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Clearly redundant.Unagi wrote:agreed, (in fact, I am pretty surprised by the ruling)Lassr wrote:Game over! For Thorne that is.
stessier, I think Back-ups are basically 'protection' and can be applied to a buddy, should you wish.
And, just to start things off here :
> kill -9 Isgrimnur
What's the point of that program anyway?
Once a sector is scanned, all code there is removed. Future scans on that sector will turn up empty. There is no mechanism for stealing code from another program.Remus West wrote:Well, with two folks having found virus scans Thorne does seem to be relatively screwed as we can narrow down to a starting group of corrupted that we can derez/clean to remove the corruption. Then it becomes a fight between the MCP and Flynn for the win. The corruption needs to be removed first though or Thorne is going to be the winner by default eventually. With 16 living players you can each scan 8. However, with 15 living players (post lynch) you will each be scanning 7 and leaving a single unscanned player.
Scoop, can code be stolen? That is, if someone scans a sector where the players found the virus scan can they take the virus scan for themselves and deny it to the previous program?
You know, I could have sworn Permission bits were acquired by piling on a vote. It seems I was completely mistaken, and instead the bits are gathered like any other Code.stessier wrote:There is no guarantee anyone has any bits yet.Lagom Lite wrote:Permission bits, I guess.stessier wrote:So - is there any reason we should actually lynch someone today and not just punt?
But there is risk to every other program. The MCP is searching more per Downtime than we are. We need everyone we can to gather the bits. There is no auto night time kill, so we aren't ceding anything by passing. And I'm pretty sure Scoop would roll the day if we all votedcoopasonic wrote:The only reason in my mind would be so we don't have to wait until Wed night to see what happens next. Flynn is immune to lynch/termination, so not much risk there.stessier wrote:So - is there any reason we should actually lynch someone today and not just punt?
Since there is a deadline on voting, Pass voting must be legal. Either that or remove the deadline.stessier wrote:But there is risk to every other program. The MCP is searching more per Downtime than we are. We need everyone we can to gather the bits. There is no auto night time kill, so we aren't ceding anything by passing. And I'm pretty sure Scoop would roll the day if we all votedcoopasonic wrote:The only reason in my mind would be so we don't have to wait until Wed night to see what happens next. Flynn is immune to lynch/termination, so not much risk there.stessier wrote:So - is there any reason we should actually lynch someone today and not just punt?
Pass
Corruption needs to be removed first? That plays into MCPs hands, doesn't it Sark?Remus West wrote:Well, with two folks having found virus scans Thorne does seem to be relatively screwed as we can narrow down to a starting group of corrupted that we can derez/clean to remove the corruption. Then it becomes a fight between the MCP and Flynn for the win. The corruption needs to be removed first though or Thorne is going to be the winner by default eventually. With 16 living players you can each scan 8. However, with 15 living players (post lynch) you will each be scanning 7 and leaving a single unscanned player.
The eventually win for Thorne is a ways out there. Downtime 4 with luck and coordination with Daft Punk and the opportunity for coordination is limited.How in Planck's black body are we going to purge this system of errant code like Isgrimnur.exe by Passing?stessier wrote: Pass
and if we wait to make the scans and attack him what type of corruption pool are we then looking at? Likely much larger than right now.coopasonic wrote:Corruption needs to be removed first? That plays into MCPs hands, doesn't it Sark?Remus West wrote:Well, with two folks having found virus scans Thorne does seem to be relatively screwed as we can narrow down to a starting group of corrupted that we can derez/clean to remove the corruption. Then it becomes a fight between the MCP and Flynn for the win. The corruption needs to be removed first though or Thorne is going to be the winner by default eventually. With 16 living players you can each scan 8. However, with 15 living players (post lynch) you will each be scanning 7 and leaving a single unscanned player.
Everyone vote? That's inconceivable. Also I'd think he would want to wait for Pass to have the majority before rolling with no lynch. I'll follow for now, but if the pile on Isgrimnur grows I might jump ship.stessier wrote: There is no auto night time kill, so we aren't ceding anything by passing. And I'm pretty sure Scoop would roll the day if we all voted
Pass
i.e. I forgot to add it) but I will add it soon. 
dude, all the cool kids skimstessier wrote:Read all of the posts, Newcastle.
It's spelled kewlNewcastle wrote:dude, all the cool kids skimstessier wrote:Read all of the posts, Newcastle.
am so confused anyway in this game atm so still tryin to figure out the sprockets, from sockets, to third party protocols to strings, to the beans, to the unfailing errors
but otherwise than that, am cool
Why?Austin wrote: but I think someone else searched it as well.
RMC wrote:I scanned segment 25 to no avail as well.
stessier wrote:Why?Austin wrote: but I think someone else searched it as well.
stessier wrote:Read all of the posts, Newcastle.
coopasonic wrote:Damn I already submitted my orders for sector 1. As a matter of trivia, Scoop needs to keep track of the number of collisions.Austin wrote:I am searching sector 1. You guys stay off it, mine!
But he already said he looked at 46 this morning.Unagi wrote:stessier wrote:Why?Austin wrote: but I think someone else searched it as well.stessier wrote:Read all of the posts, Newcastle.coopasonic wrote:Damn I already submitted my orders for sector 1. As a matter of trivia, Scoop needs to keep track of the number of collisions.Austin wrote:I am searching sector 1. You guys stay off it, mine!
RMC - Austin - they all look the same from here...stessier wrote:But he already said he looked at 46 this morning.Unagi wrote:stessier wrote:Why?Austin wrote: but I think someone else searched it as well.stessier wrote:Read all of the posts, Newcastle.coopasonic wrote:Damn I already submitted my orders for sector 1. As a matter of trivia, Scoop needs to keep track of the number of collisions.Austin wrote:I am searching sector 1. You guys stay off it, mine!
A better question is why did RMC Austin go after Sector 1 if he thought coop was already going there.
Missed that.stessier wrote:
But he already said he looked at 46 this morning.
Funny, I hadn't even gone back to clarify the exact "who" had said what this, and who claimed what this morning. I thought I just totally zinged your ass.stessier wrote:But he already said he looked at 46 this morning.
A better question is why did RMC go after Sector 1 if he thought coop was already going there.
That is actually a good question.stessier wrote:A better question is why did RMC Austin go after Sector 1 if he thought coop was already going there.
I claimed it first and sent my order in. I have no reason to trust coop. I want to be known for my usual transparent game play and the honesty for which I am remembered. It's about integrity.stessier wrote: A better question is why did RMC Austin go after Sector 1 if he thought coop was already going there.
But now he's a different old dude, so confusing.RMC wrote:But I am a Moon and Austin is a old dude....
I see what you did there.Unagi wrote:That is actually a good question.stessier wrote:A better question is why did RMC Austin go after Sector 1 if he thought coop was already going there.
Austin, had you placed your three scan orders in already, before Coop said he was also scanning sector 1?
There is enough German with Bubbles around, I am now Swiss'ish.coopasonic wrote:But now he's a different old dude, so confusing.RMC wrote:But I am a Moon and Austin is a old dude....
MOD RULING: Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate everyone's comments. However, there is no perfect solution but I think this is the best one considering where we are in the game.Scoop20906 wrote:MOD NOTE: Two things...
First, programs may vote PASS if they wish to move the uptime forward and not terminate a program. Its not in the rulez (its there in spirit
Second, it seems we might have an exploit regarding Thorne and the virus scan code. While I HATE to jimmy with the rulez after the game has started I was very ambitious with this rulez set and I knew I would miss some of the balancing issues. Therefore I want to freeze the game for a moment so I can get a ruling from everyone who wishes to weigh in.
Should Thorne show as infected when scanned by the virus scan??
Possible rule changes?
- Thorne will show as "Clean" during Downtime 1 and Downtime 2. During Downtime 3 Thorne will show his true form and scan as "Infected".
- Thorne has the ability to block an anti-virus scan on any one program (including himself). This ability expires at the beginning of Downtime 3.
Everyone, please PM me your suggestions/comments and I will make a ruling. Also, I will not process any orders (for example derezz) until this issue is resolves. Programs can continue to vote. If we reach a majority before this is resolves the game will be on hold until the issue is resolved.
Just an FYI, I have received more than a few comments from players regard the Thorne issue. This is why I am willing to consider changing it mid-game.
Thorne:
J.D. Thorne is a security chief at ENCOM gone missing during the events of Tron 2.0. Somehow Thorne was able to enter the system but the conversion left him insane and corrupted. Consequently, Thorne is trying to corrupt the system and take control however Thorne's corruption will cause the system to crash destroying everything including Thorne himself.
Corrupt : Each Downtime, Thorne can Corrupt a Program by "infecting" it.
Ping : Thorne may secretly send a message to either the MPC or Flynn each downtime.
Thorne will not be informed who the MPC or Flynn is. The MPC and Flynn will be not informed who Thorne is.
The Ping must be under 125 characters.
Infection : Thorne will show as "clean" when scanned by a virus scan code.
If 75% or more of functioning programs are infected, then Thorne will show as "infected" when scanned by a virus scan code.
