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This is what doctors and nurses are risking their lives for right now.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1241837565042360320
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The orange moron is speaking. No idea what as I turn him off when I see him.

As for the video its shame we dont have perfect face identity software and cameras so those folk could be refused health care.
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The number being thrown around now for the stimulus bill is $4 Trillion. That sounds absurdly high. I wonder if they are lumping in Fed activity which isn't really spending in that number.
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malchior wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:00 pm The number being thrown around now for the stimulus bill is $4 Trillion. That sounds absurdly high. I wonder if they are lumping in Fed activity which isn't really spending in that number.
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These guys are actually arguing that industry is self-organizing on its own to ramp up production to build the right products to deal with the supply problems states are seeing without the Defense Production Act. This is absolutely impossible. The invisible hand has a crystal ball that knows demand across all 50 states. These lying fucks. Luckily Honeywell will be getting masks out to the market in...checks notes...30 days. Yeah that seems fast enough. Mark this one down. It'll be a moment they'll regret...in maybe 2 weeks.
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Did I just hear Pence say the CDC is going to encourage returning to work if infected people wear a mask?!? Pilot that in Trump's office please. Also a pure asshole moment.

(paraphrasing)

Trump: Romney is in isolation?

Reporter: Yes.

Trump: Gee...that's too bad.

Reporter: Was that sarcastic (want to comment)?

Trump: Not at all.

How is everyone not yelling at these assholes!?!

Edit: Trump is confirming this insane return workers to the office policy. You know with the masks that aren't available even to our healthcare workers. Let's start praying. It's about all we got. Good luck fellow Americans.

I'm boiling. So basically these human piles of shit essential message to the workers are. Get back to work. We need you working. Even if it gets folks killed. If you are rich, we will send you dollars to make sure your businesses don't fail. Also please don't hesitate to work them until they are literally all sick and dead. To the Governors get your shits together. Everything is not my fault. I don't know how else to parse out today's events other to say our leadership is not only clueless, they are immoral, and evil. They won't take any steps to protect us.
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Robert Reich posted this about an hour ago:
The proposal gives Mnuchin (and Trump) complete discretion to choose which industries and companies will receive $200 billion to $500 billion, and then hide the identity of the bailout recipients for six months.

There's no requirement that companies maintain payroll or benefits, no requirements to reduce executive pay, very limited restrictions on stock buybacks (that Mnuchin can waive), no oversight, no safety provisions to protect frontline workers, and no paid sick leave.

And it provides nothing for the tens of millions of American workers who have or will soon lose their jobs -- no expansion of unemployment insurance, no health insurance, no direct cash payments.

And nothing for hospitals and hospital staffs that are, or will soon be, inundated.
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Edit: Trump is confirming this insane return workers to the office policy.
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Smoove_B wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:47 pm
Edit: Trump is confirming this insane return workers to the office policy.
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"Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus outbreak"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN21910S

Because of course they did.
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I heard he complained he was getting the credit and attention he deserved. If only someone could photoshop Rodney Dangerfield's head onto Trumps body at the press briefing and have it read I get no respect..no respect I tell ya.

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Kraken wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:46 pm Robert Reich posted this about an hour ago:
The proposal gives Mnuchin (and Trump) complete discretion to choose which industries and companies will receive $200 billion to $500 billion, and then hide the identity of the bailout recipients for six months.

There's no requirement that companies maintain payroll or benefits, no requirements to reduce executive pay, very limited restrictions on stock buybacks (that Mnuchin can waive), no oversight, no safety provisions to protect frontline workers, and no paid sick leave.

And it provides nothing for the tens of millions of American workers who have or will soon lose their jobs -- no expansion of unemployment insurance, no health insurance, no direct cash payments.

And nothing for hospitals and hospital staffs that are, or will soon be, inundated.
Maybe I’m missing something. If there’s nothing going to individuals, unemployment insurance, benefits, etc, then it doesn’t seem to jive with the other numbers that have been thrown around (I.e. $1-4 trillion).

Not that I doubt for a second that they would promote evil fuckery like this plan, but I’m going to keep at least a little optimism until it’s confirmed elsewhere.
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In any event, that proposal was a non-starter.
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Trumps broke he needs cash now. He cant simply call JG Wentworth.
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It isn't that nothing goes to individuals. There was some individual support along some of the lines we heard thrown around but the public generally hasn't seen the language yet ($1200 for people up to $75K...phased out to $90K or so). However, a laundry list of entities that need support were omitted and the biggest chunk was weighted at a Mnuchin run slush fund for corporations. It was a quick stick up. And in a rare McConnell blew it moment he got outmaneuvered for once. It was only a procedural vote...so yay I guess. It still didn't get done and shit is breaking loose. I imagine the market isn't looking good for tomorrow.
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McConnell is shedding crocodile tears right now. Fuck this guy. He is blaming Pelosi for this. Believe it or not he made a rare mistake and got caught with his hand in the jar. The Democrats now have to work hard to keep the initiative but they have it.
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Everyone should start considering removing all their money from the banks. Although I only have $50 - $80 after bills each month Im sure taking it out.
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Daehawk wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:09 pm Everyone should start considering removing all their money from the banks. Although I only have $50 - $80 after bills each month Im sure taking it out.
No one should. If the banks fall it is Mad Max time anyway.
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Daehawk wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:09 pm Everyone should start considering removing all their money from the banks. Although I only have $50 - $80 after bills each month Im sure taking it out.
Banks are not at risk. Equities and other investments may be. But the last thing we need now is a run on the banks.
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The doomsday prophet morons are crawling out from their rocks again.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/world/do ... index.html
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Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) blasted reports that Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) attended the Senate gym and swam in the pool while awaiting his COVID-19 test results, which later came back positive.
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Daehawk wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:28 pm The doomsday prophet morons are crawling out from their rocks again.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/world/do ... index.html
Are they telling us to take our money out from the banks?
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White supremacists encouraging their members to spread coronavirus to cops, Jews, FBI says
The FBI alert, which went out on Thursday, told local police agencies that extremists want their followers to try to use spray bottles to spread bodily fluids to cops on the street. The extremists are also directing followers to spread the disease to Jews by going "any place they may be congregated, to include markets, political offices, businesses and places of worship."
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Jackhole steals 29 coronavirus test kits.
A man disguised as a delivery driver stole 29 unused coronavirus test kits on Friday night in Arizona, police say.
Hope they catch him and chain him inside a corona treatment wing and force him to work 10 years.

As for the bank dont bother and end up like the depression. But dont worry it will be fine. Maybe confederate money will help you. The stock market is crashing and going to be totally dead soon at this rate.
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Defiant wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:39 pm White supremacists encouraging their members to spread coronavirus to cops, Jews, FBI says
The FBI alert, which went out on Thursday, told local police agencies that extremists want their followers to try to use spray bottles to spread bodily fluids to cops on the street. The extremists are also directing followers to spread the disease to Jews by going "any place they may be congregated, to include markets, political offices, businesses and places of worship."
Wouldn't totally surprise me but it seems like a sure way to get beat up, shot, or arrested. Wouldn't put it past 4chan or the like creating a fake campaign.
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Daehawk wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:09 pm Everyone should start considering removing all their money from the banks. Although I only have $50 - $80 after bills each month Im sure taking it out.
Yeah...no.
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Rand Paul tested positive. I can’t think of anything nice to say about him, so I’ll just leave it at that.
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Daehawk wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:09 pm Everyone should start considering removing all their money from the banks. Although I only have $50 - $80 after bills each month Im sure taking it out.
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It's not very important but the chart has a couple of things wrong with regards to S. Korea. They are providing economic assistance to people who have been quarantined (positive or suspected positive). They have also closed schools. Technically they didn't have to because school here were on break around Lunar New Yes and the new school year would have started after it. They haven't allowed them to open.

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Not enough face masks? Never fear! Jared is on the case! Also there is a lot of magical thinking about the shortage of medical supplies.

https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/1241908192470167553
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Skinypupy wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:44 pm
Kraken wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:46 pm Robert Reich posted this about an hour ago:
The proposal gives Mnuchin (and Trump) complete discretion to choose which industries and companies will receive $200 billion to $500 billion, and then hide the identity of the bailout recipients for six months.

There's no requirement that companies maintain payroll or benefits, no requirements to reduce executive pay, very limited restrictions on stock buybacks (that Mnuchin can waive), no oversight, no safety provisions to protect frontline workers, and no paid sick leave.

And it provides nothing for the tens of millions of American workers who have or will soon lose their jobs -- no expansion of unemployment insurance, no health insurance, no direct cash payments.

And nothing for hospitals and hospital staffs that are, or will soon be, inundated.
Maybe I’m missing something. If there’s nothing going to individuals, unemployment insurance, benefits, etc, then it doesn’t seem to jive with the other numbers that have been thrown around (I.e. $1-4 trillion).

Not that I doubt for a second that they would promote evil fuckery like this plan, but I’m going to keep at least a little optimism until it’s confirmed elsewhere.
I wondered about the other $500B, too. Maybe it was for small businesses and/or perks for workers other than those listed? Guess it doesn't matter now. If the GOP wants more caviar for its patrons, they're going to have to choke up some gruel for the masses this time.
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hepcat wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:10 pm Rand Paul tested positive. I can’t think of anything nice to say about him, so I’ll just leave it at that.
gilraen wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:10 pm
Daehawk wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:09 pm Everyone should start considering removing all their money from the banks. Although I only have $50 - $80 after bills each month Im sure taking it out.
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It really looks like McConnell has badly miscalculated. Members of his own caucus are moving away from this. Despite that he is digging in and wants a revote 15 minutes after the market opens. He's lost his mind. Does he think huge losses are going to work at this point? I sort of hope this marks the end of his villainous reign but that is too much to hope for.

https://twitter.com/AJentleson/status/1 ... 5904616448
Now McConnell’s own conference is asking him to stand down and move towards Senate Democrats. Hard to know what he was thinking in calling this vote tonight.
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BTW true to McConnell's pure hypocrite stylings he actually said this earlier tonight.

https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/statu ... 2315992070
"Our national cannot afford a game of chicken," McConnell said, hoping Democrats have a "change of heart."
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He emphasizes it will be 15 minutes AFTER markets open

Markets are probably going to open limit down. 15 min freeze means they will be frozen at 9:45.
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They are desperate. All the GOP Senators are blasting out the same lame message about the Dems putting party over country...they really fucked this one up. Hopefully this blows up in their faces.
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In other news Fauci is in full IDGAF mode.
Q: How are you managing to not get fired?

A: Well, that's pretty interesting because to his [President Trump’s] credit, even though we disagree on some things, he listens. He goes his own way. He has his own style. But on substantive issues, he does listen to what I say.

Q: You’ve been in press conferences where things are happening that you disagree with, is that fair to say?

A: Well, I don't disagree in the substance. It is expressed in a way that I would not express it, because it could lead to some misunderstanding about what the facts are about a given subject.

Q. You stood nearby while President Trump was in the Rose Garden shaking hands with people. You're a doctor. You must have had a reaction like, Sir, please don't do that.

A: Yes, I say that to the task force. I say that to the staff. We should not be doing that. Not only that--we should be physically separating a bit more on those press conferences. To his credit, the Vice President [Mike Pence] is really pushing for physical separation of the task force [during meetings]. He keeps people out of the room--as soon as the room gets like more than 10 people or so, it’s ‘Out, everybody else out, go to a different room.’ So with regard to the task force, the Vice President is really a bear in making sure that we don't crowd 30 people into the Situation Room, which is always crowded. So he's definitely adhering to that. The situation on stage [for the press briefings] is a bit more problematic. I keep saying, is there any way we can get a virtual press conference. Thus far, no. But when you're dealing with the White House, sometimes you have to say things 1,2,3,4 times, and then it happens. So I'm going to keep pushing.

Q: You're standing there saying nobody should gather with more than 10 people and there are almost 10 people with you on the stage. And there are certainly more than 10 journalists in the audience.

A: I know that. I’m trying my best. I cannot do the impossible.

Q: What about the travel restrictions? President Trump keeps saying that the travel ban for China, which began 2 February, had a big impact [on slowing the spread of the virus to the United States] and that he wishes China would have told us three to four months earlier and that they were “very secretive.” [China did not immediately reveal the discovery of a new coronavirus in late December, but by 10 January, Chinese researchers made the sequence of the virus public.] It just doesn't comport with facts.

A: I know, but what do you want me to do? I mean, seriously Jon, let’s get real, what do you want me to do?

Q: Most everyone thinks that you’re doing a remarkable job, but you're standing there as the representative of truth and facts but things are being said that aren't true and aren't factual.

A: The way it happened is that after he made that statement [suggesting China could have revealed the discovery of a new coronavirus three to four months earlier], I told the appropriate people, it doesn't comport, because two or three months earlier would have been September. The next time they sit down with him and talk about what he’s going to say, they will say, by the way, Mr. President, be careful about this and don't say that. But I can't jump in front of the microphone and push him down. OK, he said it. Let's try and get it corrected for the next time.

Q: You have not said China virus. [Trump frequently calls the cause of the spreading illness, known as coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) a “China virus” or a “Chinese virus.”]

A: Ever.

Q. And you never will, will you?

A: No.

Q: I'm curious about some things that aren't happening on a national scale. One is, why are shelter in place orders happening state by state? Why are we doing this sequentially? Is that a mistake?

A: No, I don't think we could say it's a mistake or not a mistake. There is a discussion and a delicate balance about what’s the overall impact of shutting everything down completely for an indefinite period of time. So there's a compromise. If you knock down the economy completely and disrupt infrastructure, you may be causing health issues, unintended consequences, for people who need to be able to get to places and can't. You do the best you can. I've emphasized very emphatically at every press conference, that everybody in the country, at a minimum, should be following the fundamental guidelines. Elderly, stay out of society in self isolation. Don't go to work if you don't have to. Yada yada yada. No bars, no restaurants, no nothing. Only essential services. When you get a place like New York or Washington or California, you have got to ratchet it up. But it is felt--and it isn't me only speaking, it’s a bunch of people who make the decisions—that if you lock down everything now, you're going to crash the whole society. So you do what you can do, as best as you can. Do as much physical separation as you can and ratchet it up at the places you know are at highest risk.

Q: But I heard a guy say, if you think you're doing too much, you're probably doing the right amount.

A: That’s me.

Q: I know it's you. The “15 Days to Slow the Spread” campaign doesn't mention religious gatherings. I know Pence mentioned them yesterday. But why aren’t they on the 15 Days recommendations? All these other places are mentioned.

A: It was implied in no crowds of more than 10 people. But you’re right, crowds in church are important and every time I get a chance to say it, I mention it. I can't really criticize them strongly for that at all. When you say less than 10, it makes common sense that it involves the church. I say it publicly and even the vice president has said it publicly.

Q: What happens before each press conference? What do you do as a group?

A: We're in the task force. We sit down for an hour and a half, go over all the issues on the agenda. And then we proceed from there to an ante room right in front of the Oval Office to talk about what are going to be the messages, what are the kind of things we're going to want to emphasize? Then we go in to see the president, we present [our consensus] to him and somebody writes a speech. Then he gets up and ad libs on his speech. And then we're up there to try and answer questions.
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"Our national cannot afford a game of chicken,"
National what? Past time? Anthem? Potato?
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Re: Corona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

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This seems fine.

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