You've obviously never met her. She's woefully unaware of modern events and popular culture. For instance she's never watched Killer Klowns from Outer Space or read a Paste Pot Pete comic.
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Both those things put her firmly in the 99th percentile of this planet's population.
There are Ecuadorian tree sloths who know who Trump is, for christ's sake.
There are Ecuadorian tree sloths who know who Trump is, for christ's sake.
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Gas prices dropping below $3 a gallon. Twice as many jobs added in October as expected. Record stock market highs. Consumer confidence is at the highest level in 3 years.Lawbeefaroni wrote:What about the current economic climate would make casual voters break for Harris?
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Yeah, he's the brilliant real estate magnate and deal-maker with a hit TV show and a Home Alone 2 cameo.
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She knew who Trump is. She just didn't know that Biden is the current President and the race is between Harris and Trump.
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I would give just about anything to be that oblivious, at least for another week.
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Yeah, I still think she's prankin' your ass.
The Ecuadorian tree sloths are known to be shrewd day traders, so they probably are aware of his financial side.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:01 amYeah, he's the brilliant real estate magnate and deal-maker with a hit TV show and a Home Alone 2 cameo.
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I was talking to my guitar teacher who is a really young kid in his 20s and he said he's not voting because "the government sucked" and then he went on to express admiration for the Unabomber.
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Can you take guitar classes from somewhere other than a state prison?YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:13 am I was talking to my guitar teacher who is a really young kid in his 20s and he said he's not voting because "the government sucked" and then he went on to express admiration for the Unabomber.
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Yep. And it falls on deaf ears. The economy is awful. Inflation is out of control. Wait what? Are you doing worse, now than you were before? yes. How? Eggs are nearly $2 a dozen. So you're cutting corners on food? We eat out a lot, actually and get everything delivered now. So you're looking for a depression to deflate costs the corporations jacked during COVID. Well, no. Maybe you're looking for a market pullback from the record highs? That would hurt my retirement. A return to no interest on your savings? Banks shouldn't get my money for free So this economy is treating you pretty well. I can't complain. I've doing well but the economy is terrible. No one wants to work any more. You want grown people to get paid $10 an hour and live with their parents? I wouldn't. People ought to have enough to live on. And it goes back and forth because "The left is too far left. Too radical. And taxes are too high." So the GOP has been cutting your taxes and you support their proposes to the Social Security and Medicare? No. I paid for those.YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:00 amGas prices dropping below $3 a gallon. Twice as many jobs added in October as expected. Record stock market highs. Consumer confidence is at the highest level in 3 years.Lawbeefaroni wrote:What about the current economic climate would make casual voters break for Harris?
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I've either shut them down or shut down. I have no idea how you can tell a person, living less pay check to pay check and who regularly replace pocket computer that can be more productive and entertaining than the totally of your non travel entertainment spend in 2008 that the economy isn't so bad and that the people looking for improved ways to take from them and dismantle civil society are the people with billions in pocket.
I have to wonder how many of these undecideds or non MAGA listen to TFG speak, like ever? Forget the SC. Forget Project 2025. Forget Shady and Paypal Mafia. Forget all of the TFG associates and military warning us of what he wants to the next step to be. Even forget Jan 6 (God, how can anyone forget Jan 6?)
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I just saw it pointed out that unemployment and inflation are lower right now than at this point in 1984, when Reagan was just days from winning a landslide for his victories over unemployment and inflation.
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Not that casual voters will pay attention to jobs reports but Friday's is going to be dismal. I have always believed that the reports are hand waving and PR but Friday will show the effects of the hurricanes, mass layoffs, and two major strikes. But again, I don't think casual voters look at jobs reports.YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:00 amGas prices dropping below $3 a gallon. Twice as many jobs added in October as expected. Record stock market highs. Consumer confidence is at the highest level in 3 years.Lawbeefaroni wrote:What about the current economic climate would make casual voters break for Harris?
Consumer confidence may at 3 year highs, but that also means it is lower than it was 4 years ago. The GOP refrain has been "are you better off today?" Many people don't feel that they are, based on consumer confidence numbers.
Gas prices, I'll ll give you, though we're still above $3.50 here. But food prices continue to rise. It may be cheaper to drive the Tahoe to get groceries but it's much more expensive to fill it up with groceries. And don't forget rent prices.
Stock prices don't matter to peole who aren't invested in them. Those who are invested and getting rich on those investments want Trump's tax policies.
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Oh, so he's the genius billionaire behind DJT.hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:12 am
The Ecuadorian tree sloths are known to be shrewd day traders, so they probably are aware of his financial side.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:01 amYeah, he's the brilliant real estate magnate and deal-maker with a hit TV show and a Home Alone 2 cameo.
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No, that was Eric....
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You can't have the idea that uninformed voters don't pay attention to politics and the idea that uninformed voters are succumbing to misinformation about the economy at the same time. Truly uninformed voters are going to vote based on their current status.
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Why not? They don't follow politics but they get political ads and hear "Biden did this" from all their friends. And if coca cola is $20 a case they'll think things are out of control.YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:07 am You can't have the idea that uninformed voters don't pay attention to politics and the idea that uninformed voters are succumbing to misinformation about the economy at the same time. Truly uninformed voters are going to vote based on their current status.
And Joe Rogan or Hulk Hogan or Elon Musk will back them up on that.
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Have either of you considered Ketamine?
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All I see is millions of blind people trying to play the shell game.
There is no historical precedent for this election, and with close polls and no valid comparisons, there is no basis for any expectation.
There is no historical precedent for this election, and with close polls and no valid comparisons, there is no basis for any expectation.
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What keeps them from getting pro-Harris political ads and hearing "Trump did this" from all their friends?Lawbeefaroni wrote:Why not? They don't follow politics but they get political ads and hear "Biden did this" from all their friends.
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If Trump wins, I’d like to be oblivious for the next 4 years. Seriously, I can’t take another 4 years of Cheeto Man for my
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My only consolation should Trump win (small though it may be) is that there are many, many people out there (even in his own party) that recognize his danger. We won't be alone in our disgust, despair, and our willingness to fight these assholes every step of the way. The American people may sleepwalk into fascism, but I don't believe they're going to simply accept it once they wake up.
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That and the fact that many people who support him will find their faces being eaten. I mean, I'm sure my face will be eaten somehow, but it helps in some small way to see people wailing "I didn't think the leopard would eat my face!"YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:23 pm My only consolation should Trump win (small though it may be) is that there are many, many people out there (even in his own party) that recognize his danger. We won't be alone in our disgust, despair, and our willingness to fight these assholes every step of the way. The American people may sleepwalk into fascism, but I don't believe they're going to simply accept it once they wake up.
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OMG, so much this. I tell my father about how Thiel has cost him so much money through collusion and how TFGs presidency will devalue his worth by diverting public spend in to private equity and he just hums along and complains and still goes along. And that's from the reasonably well off and retired. All these underground economy low income and tax cheat TFG supporters getting theirs, well seeya! The only people getting ahead in TFG are going to be independently wealthy private equity who don't need to get further ahead and it will be at the expense of everyone else and all of the public spaces we all benefit from. This is to say nothing of who gets set back. Efficiency!!!!
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The media outlets for low information voters are GOP leaning. As are friends who are more vocal about politics. This is rhe GOP "ground game".YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:08 pmWhat keeps them from getting pro-Harris political ads and hearing "Trump did this" from all their friends?Lawbeefaroni wrote:Why not? They don't follow politics but they get political ads and hear "Biden did this" from all their friends.
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raydude wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:09 pmThat and the fact that many people who support him will find their faces being eaten. I mean, I'm sure my face will be eaten somehow, but it helps in some small way to see people wailing "I didn't think the leopard would eat my face!"YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:23 pm My only consolation should Trump win (small though it may be) is that there are many, many people out there (even in his own party) that recognize his danger. We won't be alone in our disgust, despair, and our willingness to fight these assholes every step of the way. The American people may sleepwalk into fascism, but I don't believe they're going to simply accept it once they wake up.
He tried during his first term and fortunately was unprepared and inept. But the danger was still there. The disgust and despair was there. The only fight was the 2020 campaign. Go back to page 1 of the Trump Presodency thread and see how, on a daily basis, he tried to undermine democracy.
If he gets in again, he won't be unprepared and inept. The team assembled for 2025 is not going to squander the opportunity to completely dismantle our Constitutional system.
Some of his supporters getting caught up in mass deportation or DOJ reprisals won't be of any consolation to me.
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If they ever thought the leopard was eating their face, I don't think we'd be where we are. It's not like their faces have never been eaten before.raydude wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:09 pmThat and the fact that many people who support him will find their faces being eaten. I mean, I'm sure my face will be eaten somehow, but it helps in some small way to see people wailing "I didn't think the leopard would eat my face!"YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:23 pm My only consolation should Trump win (small though it may be) is that there are many, many people out there (even in his own party) that recognize his danger. We won't be alone in our disgust, despair, and our willingness to fight these assholes every step of the way. The American people may sleepwalk into fascism, but I don't believe they're going to simply accept it once they wake up.
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Once they're done with our faces, the leopards will designate a new subsection of the population to be 'them.' As long as there are Others, and you're not an Other, there's nothing to worry about.
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I guess I have more faith in the American people than most. I think, on average, collective "we" tend to do the right thing. It's not perfect (2016), but I don't believe most Americans are deplorables. I think a lot are misguided, I think a lot are far too apathetic, but I think most people are decent, hard-working folks just doing the best they can with what they've got.
What I struggle with is that the entire future course of the world could be destroyed by a few thousand misguided, apathetic, chucklefucks in Pennsylvania.
What I struggle with is that the entire future course of the world could be destroyed by a few thousand misguided, apathetic, chucklefucks in Pennsylvania.
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If this was a popular vote situation, I'm guessing most of us would feel better.
I'm not as worried about PA as I was in 2020, for what it's worth - but I do think random low-information voters + gerrymandering in various states is going to be a critical factor here, yes. If historic non-voters and youth voters don't show up in numbers that have never been seen, I think we're in trouble.
I'm not as worried about PA as I was in 2020, for what it's worth - but I do think random low-information voters + gerrymandering in various states is going to be a critical factor here, yes. If historic non-voters and youth voters don't show up in numbers that have never been seen, I think we're in trouble.
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Well, numbers no less than in 2022 anyway. We've seen the numbers. They just need to persist... and then actually get counted correctly. I have a much higher fear of hanging chads than I have ever had... I actually never had that fear until this election, though I probably should have in 2020 and 2022.Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:27 pm If this was a popular vote situation, I'm guessing most of us would feel better.
I'm not as worried about PA as I was in 2020, for what it's worth - but I do think random low-information voters + gerrymandering in various states is going to be a critical factor here, yes. If historic non-voters and youth voters don't show up in numbers that have never been seen, I think we're in trouble.
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I feel like if you're not worried about PA, you shouldn't be that worried about the election result more generally.Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:27 pm If this was a popular vote situation, I'm guessing most of us would feel better.
I'm not as worried about PA as I was in 2020, for what it's worth - but I do think random low-information voters + gerrymandering in various states is going to be a critical factor here, yes. If historic non-voters and youth voters don't show up in numbers that have never been seen, I think we're in trouble.
The other thing is that while Democrats have generally done better in high turnout elections, I wonder if that may not be the case here given the Democrats edge in college educated voters.
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Most fascist dictatorships are supported by a misguided minority and built on the backs of decent, hardworking folk.YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:24 pm I guess I have more faith in the American people than most. I think, on average, collective "we" tend to do the right thing. It's not perfect (2016), but I don't believe most Americans are deplorables. I think a lot are misguided, I think a lot are far too apathetic, but I think most people are decent, hard-working folks just doing the best they can with what they've got.
That's exactly it. I have some spark of faith that >50% of American voters will say no to Trump 2.0. I don't have faith that the requisite number of electoral college votes will.YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:24 pm What I struggle with is that the entire future course of the world could be destroyed by a few thousand misguided, apathetic, chucklefucks in Pennsylvania.
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I don't entirely disagree.YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:24 pm I guess I have more faith in the American people than most. I think, on average, collective "we" tend to do the right thing.
The problem is that we're lazy thinkers. Because of that, it's easy to pull the wool over people's eyes and manipulate their understanding of what the 'right thing' is.
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Yeah, as LawBeef pointed out, the collective 'we' unfortunately isn't all that relevant here. I'm highly confident that the collective we (aka the popular vote) will go Harris' way. Unfortunately, the election is going to be decided by a much, much smaller group of 'they,' and we don't know how they will do.YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:24 pm I guess I have more faith in the American people than most. I think, on average, collective "we" tend to do the right thing.
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To borrow from a famous dark father, "search your feelings..."
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Musk said that?
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I'm still very bullish Harris wins this thing, and not by a single state or two. I think women, as usual, are being underestimated, and women, as usual, are going to be the ones that save our asses from certain doom. I'm also still predicting she flips NC.
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+1YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:09 pm I'm still very bullish Harris wins this thing, and not by a single state or two. I think women, as usual, are being underestimated, and women, as usual, are going to be the ones that save our asses from certain doom. I'm also still predicting she flips NC.
I think voting Americans understand what's at stake.
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Voting Americans let Trump through the goddamn door to begin with. I have way less optimism when it comes to their intelligence in light of that fact.
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