Octopus Overlords

Remus West wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:

Arcanis wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:

Brendan wrote:Eh - half the first round deaths in these games are arbitrary or chosen simply for entertainment value.

And yet the other half are as simple as a Remus West/Chaosraven rivalry... still entertaining, but usually just to us.

On the other hand if one was WK the other would be corrupted.

Yep, Remus is the Witchking and I used to be Aragorn, you guys are f'ed.

Thought I told you to claim Gandalf so we could smoke him out. Sheesh. the simplest of plans ruined by poor help.

Remus West wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:

Arcanis wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:

Brendan wrote:Eh - half the first round deaths in these games are arbitrary or chosen simply for entertainment value.

And yet the other half are as simple as a Remus West/Chaosraven rivalry... still entertaining, but usually just to us.

On the other hand if one was WK the other would be corrupted.

Yep, Remus is the Witchking and I used to be Aragorn, you guys are f'ed.

Thought I told you to claim Gandalf so we could smoke him out. Sheesh. the simplest of plans ruined by poor help.

Chaosraven wrote:LL - What happens if URUKHAI targets Boromir?

Chaosraven wrote:
QUESTION:

If playerX is proven as Hobbit, given the Ring on Final Journey and is Captured on Final Journey, do servants win Chapter Seven or are we given the chance to Hunt Some Orc to free him?

stessier wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:

stessier wrote:

Remus West wrote:We would need to free them and they would then need to pass the thing to keep it away from the Servants.

Yep, except the Ring can only be passed before the end of the day and Hunting Orc (and thus freeing prisoners) ends the day. A little conundrum there.

Journey sequence of events:

Uncorrupted Ringbearer may pass on the Ring.
Aragorn protects.
Gollum steals.
Witch-King searches.
Witch-King corrupts.
Uruk-Hai hunts.
Gandalf scans.

Chapter sequence of events:

Broadcast:
Which faction (Fellowship, Servants of the Eye, Gollum) controls the One Ring.
Which players are captured by the Uruk-Hai.
Remaining players.
Display ”You may Hunt some Orc” if ”Hunt some Orc” is legal.

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Ring passed at Start of JOURNEY, not Chapter

I was going from this

HOBBIT GAMEPLAY

Frodo, Gollum or the Hobbits may become captured by the Uruk-Hai. A captured player is forbidden to post or vote so long as he is captured. A captured player may not be Appointed as Scout (lynched) until freed. If the captured player is a Ringbearer, that player keeps the Ring until he is released. Possession of the One Ring is considered to be with the Servants of the Eye faction in this instance. If the Ringbearer is freed by Hunt some Orc, however, and still uncorrupted the possession of the Ring goes back to whatever faction the Ringbearer has (Fellowship or Gollum). If the Uruk-Hai is killed while players are captured, those players are not freed but the Uruk-Hai is removed as an active player. In this case, goblins and orcs are considered to have run off with the little ones until the Fellowship have successfully Hunted some Orc.

Frodo and Hobbit Ringbearers may pass the Ring on to any other player at any time during a Chapter, before voting is closed, by sending a PM to the Moderator specifying which player the Ring is to be given. The recipient of the Ring will be told the player name of the player who sent the Ring to him. The Ring may only be passed on once per Chapter. The Ring may not be passed to a captured or dead player. If a Ringbearer is voted out before he is able or willing to pass the Ring on, Frodo finds it. If Frodo is dead or captured, it will be determined randomly who finds it. Captured players may not receive the Ring this way. Any of the Free People who holds the ring will be corrupted immediately and ally with the Servants of the Eye.

LL - which is it?

stessier wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:I think I'm going to want answers from the Mod to the Floating Questions

The guy's probably eating dinner. A wee bit impatient today, aren't we?

Remus West wrote:Considering the work he put in to match game to book I would assume the Urakhai would kill Boromir. That is pure conjecture though.

Considering all the captured Hobbits shouldn't we have access to Treebeard at some point?

Lagom Lite wrote:RULES CLARIFICATIONS: Both. The Ring may be passed, once, during a Chapter. The Ring may be passed, once, during a Journey.

Both. The Ring may be passed, once, during a Chapter. The Ring may be passed, once, during a Journey.

Chaosraven wrote:

stessier wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:I think I'm going to want answers from the Mod to the Floating Questions

The guy's probably eating dinner. A wee bit impatient today, aren't we?

The answer regarding Boromir is pretty vital to determining where we could be at, with regards to Semajs death.

stessier wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:

stessier wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:I think I'm going to want answers from the Mod to the Floating Questions

The guy's probably eating dinner. A wee bit impatient today, aren't we?

The answer regarding Boromir is pretty vital to determining where we could be at, with regards to Semajs death.

Sure, but there is no time limit I am aware of. We can let the poor man eat.

Chaosraven wrote:Ok... so Semaj *could* have been Boromir.

1/6 Bad Guy died
5/6 Good Guy Died

and 1/3 Good Special Died

stessier wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:Ok... so Semaj *could* have been Boromir.

1/6 Bad Guy died
5/6 Good Guy Died

and 1/3 Good Special Died

Who are the 3 Good Specials that could have died?

Grundbegriff wrote:

Lagom Lite wrote:RULES CLARIFICATIONS: Both. The Ring may be passed, once, during a Chapter. The Ring may be passed, once, during a Journey.

You just made that up, didn't you.

Arcanis wrote:1/3 as a ratio. there it is 2/6 which was reduced to 1/3.

stessier wrote:Also, I wouldn't count Boromir as a Good Special. He's the Sorcerer.

Chaosraven wrote:You guys are really more comfortable with 16.5% used?

Seems to me that people start arguing about the tiniest discrepancies at that point...

Grundbegriff wrote:

tru1cy wrote:Send me to scout if you like...

?

Don't you want to play?

Witchraven wrote:THE FREE PEOPLE ((6)) - ((now at 5))

Aragorn - semaj?
Gandalf - semaj?
Boromir - semaj?
3 Warriors of the Free People - semaj?

Chaosraven wrote:If that turn order resolves as listed, semaj was not Corrupted

tru1cy wrote:

Grundbegriff wrote:

tru1cy wrote:Send me to scout if you like...

?
Don't you want to play?

I'm always playing....

stessier wrote:

Witchraven wrote:THE FREE PEOPLE ((6)) - ((now at 5))

Aragorn - semaj?
Gandalf - semaj?
Boromir - semaj?
3 Warriors of the Free People - semaj?

I find this odd. The King could have successfully converted someone last night. That should say "now at 5 or 4."

stessier wrote:The Fellowship was 14.

4 hobbits + Frodo + Gollum + 2 Evil = 8 who wouldn't have died last night. 6 Free People who could have. That's less than 50% chance of someone dying. Clearly this expedition is cursed. We're doomed.

Unagi wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:Shit... Even worse, it gives the witchking a shopping list of hobbits to corrupt.

nope on converts (but yes on hunting for the ringbearer).

2. Convert one of the Free People by whispering sweet promises of power into the ear of one player. Corruption this way only works on the Free People but not on Hobbits, Frodo, Gollum or Servants of the Eye.

Arcanis wrote:possible roles of Samaj:
Aragorn, Gandalf, Boromir, 3x Warriors of the Free People.

So there is a 50/50 chance that we lost a special. Not counting chance of corruption by the King.

stessier wrote:So yeah, this is gonna be tough.

Also, I wouldn't count Boromir as a Good Special. He's the Sorcerer.

Chaosraven wrote:Grund, I don't think the urukhai can kill a ringearer. If hobbit, frodo or gollum, they are captured. If free, they would have been corrupted before his order is processed, and its a miss, from the way the order looks. LAGOM - CAN FRODO PASS THE RING TO A CORRUPTED HOBBIT IN CHAPTER SEVEN TO WIN? Or is anyone corrupted given the new role of Servant of the Eye?

Chaosraven wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:Grund, I don't think the urukhai can kill a ringearer. If hobbit, frodo or gollum, they are captured. If free, they would have been corrupted before his order is processed, and its a miss, from the way the order looks. LAGOM - CAN FRODO PASS THE RING TO A CORRUPTED HOBBIT IN CHAPTER SEVEN TO WIN? Or is anyone corrupted given the new role of Servant of the Eye?

I think I missed having that question asked

If free, they would have been corrupted before his order is processed, and its a miss, from the way the order looks.

LL, do the steps resolve in order?
i.e. Corrupted by Ring, Corrupted by WK, Hunted by UH, Scanned by Gandlaf?
Thereby affecting steps following?

Grundbegriff wrote: One does not simply walk into Mordor.

Grundbegriff wrote: Wasted on cross-country! Very dangerous over short distances!

Chaosraven wrote:

stessier wrote:

Witchraven wrote:THE FREE PEOPLE ((6)) - ((now at 5))

Aragorn - semaj?
Gandalf - semaj?
Boromir - semaj?
3 Warriors of the Free People - semaj?

I find this odd. The King could have successfully converted someone last night. That should say "now at 5 or 4."

Getting to the Conversion side of things in a minute

Grundbegriff wrote:

Chaosraven wrote:

stessier wrote:

Witchraven wrote:THE FREE PEOPLE ((6)) - ((now at 5))

Aragorn - semaj?
Gandalf - semaj?
Boromir - semaj?
3 Warriors of the Free People - semaj?

I find this odd. The King could have successfully converted someone last night. That should say "now at 5 or 4."

Getting to the Conversion side of things in a minute

You mean, you decided (for the sake of clarity) not to fold the issue of corruption into your population numbers and to address the effect of corruption on population in a subsequent post?

I guess that means you're the Mother Alien.

Grundbegriff wrote:You mean, you decided (for the sake of clarity) not to fold the issue of corruption into your population numbers and to address the effect of corruption on population in a subsequent post?

Grundbegriff wrote: Players

• Arcanis
• Brendan
• Chaosraven
• Grundbegriff
• Isgrimnur
• Newcastle
• redrun
• Remus West
• Scoop20906
• Semaj (One of {Aragorn, Gandalf, Boromir, W01, W02, W03})
• stessier
• theohall
• tru1cy
• Unagi

Roles

• Frodo
• Hobbit01 (Sam)
• Hobbit02 (Merry)
• Hobbit03 (Pippin)
• Hobbit04 (Harpo)
• Aragorn {Protects}
• Gandalf {Scans}
• Boromir {Wins with Servants}
• Warrior01 (Gimli)
• Warrior02 (Legolas)
• Warrior03 (Eowyn)
• Witch-King {Seeks, Corrupts}
• Uruk-Hai {Kills, Uruk-Haijacks}
• Gollum

Arcanis wrote:1 other possibility on WK's corruption is that Aragorn protected last night as well. The probability of that happening is pretty slim as both WK and Ar had to randomly select the same target, but should also be listed under possible outcomes. I think all of the other possibilities got covered.

Grundbegriff wrote:

Grundbegriff wrote: Players

• Arcanis
• Brendan
• Chaosraven
• Grundbegriff
• Isgrimnur
• Newcastle
• redrun
• Remus West
• Scoop20906
• Semaj (One of {Aragorn, Gandalf, Boromir, W01, W02, W03})
• stessier
• theohall
• tru1cy
• Unagi

Roles

• Frodo
• Hobbit01 (Sam)
• Hobbit02 (Merry)
• Hobbit03 (Pippin)
• Hobbit04 (Harpo)
• Aragorn {Protects}
• Gandalf {Scans}
• Boromir {Wins with Servants}
• Warrior01 (Gimli)
• Warrior02 (Legolas)
• Warrior03 (Eowyn)
• Witch-King {Seeks, Corrupts}
• Uruk-Hai {Kills, Uruk-Haijacks}
• Gollum

Who can prove himself?
Who can be emulated by Servants?
Who is expendable?
Is there a rational way to select a Scout?

Chaosraven wrote:

Arcanis wrote:1 other possibility on WK's corruption is that Aragorn protected last night as well. The probability of that happening is pretty slim as both WK and Ar had to randomly select the same target, but should also be listed under possible outcomes. I think all of the other possibilities got covered.

Is there any reason Aragorn should NOT attempt protection?

I think the only way he shouldn't is on Journey Six, to leave options open for Journey Seven, if required.