That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
That's already happening. Americans have short memories, and they will scream bloody murder when gas prices inevitably creep back up. Thanks, Obama.Octavious wrote:I have a hard time believing that we'll ever see another boom in gas guzzlers. The price would probably never stay low long enough for it to happen. I of course will be horribly wrong about this.
I always underestimate how dumb people can be. Had to order propane for the house. 2.27 a gallon! That has to be almost a dollar a gallon cheaper then last year.Kraken wrote:That's already happening. Americans have short memories, and they will scream bloody murder when gas prices inevitably creep back up. Thanks, Obama.Octavious wrote:I have a hard time believing that we'll ever see another boom in gas guzzlers. The price would probably never stay low long enough for it to happen. I of course will be horribly wrong about this.
In Chicago, the rest of us are still enjoying it.Jeff V wrote:It's back up to near $3 at many places around here. The cheap gas era lasted days this time.
I can't imagine anyone would be stupid enough to buy a vehicle with "poor" gas mileage now based on what are probably temporary low prices.Octavious wrote:I have a hard time believing that we'll ever see another boom in gas guzzlers. The price would probably never stay low long enough for it to happen. I of course will be horribly wrong about this.
Not near Detroit. I did manage to find $1.79, though most places are around $1.89. Either way I won't complain.Teggy wrote:Paid $1.65 in Michigan yesterday. Craziness.
and yet SUV sales are booming right now, setting record sales numbers.Scuzz wrote:I can't imagine anyone would be stupid enough to buy a vehicle with "poor" gas mileage now based on what are probably temporary low prices.Octavious wrote:I have a hard time believing that we'll ever see another boom in gas guzzlers. The price would probably never stay low long enough for it to happen. I of course will be horribly wrong about this.
With a slow down in some places, there has been an excess of oil and OPEC hasn't decreased production. I believe the current theory is that they are content with lower prices as it will force frakking type wells to go off line eventually as they are profitable above 70-80/barrel. I think. It's kind of depends who you listen to.Chaz wrote:What's been the driver for the falling prices lately? I've been wondering, but haven't really had a chance to research it.
And then I get a nail in my tire. Which pretty much canceled out any gas savings.Octavious wrote:I always underestimate how dumb people can be. Had to order propane for the house. 2.27 a gallon! That has to be almost a dollar a gallon cheaper then last year.Kraken wrote:That's already happening. Americans have short memories, and they will scream bloody murder when gas prices inevitably creep back up. Thanks, Obama.Octavious wrote:I have a hard time believing that we'll ever see another boom in gas guzzlers. The price would probably never stay low long enough for it to happen. I of course will be horribly wrong about this.
Just to put that in graph form:stessier wrote:With a slow down in some places, there has been an excess of oil and OPEC hasn't decreased production. I believe the current theory is that they are content with lower prices as it will force frakking type wells to go off line eventually as they are profitable above 70-80/barrel. I think. It's kind of depends who you listen to.Chaz wrote:What's been the driver for the falling prices lately? I've been wondering, but haven't really had a chance to research it.
From the Middle East, top exporter Saudi Arabia is offering crude at discounted prices in an attempt to defend its remaining share of the important regional market, which has shrunk by more than half in recent months.
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On Monday, Saudi Aramco stepped up its counteroffensive, cutting its monthly U.S.-bound price for Arab Medium for a sixth straight month, putting it at the deepest discount against the regional sour crude benchmark since December 2013.
The timing of this clash may magnify its market impact as Houston-area oil refiners shut down for maintenance in early spring, further reducing their demand by an estimated 1 million barrels a day (bpd).
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Large volumes of foreign heavy oil reaching the Gulf Coast will give many U.S. refiners more choice after they have upgraded their systems to process cheaper, heavier crudes. The new supply also marks a breakthrough in Canada's years-long effort to bring its growing Alberta oil sands crude output to new markets.
Enbridge Inc's 600,000 bpd Flanagan South pipeline, which runs from Illinois down to the Cushing, Oklahoma, oil hub began commercial service on Dec. 1; Enterprise Product Partner announced that its 450,000 bpd Seaway Twin pipeline from Oklahoma to Freeport, Texas, shipped its first volumes on Dec. 21.
I liked this summary.Chaz wrote:What's been the driver for the falling prices lately? I've been wondering, but haven't really had a chance to research it.
Kraken wrote:I paid $2.30 for premium most recently. Granted, that includes a 50-cent discount courtesy of my grocery card...but still. $2.30 for premium, $21 to fill my tank.
To R&P this, it seems a rise in gas tax seems inevitable, not to capitalize on cheaper prices, but rather to make up revenue lost to decreases in consumption. Petroleum taxes should drive infrastructure maintenance as the petroleum and infrastructure go hand in hand.dbt1949 wrote:I heard a reporter's remarks this morning that the feds are thinking about raising gas taxes to help us out with too low prices.
http://www.seismosoc.org/society/press_ ... elease.pdfem2nought wrote:Less fracking, darn. There goes my retirement in 5 years plan. Got some 87 for around $2.50 a gallon in TN or GA, but had to buy jewelry from some democrat in the parking lot in order to escape with my life.
I need 89 octane (mid-grade, I guess it is). Every now and then I treat it to 91.Moliere wrote:Kraken wrote:I paid $2.30 for premium most recently. Granted, that includes a 50-cent discount courtesy of my grocery card...but still. $2.30 for premium, $21 to fill my tank.
You buy premium? Do you drive a sports car? Are you independently wealthy?
http://blog.tischerauto.com/the-importa ... r-vehicle/Most newer-model vehicles contain engines with computer-controlled or variable valve timing and sensors that monitor engine knock. For these advanced engines, higher octane fuels (some with booster additives) will often be required to maintain engine power and performance. However, for older-model vehicles without computer-controlled timing or variable valve timing, there may be little to no point in using a higher-than-recommended octane fuel with stock timing settings. So, for older-model vehicles, using the lowest octane your vehicle can support will not harm the engine performance and will only save you money at the pump.
It is important to note that using an octane fuel that is too high for your vehicle will adversely affect its fuel efficiency. Higher octane fuel requires more heat and more precision to ignite correctly. For example, if a car is designed to use 87 octane, burning 93 octane can cause the engine to produce less power, thus making it require more fuel to perform at the same level. So you will want to be prudent and use the lower octane.
The fuel that you put into your vehicle is important, so we recommend that you always follow the guidelines set by the manufacturer.
Rip wrote:Umm, using higher octane than recommended is no better than using lower octane.
If your car engine isn't specifically designed to take advantage of high octane fuel, 89, 91, or 93 will do nothing for you other than make your wallet lighter.LordMortis wrote:That was my impression but I simply don't know anymore. They keep changing things on me. /lifts cane and shakes it.Rip wrote:Umm, using higher octane than recommended is no better than using lower octane.
I'm in Colorado. My car takes 85wonderpug wrote:Some cars that say they require 91 octane can still get by on 89 or even 87 sometimes without having knock issues.
