That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
Probably not would be my guess. Heads in the sand and all that.Holman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:53 amI wonder if Mueller-averse Republicans are aware that the intelligence agencies of every Western nation are focused like a laser on this administration's dealings with Putin?pr0ner wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:18 am Because of course Trump would say this.
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/ ... 9475636224
Gawd, I hope so. They (the governments of "the West") may become our last hope for redemption if we end up in a situation where Mueller is forced to fail to finish his investigation. I fear Putin's arm has grown very long indeed...Holman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:53 am I wonder if Mueller-averse Republicans are aware that the intelligence agencies of every Western nation are focused like a laser on this administration's dealings with Putin?
YellowKing wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:31 am God i wish I had an alternate universe machine that would show me the fallout if Obama had decided to cozy up to Communists.
I could swear that Trump would have reigned in Giuliani by now because he's stealing a lot of the spotlight from his boss. Trump hates to loose ratings. Makes me think Giuliani was given an order to "Get out there and dance like a monkey. Don't let up until we're out of danger."
Well In fairness, they did burn down the White House.Carpet_pissr wrote:Pretty sure they weren’t interested in stigginit to Canadian liberals...unless you had something to do with electing Obama? Then yes.GreenGoo wrote:Then you stupid mf'ers went and elected him and my jaw hit the floor.
Rip and his ilk sure stigginit to me. Well done.
First the last thing you want to do is start a discussion of reading between the lines. That is the epitome of how fake news is created.Unagi wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:18 am cause having photo ops with a 'reset button' are the same as what Trump is seemingly guilty of, if you can read between the lines of each of Trump's panicked "Phoney Russia Witch Hunt Hoax" tweets and Giuliani's frantic flailing boasts.
For Clinton, the rhetoric reflects genuine disappointment and frustration from a tumultuous term as secretary of state during which cooperation between Moscow and Washington briefly soared, only to come crashing to Earth after Putin’s reelection as president in 2012 following a four-year hiatus, according to current and former U.S. officials involved in Russian policymaking at the time. Clinton, who began her tenure by famously offering a “reset” of Russian relations, would end it by publicly blasting Putin’s government on issues including alleged vote-rigging in Russia and Putin’s support for Syria’s authoritarian president, Bashar al-Assad.
Putin would fire back with repeated attacks against her, often injecting an unusually personal tone into the growing diplomatic rift. The exchanges helped cement an adversarial view of Clinton on the Russian side that may explain, more than any other single factor, the apparent efforts by Russian operatives to influence the election by hacking email accounts of senior Clinton staff members, longtime Kremlin observers say.
I don't think they will ever see it as they were conned. They think "Great! So Russia was paying for adverting and sabotaging in all the right ways! The Great businessman! Russia is now our friend, protecting us from socialism and we are using them." and they happily endorse NO COLLUSION.Sepiche wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:36 am How deep does he need to take Putin's dick exactly before you realize you were conned into voting a Russian asset into the Presidency?
Goalposts.Rip wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:55 am I'm not defending him. I think allowing Russia back into the G-7(8) would be a huge mistake. I am just pointing out that he isn't the first moron to think they could get Russia to play nice.
I was the one who wanted to go after Russia full force after the Crimea invasion. All I saw from you guys was shrugs and comments about how we couldn't really do much.
If we couldn't do much about them invading and annexing territories I fail to see what we could do to properly punish them for what they are doing now.
In fact I would submit that much of what they did as far as election interference was a direct result of largely getting a pass for what should have been considered an act of war.
Not surprisingly we still aren't really doing anything that causes them the slightest bit of fear. Just a lot of big talk with nothing to back it up.
Can't play that game today. I think I got burnt out playing it with the other side yesterday.
Pardon him for what, exactly?
Toddler, new toy, etc.President Donald Trump said Friday he was considering granting a posthumous pardon for Muhammad Ali — prompting a lawyer for his estate and family to say thanks, but no thanks: The boxing great had his criminal conviction overturned by the Supreme Court nearly 50 years ago.
"We appreciate President Trump's sentiment, but a pardon is unnecessary. The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the conviction of Muhammad Ali in a unanimous decision in 1971," Ron Tweel, who has represented Ali and his family since 1986, told NBC News. "There is no conviction from which a pardon is needed."
Except that Muhammad Ali doesn't have anything to pardon. His conviction was overturned by the Supreme Court.Daveman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:58 am I think he likes pardoning people because it's the most king-like activity he can do as president. People come asking for his help, he waves his hand and it happens... so long as it helps deliver a message or involves photo ops with celebrities.
So obviously the solution is the elect a Russian sympathizer to try to undermine the western alliance and roll back the sanctions we put in place after they annexed Crimea? Rip that doesn't even make any sense and you know your grasping at straws. Pretend it's Obama's fault all you want, but Obama isn't the one who was aided by Russia every step of his election, and Obama isn't the one in office now trying to *reward* Russia for annexing Crimea.Rip wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:55 am I was the one who wanted to go after Russia full force after the Crimea invasion. All I saw from you guys was shrugs and comments about how we couldn't really do much.
If we couldn't do much about them invading and annexing territories I fail to see what we could do to properly punish them for what they are doing now.
In fact I would submit that much of what they did as far as election interference was a direct result of largely getting a pass for what should have been considered an act of war.
Not surprisingly we still aren't really doing anything that causes them the slightest bit of fear. Just a lot of big talk with nothing to back it up.
Plus let's just pause over the whole idea.ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:19 pmExcept that Muhammad Ali doesn't have anything to pardon. His conviction was overturned by the Supreme Court.Daveman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:58 am I think he likes pardoning people because it's the most king-like activity he can do as president. People come asking for his help, he waves his hand and it happens... so long as it helps deliver a message or involves photo ops with celebrities.
Didn’t you take your ball and go home?Rip wrote:First the last thing you want to do is start a discussion of reading between the lines. That is the epitome of how fake news is created.Unagi wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:18 am cause having photo ops with a 'reset button' are the same as what Trump is seemingly guilty of, if you can read between the lines of each of Trump's panicked "Phoney Russia Witch Hunt Hoax" tweets and Giuliani's frantic flailing boasts.
Second, it was hardly just a photo op.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/th ... fact-sheet
Even HRC realized it was blowing up in their faces.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 0af3cc88b9
For Clinton, the rhetoric reflects genuine disappointment and frustration from a tumultuous term as secretary of state during which cooperation between Moscow and Washington briefly soared, only to come crashing to Earth after Putin’s reelection as president in 2012 following a four-year hiatus, according to current and former U.S. officials involved in Russian policymaking at the time. Clinton, who began her tenure by famously offering a “reset” of Russian relations, would end it by publicly blasting Putin’s government on issues including alleged vote-rigging in Russia and Putin’s support for Syria’s authoritarian president, Bashar al-Assad.Putin would fire back with repeated attacks against her, often injecting an unusually personal tone into the growing diplomatic rift. The exchanges helped cement an adversarial view of Clinton on the Russian side that may explain, more than any other single factor, the apparent efforts by Russian operatives to influence the election by hacking email accounts of senior Clinton staff members, longtime Kremlin observers say.
Trump was speaking with reporters in front of the White House when he talked about his new plan to help determine who should be pardoned.
"What I'm thinking to do, you have a lot of people in the NFL in particular ... they're not proud enough to stand for our national anthem ..."
"I'm gonna ask all of those people to recommend to me ... people that they think were unfairly treated by the justice system and I'm gonna ask them to recommend to me, people that were unfairly treated, friends of theirs or people that they know about and im gonna take a look at those applications."
"And if I find and my committee finds that they were unfairly treated, then we will pardon them or at least let them out."
Good lord. "You guys are a bunch of criminals, right? You must know people looking for pardons."Moliere wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:19 pm DONALD TRUMP To NFL Players ...TELL ME WHO I SHOULD PARDON!
Trump was speaking with reporters in front of the White House when he talked about his new plan to help determine who should be pardoned.
"What I'm thinking to do, you have a lot of people in the NFL in particular ... they're not proud enough to stand for our national anthem ..."
"I'm gonna ask all of those people to recommend to me ... people that they think were unfairly treated by the justice system and I'm gonna ask them to recommend to me, people that were unfairly treated, friends of theirs or people that they know about and im gonna take a look at those applications."
"And if I find and my committee finds that they were unfairly treated, then we will pardon them or at least let them out."
There is a pardon committee in the executive branch, which traditionally handles pardon requests. Trump has largely done whatever he wanted and ignored the committee, but it exists. It's not really "his" committee, though.
I got the feeling he wasn’t referring to the pardon committee. Pretty sure he is unaware it exists.El Guapo wrote:There is a pardon committee in the executive branch, which traditionally handles pardon requests. Trump has largely done whatever he wanted and ignored the committee, but it exists. It's not really "his" committee, though.
Did the TMZ go straight to Onion? I...Moliere wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:19 pm DONALD TRUMP To NFL Players ...TELL ME WHO I SHOULD PARDON!
Trump was speaking with reporters in front of the White House when he talked about his new plan to help determine who should be pardoned.
"What I'm thinking to do, you have a lot of people in the NFL in particular ... they're not proud enough to stand for our national anthem ..."
"I'm gonna ask all of those people to recommend to me ... people that they think were unfairly treated by the justice system and I'm gonna ask them to recommend to me, people that were unfairly treated, friends of theirs or people that they know about and im gonna take a look at those applications."
"And if I find and my committee finds that they were unfairly treated, then we will pardon them or at least let them out."
He has a wife you know?hepcat wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:31 pm I wanna see the NFL players act like the prisoners in Life of Brian giving the guards made up names.
What's so funny about Biggus Dickus?
I'm a terrible person for laughing at that part.
Trump lobbed what amounted to a diplomatic stink bomb as he left the White House for the annual two-day G-7 summit, where he arrived late and planned to leave early.
:emoticon of index finger pointing up, mouth agape, but no words coming out:“Now, I love our country. I have been Russia’s worst nightmare,”
Actually an election being the only way to stop him is a great thing. It put the power on the people hands (and the Russian hackers).Octavious wrote:Lets see what kind of shit storm this idiot creates today at the summit. He already sent me into a rage with the whole Russia thing. How much more transparent does he need to be before something is done about him? I'm guessing nothing will stop this madness except for an election.