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Blackhawk wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:56 pm

GreenGoo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:10 pm I think it's that Americans hate Americans.

This is the truth. We're too large of a nation - we have such diverse cultures from one place to another that we're often not compatible with ourselves. It's not easy to address, though, as the past 75 years has seen those regions overlapping and mixing such that it isn't so much 'regions' (with the exception of a few) as it is urban vs rural. You can't divide all of the large cities into one nation, and all of the rest into another.

As to awareness, it's not about awareness of what he's doing, it's an understanding of what it actually means. For example: Tariffs. They see them as making America stronger and bringing back jobs. What they mean is increased prices for us and a weaker economy. "They" are aware of the tariffs. They're about to understand what the mean.

RunningMn9 wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:54 pm

No one cares.

YellowKing wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:54 pm In the end, it all comes down to personal finances. That's it. Literally nothing else matters. They can take all the polls in the world, the pundits can forecast everything, we can trot out 13 keys to the presidency, we can write entire books on it. And I think in the end it comes down to "personal finance = good continue else change path."

RunningMn9 wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:41 pm Well yeah, but you can’t help me.

Smoove_B wrote:The so-called "economic anxiety" that motivates voters sure is filled with lots of people that also hate LGBTQ+ folks, minorities and immigrants.

YellowKing wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 8:09 pm

Smoove_B wrote:The so-called "economic anxiety" that motivates voters sure is filled with lots of people that also hate LGBTQ+ folks, minorities and immigrants.

For sure. But in the end, that's not why Trump is in office. He's in office because voters were dissatisfied with the economy.

Blackhawk wrote:And because people are too stupid to realize that the President can influence the economy, but doesn't command it.

Rumpy wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:26 pm And if they thought the economy was bad before he took Office, they're in for one heck of a rude awakening when the economy starts tanking and there's nobody to blame but himself. He can't pin this on Biden.

Rumpy wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:26 pm And if they thought the economy was bad before he took Office, they're in for one heck of a rude awakening when the economy starts tanking and there's nobody to blame but himself. He can't pin this on Biden.

Rumpy wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:26 pm He can't pin this on Biden.

Skinypupy wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:12 pm

Rumpy wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:26 pm He can't pin this on Biden.

Lol, why not? Americans are profoundly stupid and tribal.

He wouldn’t really even have to try very hard, just say “it’s Biden’s fault” and half the voting populace will believe him without question.

Blackhawk wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:04 pm

Rumpy wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:26 pm And if they thought the economy was bad before he took Office, they're in for one heck of a rude awakening when the economy starts tanking and there's nobody to blame but himself. He can't pin this on Biden.

That's what I was talking about when I said that people will have to learn what his actions mean before they start to wake up. All they have to go on now is what he claims. Soon they will understand what the actual impacts are of what he's doing.

In other words, they got their wish. Now they get to regret how the genie interpreted it.