hitbyambulance wrote:"The Green Party keeps its one seat in the House of Commons. That is in Saanich-Gulf Islands and is held by leader Elizabeth May"
just one??
never heard of Saanich-Gulf Islands...
First past the post. Statistically, it is a minor miracle that a party that gets less than 4% of the popular vote has any seats under this system. That they have one seat speaks more to the popularity of Elizabeth May than it does to the Green Party in general, especially given that historically her riding has tended to vote conservative (Progressive Conservative/Reform/Alliance/Conservative).
As usual, we're going to see a lot of post-election chatter about how we need to move from FPTP to a system that produces more proportional results. This will mostly come from supporters of the minor parties (i.e. the ones that will never win elections) -- the fringier the party, the more strongly they feel about FPTP. It is interesting to note, though, that there have been referenda on electoral reform at the provincial level (one in Ontario and a couple in British Columbia, that I know of) and when put to the vote, people have chosen to stick with FPTP. Even if the Liberals do choose to take a serious look at electoral reform, it isn't a given that the majority of Canadians will choose to fix something that they may not see as all that broken. It will be interesting to see what happens on that front.
"What? What?What?" -- The 14th Doctor
It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
In defeat, Stephen Harper showed something he often lacked in power: grace.
He made his exit with grace towards both winners and losers. "The people are never wrong," he said. Simultaneously, a party statement said the search is on for a new interim leader. And with that, Harper was gone, leaving no further doubt about the question the NDP posed to voters in their ads: "Had enough yet?" After nine years and eight months in office, Stephen Harper finally turned off too many voters. Soon, he'll be hurling his political obituaries across the room.
Time, of course, may cool the steaming dislike of Harper's abrasive brand of politics. Perhaps his creditable record in domestic and foreign affairs will be remembered more fondly when the alternative becomes clear. For now, though, the sheer nastiness of the Harper style looms large in his defeat. He brought taxes down as he promised. He was bold without being visionary in foreign affairs. But there's no way around it: Harper's thuggish political tactics alienated friends and energized enemies. Time and again throughout this long campaign voters said they wanted him gone. More than they wanted anyone else to win, they wanted Harper to lose. They'd even vote Liberal if that's what it took.
"What? What?What?" -- The 14th Doctor
It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
For the first (and hopefully only) time in my life, I actually regret not being plugged into Facebook. If I was, I might have have read this before today. (Well, I might have read it a couple of days ago if I paid attention to Global News -- but I have no regrets there. None!)
Dear Mr. Harper,
I live in BC with my husband and two little girls. I grew up in Calgary and have many friends and family members there. I’m white and in my early 40s. One of us is a stay at home parent, so we benefit 100% from the direct deposits in lieu of a national childcare program. We also benefit 100% from income splitting. And we can afford to take advantage of the increased allowance in our TFSAs.
In other words, we’re the picture of the family who benefits the most from your economic policies.
But we’re not voting Conservative on October 19th.
You see, you’ve misjudged us. We enjoy our standard of living, we work hard for it but it’s not the only thing that matters to us.
You assume we don’t care about our first nations neighbours, or Canadians trying to bring their family members here from war torn countries. That we don’t care about less fortunate Canadians, our veterans, or scientists. You think we don’t mind that to save a few bucks and balance the books we axed the census, dumped decades of research from our libraries, cut funding to CBC, underspent our budgets in important departments and closed coast guard stations. You figure we no longer want our lakes and rivers protected and that we don’t understand that climate change is a far greater risk to our way of life than Barbaric Cultural Practices.
You’ve underestimated us.
On October 19, we’re not voting for our bank balance. We’re voting for change because we want the caring Canada of our youth back. The Canada that supported our single mothers that gave us the opportunity to succeed in the first place.
Mary Cleaver
Just this once, I really want to click on a "Like" icon.
"What? What?What?" -- The 14th Doctor
It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
I will be more interested in her facebook post following four years of having your economy dragged in the toilet. Put me in a wakeup call for October 2019.
Rip wrote:I will be more interested in her facebook post following four years of having your economy dragged in the toilet. Put me in a wakeup call for October 2019.
Awww, somebody needs a hug.
"What? What?What?" -- The 14th Doctor
It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
Rip wrote:I will be more interested in her facebook post following four years of having your economy dragged in the toilet. Put me in a wakeup call for October 2019.
No.
Feel free to do it yourself. You'll need to keep checking in though, because we might just have an election next year to confuse our American counter-parts that don't understand anything about Canada but feel the need to comment critically anyway.
Hell, just take a look at economic performance under the various parties, my nonsense spewing fear mongering friend.
Rip wrote:I will be more interested in her facebook post following four years of having your economy dragged in the toilet. Put me in a wakeup call for October 2019.
Awww, somebody needs a hug.
We'd get a scientist to do it but their hands are tied. Hopefully we can fix that soonish.
Rip wrote:I will be more interested in her facebook post following four years of having your economy dragged in the toilet. Put me in a wakeup call for October 2019.
Awww, somebody needs a hug.
We'd get a scientist to do it but their hands are tied. Hopefully we can fix that soonish.
Only in Canada could a hug be something you need to wait on a scientist for.
Our scientists are some of the best huggers out there, but quite honestly I think they need a hug more than you do. Part of this election was one great big hug for them.
GreenGoo wrote:Our scientists are some of the best huggers out there, but quite honestly I think they need a hug more than you do. Part of this election was one great big hug for them.
I know they are great huggers. Just didn't think they would be into me. Me not being a tree and all.
GreenGoo wrote:Our scientists are some of the best huggers out there, but quite honestly I think they need a hug more than you do. Part of this election was one great big hug for them.
I know they are great huggers. Just didn't think they would be into me. Me not being a tree and all.
You're so rigid and wooden in your mindset, I forgive them for their initial confusion.
Also, Canadians hug people because they need hugging, not because we want to bang them (not necessarily, anyway )
Rip wrote:I will be more interested in her facebook post following four years of having your economy dragged in the toilet. Put me in a wakeup call for October 2019.
No.
Feel free to do it yourself. You'll need to keep checking in though, because we might just have an election next year to confuse our American counter-parts that don't understand anything about Canada but feel the need to comment critically anyway.
But we probably won't.
Strictly speaking, we have a largely symbolic Harper-era law on the books that "mandates" a fixed election date when the government wins an election (3rd Monday in October, on the 4th calendar year following the election). The reason given for passing the law was that historically governments had a tendancy to keep an eye on public opinion and call early snap elections if they were riding high at the moment. However, the law is a toothless in this regard since it doesn't prevent the Governor General from dissolving parliament early, on the advice of the Prime Minister, and calling an election prior to the specified date. Harper himself demonstrated that he didn't actually believe the law was anything other than symbolic in this regard when he called an early election in 2008. The only real effect of the law is that it specifies a maximum duration for a Parliament.
At any rate, the Liberals have a solid majority and a metric shit-ton of work to do if they want to make good on their policy positions. We might see an early election, but I'd be shocked if it was early by a matter of years rather than months, and I fully expect it to be held on 21 Oct 2019.
"What? What?What?" -- The 14th Doctor
It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
Rip wrote:I will be more interested in her facebook post following four years of having your economy dragged in the toilet. Put me in a wakeup call for October 2019.
No.
Feel free to do it yourself. You'll need to keep checking in though, because we might just have an election next year to confuse our American counter-parts that don't understand anything about Canada but feel the need to comment critically anyway.
That's about the extent of what I have to say about the Canadian Election
That's pretty much the full extent of what Canadians' have to say about him too.
Welcome aboard.
I mocked the Conservative ad campaign trying to convince me he's "Just not ready" because it was hamfisted psychology, but the truth is I don't believe he's ready, and now he's got a majority. I hope he has some good handlers.
I guess I just don't understand Canadian politics.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "“I like taking the guns early...to go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.” -President Donald Trump. "...To guard, protect, and maintain his liberty, the freedman should have the ballot; that the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." - Frederick Douglass MYT
That's about the extent of what I have to say about the Canadian Election
That's pretty much the full extent of what Canadians' have to say about him too.
Welcome aboard.
I mocked the Conservative ad campaign trying to convince me he's "Just not ready" because it was hamfisted psychology, but the truth is I don't believe he's ready, and now he's got a majority. I hope he has some good handlers.
Don't worry - he's the son of a previous leader of the country. Kids of previous rulers never screw things up.
I guess I just don't understand Canadian politics.
Well, it's my thread and in my riding the woman did win, so you weren't exactly wrong. Heck, even if you meant Elizabeth May, she did win the only thing she could -- her own riding.
"What? What?What?" -- The 14th Doctor
It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
I find it amazing just how much of a clean sweep the Liberals got. It was almost unanimous.
In my riding, it could have gone either way. We had strong NDP support during the last cycle, but we also had strong historical Liberal support, and I don't think we've ever had any conservative wins in my region, at least in the time I've been here, and I've been here since the early 80's.
Personally, I voted NDP. I was quite familiar with their candidate, but I didn't know anything about our Liberal candidate, and he was also a first-run. Given the support we had for the NDP we had last time, I was feeling pretty good about their chances, until it seemed that their support eroded. Were they ever slammed!
It must suck to stoop to accepting the Fords' endorsement and then fail to win even a single seat in their little Etobicoke fiefdom. The Liberals took all three Etobicoke ridings with clean majorities.
"What? What?What?" -- The 14th Doctor
It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
Canadian Prime Minister-designate Justin Trudeau has confirmed he will withdraw Canadian fighter jets from the air strikes against Islamic State (IS) in Iraq and Syria. He informed US President Barack Obama of his decision hours after leading his Liberal party to victory in the polls. As part of his election campaign, Mr Trudeau pledged to bring home the CF-18 fighter jets that were deployed to the region until March 2016. He has not yet given a timescale.
Justin Trudeau's Liberals swept to power in Monday election, ending nearly a decade of Conservative rule under Stephen Harper. Mr Trudeau, an ex-high-school teacher, is the eldest son of late Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.
In his first telephone conversation with the US president as Canada's prime minister-designate, Mr Trudeau informed Barack Obama that he would make good on his election promise to withdraw the fighter jets. "I committed that we would continue to engage in a responsible way that understands how important Canada has a role to play in the fight against ISIL (Islamic State), but he (Barack Obama) understands the commitments I've made around ending the combat mission," he told reporters in Ottawa on Tuesday. However, he said he would keep Canadian military trainers in northern Iraq, the AFP news agency reports. Mr Trudeau has also vowed to take in 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the year - a move previously rejected by his predecessor Stephen Harper, who took a much harder line on the issue. He also quipped that President Obama had "teased me about my lack of grey hair, but said I'd probably get some quite soon".
"What? What?What?" -- The 14th Doctor
It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
Canadian Prime Minister-designate Justin Trudeau has confirmed he will withdraw Canadian fighter jets from the air strikes against Islamic State (IS) in Iraq and Syria. He informed US President Barack Obama of his decision hours after leading his Liberal party to victory in the polls. As part of his election campaign, Mr Trudeau pledged to bring home the CF-18 fighter jets that were deployed to the region until March 2016. He has not yet given a timescale.
Justin Trudeau's Liberals swept to power in Monday election, ending nearly a decade of Conservative rule under Stephen Harper. Mr Trudeau, an ex-high-school teacher, is the eldest son of late Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.
In his first telephone conversation with the US president as Canada's prime minister-designate, Mr Trudeau informed Barack Obama that he would make good on his election promise to withdraw the fighter jets. "I committed that we would continue to engage in a responsible way that understands how important Canada has a role to play in the fight against ISIL (Islamic State), but he (Barack Obama) understands the commitments I've made around ending the combat mission," he told reporters in Ottawa on Tuesday. However, he said he would keep Canadian military trainers in northern Iraq, the AFP news agency reports. Mr Trudeau has also vowed to take in 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the year - a move previously rejected by his predecessor Stephen Harper, who took a much harder line on the issue. He also quipped that President Obama had "teased me about my lack of grey hair, but said I'd probably get some quite soon".
Why would I care, the entire Canadian air force couldn't get as much work done as a single Russian fighter anyway?
Canadian Prime Minister-designate Justin Trudeau has confirmed he will withdraw Canadian fighter jets from the air strikes against Islamic State (IS) in Iraq and Syria. He informed US President Barack Obama of his decision hours after leading his Liberal party to victory in the polls. As part of his election campaign, Mr Trudeau pledged to bring home the CF-18 fighter jets that were deployed to the region until March 2016. He has not yet given a timescale.
Justin Trudeau's Liberals swept to power in Monday election, ending nearly a decade of Conservative rule under Stephen Harper. Mr Trudeau, an ex-high-school teacher, is the eldest son of late Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.
In his first telephone conversation with the US president as Canada's prime minister-designate, Mr Trudeau informed Barack Obama that he would make good on his election promise to withdraw the fighter jets. "I committed that we would continue to engage in a responsible way that understands how important Canada has a role to play in the fight against ISIL (Islamic State), but he (Barack Obama) understands the commitments I've made around ending the combat mission," he told reporters in Ottawa on Tuesday. However, he said he would keep Canadian military trainers in northern Iraq, the AFP news agency reports. Mr Trudeau has also vowed to take in 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the year - a move previously rejected by his predecessor Stephen Harper, who took a much harder line on the issue. He also quipped that President Obama had "teased me about my lack of grey hair, but said I'd probably get some quite soon".
Why would I care, the entire Canadian air force couldn't get as much work done as a single Russian fighter anyway?
You can do better. I can't give anything more than a C for that effort.
(Hint: Pretending not to care is an impotent insult. If you didn't care, you wouldn't take the bait.)
"What? What?What?" -- The 14th Doctor
It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
Oh, BBC, you disappoint me with your indepth political analysis. It's almost like you fell in love with a photo and wrote an essay to justify (see what I did there?) publishing it.
While some Canadians have been marvelling at the size of Justin Trudeau's election victory - helping the Liberal Party turn a wipeout in 2011 into an overall majority - others have been focusing on the 43-year-old's athletic body and a large tattoo on his left arm. Could he, they ask, be the only major world leader with a tattoo? The tattooed image of a raven was getting a lot of attention on social media on election night. "OH that IS a Raven tattoo! This guy seems interesting," tweeted @meg_shuler. "Is Justin Trudeau the first Western leader to have a tattoo?" asked @aveek18 - one of a number of people who wondered this.
The design is borrowed from the Haida people indigenous to Canada's Pacific north-west, as the Liberal Party leader tweeted in 2012: "My tattoo is planet Earth inside a Haida raven. The globe I got when I was 23; the Robert Davidson raven for my 40th birthday." The tattoo was on full public view soon afterwards, when he fought a charity boxing match against political rival, Patrick Brazeau, and surprised many by winning.
There seems to be some logic behind the choice of a Haida symbol. The Trudeau family were made honorary members of the Haida tribe in 1976 during the second prime ministerial term of Trudeau's father, Pierre. Justin Trudeau went on to attend the University of British Columbia.
"What? What?What?" -- The 14th Doctor
It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:17 am
Zarathud: The sad thing is that Barak Obama is a very intelligent and articulate person, even when you disagree with his views it's clear that he's very thoughtful. I would have loved to see Obama in a real debate.
Me: Wait 12 years, when he runs for president. :-)
Canadian Prime Minister-designate Justin Trudeau has confirmed he will withdraw Canadian fighter jets from the air strikes against Islamic State (IS) in Iraq and Syria. He informed US President Barack Obama of his decision hours after leading his Liberal party to victory in the polls. As part of his election campaign, Mr Trudeau pledged to bring home the CF-18 fighter jets that were deployed to the region until March 2016. He has not yet given a timescale.
Justin Trudeau's Liberals swept to power in Monday election, ending nearly a decade of Conservative rule under Stephen Harper. Mr Trudeau, an ex-high-school teacher, is the eldest son of late Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.
In his first telephone conversation with the US president as Canada's prime minister-designate, Mr Trudeau informed Barack Obama that he would make good on his election promise to withdraw the fighter jets. "I committed that we would continue to engage in a responsible way that understands how important Canada has a role to play in the fight against ISIL (Islamic State), but he (Barack Obama) understands the commitments I've made around ending the combat mission," he told reporters in Ottawa on Tuesday. However, he said he would keep Canadian military trainers in northern Iraq, the AFP news agency reports. Mr Trudeau has also vowed to take in 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the year - a move previously rejected by his predecessor Stephen Harper, who took a much harder line on the issue. He also quipped that President Obama had "teased me about my lack of grey hair, but said I'd probably get some quite soon".
Why would I care, the entire Canadian air force couldn't get as much work done as a single Russian fighter anyway?
Canada's opposition Liberal Party would end the country's participation in the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter programme if it gains control of the government, party leader Justin Trudeau said on 20 September.
"A Liberal government will ... do what the [current Conservative government] ought to have said years ago: 'We will not buy the F-35 fighter jet'," he stated.
Instead of purchasing F-35s, Trudeau said he would launch an "open and transparent competition" for a more affordable replacement for Canada's Boeing (McDonnell Douglas) CF-18 Hornet combat aircraft.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "“I like taking the guns early...to go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.” -President Donald Trump. "...To guard, protect, and maintain his liberty, the freedman should have the ballot; that the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." - Frederick Douglass MYT
Canada's opposition Liberal Party would end the country's participation in the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter programme if it gains control of the government, party leader Justin Trudeau said on 20 September.
"A Liberal government will ... do what the [current Conservative government] ought to have said years ago: 'We will not buy the F-35 fighter jet'," he stated.
Instead of purchasing F-35s, Trudeau said he would launch an "open and transparent competition" for a more affordable replacement for Canada's Boeing (McDonnell Douglas) CF-18 Hornet combat aircraft.
Canada's opposition Liberal Party would end the country's participation in the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter programme if it gains control of the government, party leader Justin Trudeau said on 20 September.
"A Liberal government will ... do what the [current Conservative government] ought to have said years ago: 'We will not buy the F-35 fighter jet'," he stated.
Instead of purchasing F-35s, Trudeau said he would launch an "open and transparent competition" for a more affordable replacement for Canada's Boeing (McDonnell Douglas) CF-18 Hornet combat aircraft.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "“I like taking the guns early...to go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.” -President Donald Trump. "...To guard, protect, and maintain his liberty, the freedman should have the ballot; that the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." - Frederick Douglass MYT
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