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Because he and I being on the same team would have be bad. One of us would get lynched and the entire town would have turned on the other. Plus, I have killed him first night everytime I was a bad guy.Austin wrote:I do enjoy the more complicated rulesets. I liked the one with Smutly and Genghis and I doing the, "I'm the priest/mage" dance. I don't recall... why didn't we convert Chaos on night 1?
I'm a horrible conversion target. I actually gave Newcastle and whoever the other one was a big, wtf are you doing converting me, in Chaos' game. At least when Tru1cy might be the mage. Ralph Wiggum, Tru1cy and others really like to scan me on night 1. I'm hoping that dies out at some point before I'm bad again though.Scoop20906 wrote:I'm thinking out loud here and would love some feedback.
Since everyone is assuming that we have three vamps now, wouldn't the best first day strategy be to try to figure out who the vamps would convert?
If I were a vamp, who would I want on my side? One of the vets, right? Also, someone that is good at convincing others.
To me, that makes the following conversion suspects:
Remus West
Austin
Grundbegriff
Comments?
I dunno, prolly better to get a single here and try to steal third. then Bugsy can try for a bunt and and we got bases loaded with Lou up at bat.....I'm thinking out loud here and would love some feedback.
Since everyone is assuming that we have three vamps now, wouldn't the best first day strategy be to try to figure out who the vamps would convert?
If I were a vamp, who would I want on my side? One of the vets, right? Also, someone that is good at convincing others.
To me, that makes the following conversion suspects:
Who's on first?Kraegor wrote:I dunno, prolly better to get a single here and try to steal third. then Bugsy can try for a bunt and and we got bases loaded with Lou up at bat.....I'm thinking out loud here and would love some feedback.
Since everyone is assuming that we have three vamps now, wouldn't the best first day strategy be to try to figure out who the vamps would convert?
If I were a vamp, who would I want on my side? One of the vets, right? Also, someone that is good at convincing others.
To me, that makes the following conversion suspects:
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Guess all ya want. The guessing is grounded on what? You do not know the original two. How ya gonna guess who they may have chosen?
You can guess on the third. which is a SINGLE moving target.
Or you can guess on the TWO, which are TWO static targets.
Ok, good points. So, then its acceptable to believe they have gone with the quiet ones....Austin wrote:I'm a horrible conversion target. I actually gave Newcastle and whoever the other one was a big, wtf are you doing converting me, in Chaos' game. At least when Tru1cy might be the mage. Ralph Wiggum, Tru1cy and others really like to scan me on night 1. I'm hoping that dies out at some point before I'm bad again though.Scoop20906 wrote:I'm thinking out loud here and would love some feedback.
Since everyone is assuming that we have three vamps now, wouldn't the best first day strategy be to try to figure out who the vamps would convert?
If I were a vamp, who would I want on my side? One of the vets, right? Also, someone that is good at convincing others.
To me, that makes the following conversion suspects:
Remus West
Austin
Grundbegriff
Comments?
You mean, because nobody would ever suspect anyone on that list?Scoop20906 wrote:If I were a vamp, who would I want on my side? One of the vets, right? Also, someone that is good at convincing others.
To me, that makes the following conversion suspects:
Remus West
Austin
Grundbegriff
Comments?
just as it is acceptable to believe they chose a high profile target.scoop wrote: So, then its acceptable to believe they have gone with the quiet ones....
Yes and No. As has been mentioned, it depends upon who the originals were. Lets say you and Austin were already Vamps, then why would you add myself or Grundbegriff? You would already have the veteran you were looking for to lead you. I would think you want to convert someone you expect to live for a while (which is why, despite the vote for him I doubt pr0ner would be the convert as folks eventually decide his silence means he is evil). I would convert someone that I thought had a chance at getting through to the end of the game.Scoop20906 wrote:I'm thinking out loud here and would love some feedback.
Since everyone is assuming that we have three vamps now, wouldn't the best first day strategy be to try to figure out who the vamps would convert?
If I were a vamp, who would I want on my side? One of the vets, right? Also, someone that is good at convincing others.
To me, that makes the following conversion suspects:
Remus West
Austin
Grundbegriff
Comments?
Not saying it's the *best* play either. It's high risk.Grundbegriff wrote:triggercut wrote:might not be the worst play in the world for the Priest to come out right now and let us know.
Austin wrote:I'm a horrible conversion target. I actually gave Newcastle and whoever the other one was a big, wtf are you doing converting me, in Chaos' game. At least when Tru1cy might be the mage. Ralph Wiggum, Tru1cy and others really like to scan me on night 1. I'm hoping that dies out at some point before I'm bad again though.Scoop20906 wrote:I'm thinking out loud here and would love some feedback.
Since everyone is assuming that we have three vamps now, wouldn't the best first day strategy be to try to figure out who the vamps would convert?
If I were a vamp, who would I want on my side? One of the vets, right? Also, someone that is good at convincing others.
To me, that makes the following conversion suspects:
Remus West
Austin
Grundbegriff
Comments?
Austin, imo you would make an excellent conversion first night for the exact reason you named. Since the Mage gets his answer BEFORE the conversion you would show as human and thus be trusted and cleared. That is the biggest problem for the Mage on the night of conversion since he can not fully trust his target if they came up clean.tru1cy wrote:Turn order:
Mage scan or pm or transfer power
Priest protects
Vampire kill/make a childer
As was mentioned earlier, the very fact we are poor choices might make us good choices. I do know however that I have been a night 1 scan a lot of the recent games.Scoop20906 wrote:Ok, good points. So, then its acceptable to believe they have gone with the quiet ones....Austin wrote:I'm a horrible conversion target. I actually gave Newcastle and whoever the other one was a big, wtf are you doing converting me, in Chaos' game. At least when Tru1cy might be the mage. Ralph Wiggum, Tru1cy and others really like to scan me on night 1. I'm hoping that dies out at some point before I'm bad again though.Scoop20906 wrote:I'm thinking out loud here and would love some feedback.
Since everyone is assuming that we have three vamps now, wouldn't the best first day strategy be to try to figure out who the vamps would convert?
If I were a vamp, who would I want on my side? One of the vets, right? Also, someone that is good at convincing others.
To me, that makes the following conversion suspects:
Remus West
Austin
Grundbegriff
Comments?
Thanks for the feedback.
So, following that logic, then the mage should have PMed on the first night to reveal himself and in hopes of building trust with one villager?Remus West wrote:Austin, imo you would make an excellent conversion first night for the exact reason you named. Since the Mage gets his answer BEFORE the conversion you would show as human and thus be trusted and cleared. That is the biggest problem for the Mage on the night of conversion since he can not fully trust his target if they came up clean.
just as acceptable to think that they chose you and you're now throwing up this big "who would they choose" shield for protection.Scoop20906 wrote:So, then its acceptable to believe they have gone with the quiet ones....
HA, Lassr still doesn't trust me.Lassr wrote:just as acceptable to think that they chose you and you're now throwing up this big "who would they choose" shield for protection.Scoop20906 wrote:So, then its acceptable to believe they have gone with the quiet ones....
I trust no one at the moment.Scoop20906 wrote:HA, Lassr still doesn't trust me.Lassr wrote:just as acceptable to think that they chose you and you're now throwing up this big "who would they choose" shield for protection.Scoop20906 wrote:So, then its acceptable to believe they have gone with the quiet ones....
Why should he? I don't trust you either fwiw. I can see you playing the "I'm a new guy card" as a vampire. I could see you being recruited to do that.Scoop20906 wrote:HA, Lassr still doesn't trust me.Lassr wrote:just as acceptable to think that they chose you and you're now throwing up this big "who would they choose" shield for protection.Scoop20906 wrote:So, then its acceptable to believe they have gone with the quiet ones....
Me neither. I'm just trying to figure out a strategy to make my first vote for other than the eney meney miney moe method I used the last two games. Might have to go with eney meney miney moe tho...Lassr wrote:I trust no one at the moment.Scoop20906 wrote:HA, Lassr still doesn't trust me.Lassr wrote:just as acceptable to think that they chose you and you're now throwing up this big "who would they choose" shield for protection.Scoop20906 wrote:So, then its acceptable to believe they have gone with the quiet ones....
Good point. I guess I was just flashbacking to the last game when Lassr (who turned out to be a wolf) was constantly questioning my wolfishness. At the time, I didn't know if he was evil or not.Grundbegriff wrote:That's an odd thing to say.Scoop20906 wrote:HA, Lassr still doesn't trust me.
Why would Lassr especially doubt you (given that he knew that he was evil in the previous game), and why would Lassr especially trust you?
In fact, why would Lassr have an opinion about you at all, Fangthane?
...and I was wondering if I was alone in noticing that.Grundbegriff wrote:That's an odd thing to say.Scoop20906 wrote:HA, Lassr still doesn't trust me.
Why would Lassr especially doubt you (given that he knew that he was evil in the previous game), and why would Lassr especially trust you?
In fact, why would Lassr have an opinion about you at all, Fangthane?
Yeah, but now you know that he was a wolf, and even then, you knew that you were not.Scoop20906 wrote:Good point. I guess I was just flashbacking to the last game when Lassr (who turned out to be a wolf) was constantly questioning my wolfishness. At the time, I didn't know if he was evil or not.
Not a fret. Just laughing.Grundbegriff wrote:Yeah, but now you know that he was a wolf, and even then, you knew that you were not.Scoop20906 wrote:Good point. I guess I was just flashbacking to the last game when Lassr (who turned out to be a wolf) was constantly questioning my wolfishness. At the time, I didn't know if he was evil or not.
Why would you fret that he doesn't trust you?
Your grasp of the obvious is a credit to your species.Chaosraven wrote: Incredibly low odds: vamps chose someone who was not the priest, but was protected by the priest
Low odds: vamps chose priest who protected himself
Low odds: vamps converted the mage (equal odds to everyone else, but 1 in 10 nonvamps is Mage)
Favorable odds: vamps converted someone
12 Players, most probable makeup is 3 vamps, 1 Mage, 1 Priest, 7 Humans.
Most probable outcome: Mage knows 1 player as Human / Vamp, low odds conversion target. Priest protected self now vulnerable night 2. Vamps converted.
I'd hardly call triggercut a low-profile target. His way of playing makes him like the folks in your first group.High profile targets for Night 1 Scan by Mage: Austin, Grundbegriff, Remus West.
Low Profile targets for Conversion: Unagi, Genghis, pr0ner, Scoop, triggercut, newcastle
holding grudges for too long are unhealthy...Austin wrote:Why should he? I don't trust you either fwiw. I can see you playing the "I'm a new guy card" as a vampire. I could see you being recruited to do that.Scoop20906 wrote:HA, Lassr still doesn't trust me.Lassr wrote:just as acceptable to think that they chose you and you're now throwing up this big "who would they choose" shield for protection.Scoop20906 wrote:So, then its acceptable to believe they have gone with the quiet ones....
Lassr hasn't voted for me yet which is odd but perhaps he enjoyed our spoon, or perhaps he has forgiven me AND GRUND for that other game.
(to be clear, Grund is not bolded.)
Mr. Obvious has spoken! All shall listen!Chaosraven wrote:Low odds: vamps chose priest who protected himself
Incredibly low odds: vamps chose someone who was not the priest, but was protected by the priest
Favorable odds: vamps converted someone
Low odds: vamps converted the mage (equal odds to everyone else, but 1 in 10 nonvamps is Mage)
12 Players, most probable makeup is 3 vamps, 1 Mage, 1 Priest, 7 Humans.
Most probable outcome: Mage knows 1 player as Human / Vamp, low odds conversion target. Priest protected self now vulnerable night 2. Vamps converted.
High profile targets for Night 1 Scan by Mage: Austin, Grundbegriff, Remus West.
Low Profile targets for Conversion: Unagi, Genghis, pr0ner, Scoop, triggercut, newcastle
