" I planted during the first days votes might point you towards him but, much like Austin's subtle hints at things, I think it went completely overlooked.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:59 pm
by Silky
Orinoco wrote:
Silky wrote:You evil slayers never even thought about giving me the bidness did ya :(
No - we didn't believe you for a second. Time for some acting classes I think :twisted:
Remind me next time I am the actual hunter to go that route :twisted:

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:00 pm
by Grundbegriff
Bakhtosh wrote:
Grundbeobvious wrote:Not so greatly that you managed to nab the Tracker, eh?
Narrowed down the field though. A couple more turns, and it would have paid off.
"Couple more turns?" In other words-- at the last possible second? That pretty much proves that PR_GMR didn't tilt things toward the Slayers, as you suggest. At least, there's no evidence that he helped your effort to find Specials. Chaosraven came to your attention because LordMortis (from his perspective, quite reasonably) outed him.
Even though the PR_GMR events likely brought me to the attention of the tracker who scanned me to get me into the circle.
In other words, PR_GMR not only didn't help the Slayers, but actively harmed 'em.

QED Image

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:08 pm
by LordMortis
Grundbegriff wrote:Chaosraven came to your attention because LordMortis (from his perspective, quite reasonably) outed him.
In hindsight it might have not been reasonable. But then, if I was the one who pushed for PR_GMRs death with harsh certainty and I had them claiming backing the PR_GMR was not part of the inner circle from those claiming to be the inner circle and I kept them hidden. What does the village do if I die in the night?

In retrospect I really don't know what position I should have taken. I still don't have it pegged.

I am still confident that PR_GMRs play was the wrong play and yet in many ways his play had a direct influence on the outcome of the game, an outcome in which his side won.

Absolutely fascinating.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:48 pm
by Chaosraven
Everyone understands there is no possible "covert" way I can act, right?

I have now posted in successive games where I have been Bad Guy and Good Guy using my standard "400page essay"Chaosraving as well as the Actively Suspicious Too Quiet NewRaven.

Very specifically to allow for a more Random Pattern of Behavior regardless which side I'm on.

Not that it matters as getting me lynched is still like falling out of a boat and hitting water.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:49 pm
by Mr Bubbles
Remus West wrote:What frustrated me was that pr0ner was not online at the end of day 1 so I could not get him to come out as the Snaresman. Had he done that would you guys (The Slayers) have bought him being mad at me for "blowing his cover"
Honestly at least from my perspective we questioned everything and knowing it was a PM game we pretty much thought that nothing coming out was as it should be. We tried our best and tried to analyze things as much as we could, but Ralph kept the cards pretty. In retrospect like Grund said i will analyze the rhetoric a bit closer. Bahktosh did a lot of ground work and caused a bit of confusion at the beginning. I like how Orinoco stayed out of sight. I personally think scanning Orinoco was blind luck, but I could be mistaken. Those two nights in a row along with no kill in the beginning really put us at a major disadvantage.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:50 pm
by Austin
FWIW, I PM'd PR_GMR after his death and just said, nothing personal - that I just didn't get his play. As the original scan and part of the inner circle who was the best choice to come forward if need be, I was trying to keep some semblance of direction in the village - without coming out needlessly.

Chaos and I were struggling at the time also to be sure Wiggum wasn't a slayer. We misled him once or twice and protected someone who we said we weren't. :oops: I PM'd Grund once and said I almost hope that Wiggum was bad and we could trap him. :P PR_GMR was causing needless confusion amongst us trying to build trust. ;)

With regard to Kelric, Remus asked me to start a lynch against him. He asked and 2.5 hours later, Kelric was dead. :P

With regard to PR_GMR's assertion that I was the worst player this game, no offense taken. I was inside from the start, I pumped The Tosh for info in PM's, brought an unscanned in for dirty work and lived to the end without allowing any insiders to be lynched. If that's a bad job, I'll play a bad game every game. Or did you mean like 1980's bad? :lol: