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Yojimbo wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:15 am

stessier wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:07 am So I don't understand what your point is. Are you Black? Are you pointing out how this choice is effecting you personally?

I'm listening to a lot of Black voices now - reading books, listening to interviews, podcasts - and if so, yours is a minority opinion. The leaders I'm listening to strongly support Biden, are happy with his choice for Vice President, and are continuing to work to make sure they maintain their influence as Biden builds out his team.

Feel free to share some personal stories of how this is effecting you, but just spouting old history which has no bearing on the current situation really isn't moving the conversation forward.

Gosh, you flatter me with your personal interest in me (know that I am very much attached to another, please). Do you want to check my head shape too - so that you can know more about how much my political opinion matters? I'm a US citizen (Trump might not think I'm "Natural Born") who has opinions - I hope that can be enough for you.

Jaymann wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:09 am There is a reason all the old southern Democrats are now Republicans.

The Meal wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:47 am

Yojimbo wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:47 am But Biden and the Democrat Party highlight the hypocrisy of the cancel culture. Biden gets a pass for whatever he says for the "greater good". The Democrat Party has done more to hinder the rights of African Americans than any organization save maybe the kkk - but I bet the klan never had the power that the DNC wields. Up until the 1960s the Democrat Party was openly racist and suppressing reforms. But the Democrat party gets a pass because it has changed! No one in that party today would ever be guilty of acting like a racist - except the most important Leader in the whole organization who (quotes above) says terrible things about African Americans sometimes.

I know that you all don't see this at all. Or you are in "the ends justify the means" mode at this point. With respect to you all and Mr. Takei, I have held my nose and voted for who my party told me to before - it did not help me sleep at night.

You show your tell too openly.

Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:26 pm I’ll agree it ‘sounds’ a little off to my ear, but slur seems to be pushing it IMO. More like a grammatical error.

Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:46 pm Saw that on LB’s post. Still don’t get how it implies offense, especially since we actually use the term “Democrat”. No? Nobody else thinks it’s either the most tame slur ever, or the laziest?

Zarathud wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:01 pm Rip and msduncan were more honest purveyors of inane Drudge Dogma.

Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:26 pm I still don’t get why the term is considered offensive as fireball tried to explain (in typical fireball fashion) (“it’s the same as calling a homosexual a ‘faggot’!). I mean, if you twisted it into “Dickocrat party” or something, ok. I’m sure I’ve seen ‘Democraps’ used in snarky comments sections. Obvious slur.

I’m pretty sure I’ve used the term many times before with no nasty intent, nor knowledge that it was somehow offensive to....???? Inside the beltway Democrats and literally no one else?

I’ll agree it ‘sounds’ a little off to my ear, but slur seems to be pushing it IMO. More like a grammatical error.

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1. Fox News
2. Donald J. Trump
3. Ben Shapiro
4. Dan Bongino
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8. Sean Hannity
9. Franklin Graham

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Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:26 pm I still don’t get why the term is considered offensive as fireball tried to explain (in typical fireball fashion) (“it’s the same as calling a homosexual a ‘faggot’!). I mean, if you twisted it into “Dickocrat party” or something, ok. I’m sure I’ve seen ‘Democraps’ used in snarky comments sections. Obvious slur.

I’m pretty sure I’ve used the term many times before with no nasty intent, nor knowledge that it was somehow offensive to....???? Inside the beltway Democrats and literally no one else?

I’ll agree it ‘sounds’ a little off to my ear, but slur seems to be pushing it IMO. More like a grammatical error.

Defiant wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:01 am I would say it's more along the lines of using the word "Jew", a noun, as an adjective ("Jew holiday") instead of "Jewish" ("Jewish holiday"). While people can honestly accidentally say it, it's mostly intended as a slur and I'll generally assume the person intended it as such.

That said, I wouldn't put it quite on the same level (Slimy political attacks aren't on the same level as attacks based on sexual orientation, religion, race, etc).

El Guapo wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:34 pm FWIW I don't think of it as "offensive" or a slur or anything like that. But just that the use of the term "Democrat Party" is a reliable indicator of partisan GOP hackery.

malchior wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:01 pm Yeah - Facebook is increasingly white old people derp central.

YellowKing wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:54 amIt seems "liberal" is a much more common "slur" even though it shouldn't be.

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:33 am Amazing. If only we could somehow decode that hidden message.

I am kind of curious to see how things unfold in the coming weeks with this "showdown" as the mail in voting options have likely changed everything. Not that it matters in NJ, but we can start submitting mail ballots sometime after 9/19 (depending on when USPS can get them delivered to us). That's a long time until election day and I'd think it effectively removes the October surprise and/or this year's Comey letter (whatever it will be). It looks like early voting is still all over the place and I'm not sure realistically then how much can change as we inch closer.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:56 amAlways the cynic, I don't see all those early mail is as votes in the bag as much as votes at high risk of being lost/delayed/disputed.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:56 am

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:33 am Amazing. If only we could somehow decode that hidden message.

I am kind of curious to see how things unfold in the coming weeks with this "showdown" as the mail in voting options have likely changed everything. Not that it matters in NJ, but we can start submitting mail ballots sometime after 9/19 (depending on when USPS can get them delivered to us). That's a long time until election day and I'd think it effectively removes the October surprise and/or this year's Comey letter (whatever it will be). It looks like early voting is still all over the place and I'm not sure realistically then how much can change as we inch closer.

Always the cynic, I don't see all those early mail is as votes in the bag as much as votes at high risk of being lost/delayed/disputed.

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:04 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:56 amAlways the cynic, I don't see all those early mail is as votes in the bag as much as votes at high risk of being lost/delayed/disputed.

Well, I'd hope other states have systems to track your ballot (like NJ revealed earlier this week), so that should help. While they can't publicly reveal tallies, I do hope there is frequent reporting of how many ballots have been received and processed - mainly because I know that will make Emperor Tiny Hands so very angry.

Those visiting the site will need a driver’s license number, state ID number or social security number to register to vote.

Unagi wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:10 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:56 am

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:33 am Amazing. If only we could somehow decode that hidden message.

I am kind of curious to see how things unfold in the coming weeks with this "showdown" as the mail in voting options have likely changed everything. Not that it matters in NJ, but we can start submitting mail ballots sometime after 9/19 (depending on when USPS can get them delivered to us). That's a long time until election day and I'd think it effectively removes the October surprise and/or this year's Comey letter (whatever it will be). It looks like early voting is still all over the place and I'm not sure realistically then how much can change as we inch closer.

Always the cynic, I don't see all those early mail is as votes in the bag as much as votes at high risk of being lost/delayed/disputed.

This is my concern too

I’m starting to fear this is the one year where in person voting may end up being critically important in some places.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:56 am

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:33 am Amazing. If only we could somehow decode that hidden message.

I am kind of curious to see how things unfold in the coming weeks with this "showdown" as the mail in voting options have likely changed everything. Not that it matters in NJ, but we can start submitting mail ballots sometime after 9/19 (depending on when USPS can get them delivered to us). That's a long time until election day and I'd think it effectively removes the October surprise and/or this year's Comey letter (whatever it will be). It looks like early voting is still all over the place and I'm not sure realistically then how much can change as we inch closer.

Always the cynic, I don't see all those early mail-ins as votes in the bag as much as votes at high risk of being lost/delayed/disputed.

malchior wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:29 pm The case for voting in person is that the polling place is walking distance from my house at a Catholic church's rec center. It's a big wide open space and I've never seen a line there in 10 years.